QB Prospect Discussion: Anthony Gordon, Washington State

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QB Prospect Discussion: James Morgan, Florida International

Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:27 pm

mmmc_35 wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:04 am
Slowly looking at QBs.

Obviously I think Fromm is a guy to watch as teams may undervalue him. Steady good QB whom played in a pro style heavy run game. No amazing physical attributes, but good at everything. Smart pro style etc. As for mid to later round guys...

James Morgan, QB, Florida International

Kid was a 4 star recruit who transferred from Ball St, due to the Head Coach leaving. Physically he has NFL ability. Compact throwing motion like Tony Romo. 6'4" good build. Good arm and accuracy. Mobile with good pocket movement. Didnt put up gaudy numbers, and played lower level competition.



Mason Fine, QB, North Texas

He's a little shit listed at 5'11". He has a good arm. Might not have a cannon but he puts the ball in great spots. Mobile, and goes through reads. His size is the concern and he wont get selected until late.

Watched both these dudes play the East-West Shrine Bowl earlier today, I liked bits and pieces of what I saw from both of them. Mason Fine intrigues me but man, he measured in at 5096, which is shorter than both Drew Brees and Russell Wilson.

I'd maybe draft him on day 3 if Pace/Nagy love everything else about the kid. Has a live arm and I do like how he maneuvers in the pocket.
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Re: Mid Rd QB to keep an eye on

Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:51 am

I really like Morgan. I think he has a lot of potential. I also like Wabs mention of Tate. Neither will likely be anything but in the middle of the draft they could be gems.

From Walterfootball.
James Morgan, QB, Florida International

Morgan was the best quarterback at the East-West Shrine and really had a strong week of practice. Morgan has a live arm with good size, which he put that on display in each session. The 6-foot-4 230-pounder can spin the ball and has the ability to drive ball to all levels of the defense. Morgan's strong start to the week has a lot of teams showing serious interest in him. The Jets met with Morgan on Sunday night and then spoke with him for a long time after Monday's practice. Other teams that met with Morgan include the Las Vegas Raiders, San Francisco 49ers, New Orleans Saints, Green Bay Packers and Buffalo Bills. The Chargers and Colts also showed a lot of interest in Morgan.


Mason Fine
In contention for best pass of the week came in this session courtesy of North Texas quarterback Mason Fine, who lofted in a beautiful bomb to Indiana wide receiver Nick Westbrook. Fine demonstrated superb timing and precision on the throw to drop it in to Westbrook along the deep sideline and between two defenders.

Fine is an undersized quarterback, but he has enough arm strength with some athleticism. Given his gritty style of play, Fine battles and really competes to move the ball. Team sources have said Fine has the potential to be a Case Keenum-type backup quarterback in the NFL.
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Re: Mid Rd QB to keep an eye on

Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:56 pm

Bears apparently spent some time with Morgan at the East West Shrine game. There's a lot to like about him.

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2020/01/ ... -practice/
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Re: Mid Rd QB to keep an eye on

Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:37 pm

Love his release. Guy's arm is like a slingshot. Underthrows a bit, but it's not for a lack of strength. Love it.

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Re: Mid Rd QB to keep an eye on

Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:41 am

Better mustache than Trubisky and Gardner Minshew also. Just kidding. If the Bears bring in a legitimate vet to challenge Trubisky, they can look at a guy like Morgan for development. I wouldn't be opposed to them taking a second guy like Mason Fine, Arizona's Tate, or Tyler Huntley of Utah, all who should be available in lower rounds.
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Re: Mid Rd QB to keep an eye on

Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:29 am

I kind of think Morgan may go higher then expected.

It will be interesting what the QBs at the senior bowl look like.

North Team

Jordan Love - Utah State 1/2 Round

Anthony Gordon - Washington State 2/4 Round

Shea Patterson - Michigan 6+ Round


South Team

Justin Herbert - Oregon 1/2 Rounder

Jalen Hurts - Oklahoma 2/4 Round

Steven Montez - Colorado 4/7 Round
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Re: Mid Rd QB to keep an eye on

Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:09 pm

Ha!

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That sound you hear is Shea Patterson's draft stock hitting rock bottom.
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Re: Mid Rd QB to keep an eye on

Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:12 pm

@TonyPauline
Jordan Love/#UtahSt has made some incredible throws in one-on-one drills at #SeniorBowl practice. I mean like "holy crap that was good" throws.
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Re: QB Prospect Discussion: Anthony Gordon, Washington State

Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:27 pm

Gordon's measurements at the Senior Bowl:

Height: 6-2 1/4″
Weight: 199
Arm: 31 3/8″
Hand: 9 1/2″
Gordon is a physically gifted passer who improved a bit as the week progressed. Yet despite his strong-arm, Gordon displayed too much inconsistency and indecision. He was slow pulling the trigger at times which resulted in passes arriving to the intended target later than allowed. Unlike his former teammate Gardner Minshew, who was terrific during Senior Bowl week in 2019, Gordon leaves practice viewed as a developmental prospect that’s likely to fall out of the draft.
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Mitch Trubisky: 63.4% | 8554 yards | 48 TDs | 29 INTs | 6.7 YPA | 85.8 rating
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Re: QB Prospect Discussion: Anthony Gordon, Washington State

Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:31 pm

Starting to look into this kid a little bit more... love his throwing motion and release. Compact and lightning quick.
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First 41 starts in NFL (updated weekly):

Drew Brees: 61.2% | 8261 yards | 52 TDs | 37 INTs | 6.60 YPA | 82.2 rating

Mitch Trubisky: 63.4% | 8554 yards | 48 TDs | 29 INTs | 6.7 YPA | 85.8 rating
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Re: QB Prospect Discussion: Anthony Gordon, Washington State

Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:57 am

G08 wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:27 pm
Gordon's measurements at the Senior Bowl:

Height: 6-2 1/4″
Weight: 199
Arm: 31 3/8″
Hand: 9 1/2″
Gordon is a physically gifted passer who improved a bit as the week progressed. Yet despite his strong-arm, Gordon displayed too much inconsistency and indecision. He was slow pulling the trigger at times which resulted in passes arriving to the intended target later than allowed. Unlike his former teammate Gardner Minshew, who was terrific during Senior Bowl week in 2019, Gordon leaves practice viewed as a developmental prospect that’s likely to fall out of the draft.
He must have been really terrible in practices to fall out of the draft. I thought he would move up. Physically he has a full tool kit.
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Re: Mid Rd QB to keep an eye on

Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:47 am

wab wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:55 am
Draft related... I've been looking at Arizona's Khalil Tate. He was dynamic under Rich Rodriguez but got neutered when Sumlin took over. If you are looking for that Lamar Jackson type athlete, this is the dude.

Like Jackson, Tate has refused to take part in any WR drills. He says he's a QB and that's it.

He's down here this week at the College Gridiron Showcase in Fort Worth and I'm super interested to see what he does.
Kevin Sumlin is the opposite of a QB whisperer... he actively makes QBs worse... I felt bad for Tate when they got Sumlin... he made Kyler Murray look like a bad college QB...
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Re: QB Prospect Discussion: Anthony Gordon, Washington State

Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:46 pm

Thanks for the QB reports. Don't watch much college football, so I appreciate the input from those that do.

One thing to beware of--reading QBs are struggling in SB practices. May not mean much especially with anticipation throwers, who're "thrown off" tossing to new receivers. A strong-armed, see-it-and-throw QB like Cutler or this year's Herbert tend to shine compared to guys that are used to throwing softer and earlier on the route.

In passing drills, it's also better to see a full range of defenders so you can assess some of the difficult throws like when a ball is lofted over the second level and dropped beneath deep coverage. Those are even more revealing than deep outs. Fades are also tough throws that many pros don't throw well.
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Re: QB Prospect Discussion: Anthony Gordon, Washington State

Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:27 pm

mmmc_35 wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:57 am
G08 wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:27 pm
Gordon's measurements at the Senior Bowl:

Height: 6-2 1/4″
Weight: 199
Arm: 31 3/8″
Hand: 9 1/2″

He must have been really terrible in practices to fall out of the draft. I thought he would move up. Physically he has a full tool kit.
Whose analysis was that?
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Re: QB Prospect Discussion: Anthony Gordon, Washington State

Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:53 am

Above in G08 post sounds like a walter football

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