Re: QB Prospect Discussion: Jalen Hurts, Oklahoma

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Re: QB Prospect Discussion: Jalen Hurts, Oklahoma

Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:02 pm

My brother-in-law just told me that Jalen Hurts could fall to the 2nd round due to injury. Mahomes part 2? Would we be bold enough to take a QB in the 2nd round?
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Re: QB Prospect Discussion: Patrick Mahomes II, Texas Tech

Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:12 pm

Hurts isn't a first round pick regardless. I like him as a developmental guy, but not until at least the second half of the second round.
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Re: QB Prospect Discussion: Patrick Mahomes II, Texas Tech

Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:37 pm

I wouldn't take Hurts before the 4th round... he does not process quickly when it comes to going through progressions... he was handed the keys to the offense that had just produced back to back heisman winner/1st overall picks and did not perform at the same level... I love the kids mental toughness and leadership but physically he is a day three developmental QB... not sure how he would ever be thought of on the level of Mahomes as a prospect...
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Re: QB Prospect Discussion: Jalen Hurts, Oklahoma

Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:29 pm

What people have said around the board about Hurts so far:

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Jalen Hurts: Gives me Trubisky vibes in terms of his feet and eyes. Not a great arm, but good accuracy. Would be considered slow at the NFL level.
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I wanted a QB early for a lot reasons. No matter what we think of Mitch, at a minimum we need a backup QB with a higher ceiling than Daniel (with a much smaller cap hit) and at the same time we need the proverbial developmental QB.
In a perfect world we sign a veteran also to be the #2 and give Hurts a clipboard for a year. We then evaluate Mitch and see what we have. If Mitch shits the bed, Hurts could be the starter in 2021. Otherwise, our backup sees action every year, Hurts can prove himself then and either take the starting job or be trade bait like Jimmy G.
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I really like Hurts. I like how mobile and aware he is, and do see him as similar to Trubisky in the right offense.... but more field awareness, honestly. He can run for 75 yards like Mitch, Lamar, Patrick or Russell. I see him as a leader & winner in a Watson-lite kind of way. I know he's not the same passer as a couple of those guys. But he's not a bad passer... probably as good as Mitch, but in different ways. I just want a winner, and I strongly believe that's a ton of value for a 2nd round pick.
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Re: QB Prospect Discussion: Jalen Hurt, Oklahoma

Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:23 pm

Didn't impress in the post season all star games. I think he'll be around in the 4th or 5th. He has the heart and leadership. Accuracy and decision making were questioned.
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Re: Re: QB Prospect Discussion: Jalen Hurts, Oklahoma

Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:02 pm

I think he'll go day 2, and probably in the 2nd. I think a lot of teams are going to regret not taking him and the doubts about him are echos of Watson if you ask me.

I like the level he's played at. Bama is about as close to the NFL as you can get. He needed to go showcase himself at OK and he did - his production last fall was enormous, and if it wasn't for Burrow he could have a Heisman too. His intangibles dwarf many of these other potential QB picks.

Heck no he's not Mahomes. He's not the runner Jackson is but he definitely is as good as Mitch. I'd hope that he could be a Wilson "lite", or similar to Watson in terms of leadership and making plays with both his legs and arm. My bet would be that the pro game is already slower for him that it is for Mitch going into Year 4. That's what I meant by seeing the field - not necessarily progressions of a top passer at this point. But the calmness and natural confidence are key. You can't learn if you're panicking.
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Re: Re: QB Prospect Discussion: Jalen Hurts, Oklahoma

Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:27 pm

He is a winner. But everyone has him dropping. Heard on the radio today some teams may ask him to switch positions. It doesn't mean he can't still play QB. Hell, some teams wanted to move Urlacher to Safety. Something happened at the Senior Bowl where he dropped and dropped bad. I doubt it was his play since they have seen the kid for 4 years. I even heard he could slip to round 6 to becoming an FA.

Feel bad for the kid cuz he seems like a great person. He is definitely a great teammate.
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Re: Re: QB Prospect Discussion: Jalen Hurts, Oklahoma

Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:06 pm

Draft analysts were talking about him needing to change positions a year ago. The thought of him being a first rounder is largely just the product of ESPN hype, I think.

I don’t think he showed enough to go from a guy people thought needed to change positions to a relatively early draft pick.

That being said he has obviously improved and appears to be a hard worker, and is a good athlete, so I wouldn’t be heartbroken if they drafted him on day 3.
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Re: QB Prospect Discussion: Jalen Hurt, Oklahoma

Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:37 am

Grizzled wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:23 pm
Didn't impress in the post season all star games. I think he'll be around in the 4th or 5th. He has the heart and leadership. Accuracy and decision making were questioned.
I really like Hurt and Bryce Perkins in this draft. Yes, both have their deficiencies but I think both fit this offense very well and add a huge run dimension to the mix. Neither is terribly accurate or inaccurate and both have huge arms when needed. I don't think Trub's is going anywhere next year so neither will need to play next year and can get use to the offense. Might even be able to use them in a Tysome Hill way.

I agree with Grizzled above though. I wouldn't take either before the 4th unless we trade down in the second and pick up a late 3rd. Hurt didn't get a good write up at the Senior Bowl.

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