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Drafted Player Comps

Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:37 am

My inner meatball yearns for this foolish exercise .... which always is the best possible outcome for the player. No one ever compares a DT coming out to Tron LaFavor.

Cole Kmet: I've heard Jason Witten (Dallas/Las Vegas) and Kyle Rudolph (Minnesota).
Jaylon Johnson: William Jackson III (Cincinnati)

These are mine ....
Trevis Gipson: Willie Young (mine).... Hoge compares him to Matt Judson (Baltimore)
Kindle Valdor: R.W. McQuarters (mine)
Darnell Mooney: Travis Benjamin (Daniel Jeremiah's comp) and AZ_Bearfan's aformentioned DJax
Arlington Hambright: Jamal Jackson (formerly Eagles)
Lachavious Simmons: No clue


Some interesting comps around the league from other media sources:
Jordan Love: Jay Cutler
Isaiah Simmons: Brian Urlacher
D'Andre Swift: Shane Vereen and Gio Bernard
KJ Hamler: Tavon Austin
Joe Burrow: Sam Bradford
Denzel Mims: Josh Gordon
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Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:26 pm

Best comp I've seen where I went "hey, yeah!" was comparing Clyde Edwards-Helarie to Priest Holmes.

As for the Bears' picks, I give @wab credit for Kmet as Martellus Bennett. I think that's pretty near perfect. I also like @The Cooler King's comp of Trevis Gipson as Pernell McPhee.

Jaylon Johnson kind of reminds me of Janoris Jenkins. If he's close to that, I'll be thrilled.
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Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:41 pm

Joe Burrow = Sam Bradford? Yeesh! Probably not far off though. I'm sure Cinci hopes he has a better injury history than Bradford did.
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Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:31 am

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Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:41 pm
Joe Burrow = Sam Bradford? Yeesh! Probably not far off though. I'm sure Cinci hopes he has a better injury history than Bradford did.
A better injury history would go a long way for Bradford. Hopefully Burrow gets a better support and development system than Bradford had in StL as well. Bradfords career looked ready to take back off when he got reconnected with Shurmur in PHI/MIN (had been his OC as a rookie) , but injuries killed that.

But I guess from the arm profile it's a decent comp. Both Heisman winners too, but took much different paths there.
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Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:08 am

Bradford's career would look incredibly different had injuries not ruined him.
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Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:50 am

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Bradford's career would look incredibly different had injuries not ruined him.
Yes Bradford while still good lost the spark after the years of injuries.
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Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:04 pm

Cole Kmet: i think the Kyle Rudolph comp is accurate.

Jaylon Johnson: I think Trumaine Johnson

Trevis Gipson: Nick Perry

Kindle Valdor: Bryce Callahan

Darnell Mooney: John Brown
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Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:30 pm

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Darnell Mooney: John Brown
I like that one. He had a great year last year for the Bills.

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Mon May 04, 2020 12:03 pm

Cole Kmet feels like he could be a Dez Clark/Greg Olsen/Chris Cooley hybrid, but with his size and development you're ideally developing your Jason Witten.
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Mon May 04, 2020 1:28 pm

I like Kyle Ruolph as a comp for Cole Kmet. Solid if unspectacular.
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Tue May 05, 2020 10:48 am

Christ, I'd happily take the next Jason Witten.
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Tue May 05, 2020 11:27 am

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Tue May 05, 2020 10:48 am
Christ, I'd happily take the next Jason Witten.
That is a fairly standard comp:

https://notredame.rivals.com/news/one-f ... g-his-mark
Kmet, 6-6, 262 pounds, was forecast as a first- or second-round pick, even though some questions persisted about his foot speed — puzzling, given that this nimble giant ran a 4.7 in the 40-yard dash last February at the NFL Combine, becoming only the fifth tight end in the last 20 years to post a 4.7 time or better in the event while standing at least 6-6 and weighing at least 260 pounds.

Rob Gronkowski, Jason Witten and Kellen Davis are three notable members of this exclusive fraternity.
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/ ... llery.html
Reminiscent of Jason Witten, his ball skills are second-to-none for his position in this draft class. The White Sox picked him in the fifth-round of the 2017 MLB Draft. Projected: 1st or 2nd round
https://www.draftsharks.com/article/dyn ... -cole-kmet
At times, watching Kmet reminded me of Jason Witten. No, he's not lead-footed. Rather, he does well to plow through initial contact while grinding out additional yards. It's not flashy -- but it's effective. And it's something you like to see from a TE with plus size.
https://www.si.com/college/notredame/fo ... er-top-300
“Kmet is an easy player to like (both on and off the field) with outstanding ball skills and body control to dominate the catch point … Overall, Kmet is a dependable and physically impressive pass catcher who doesn’t have a deal-breaking weakness to his game, projecting as an NFL-ready “Y” target similar to Jason Witten when he was coming out of Tennessee.”
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Tue May 05, 2020 1:34 pm

UOK wrote:Kellen Davis
:puke:
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Drew Brees: 61.4% | 8551 yards | 55 TDs | 38 INTs | 6.67 YPA | 83.0

Mitch Trubisky: 63.1% | 8796 yards | 51 TDs | 29 INTs | 6.7 YPA | 86.3
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UOK wrote:Kellen Davis
:puke:
Hey man, Kellen Davis was a beast in Madden his first couple years.
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Tue May 05, 2020 2:08 pm

How about a pre-injury Tyler Eifert?

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Eifert: Notre Dame (Round 1, 21st Overall)

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Kmet: Notre Dame (Round 2, 50th Overall)



Combine:
Eifrert
6-6 | 250 | 4.68/40 | 22 reps | 119 Broad | 4.32 Shuttle | 6.92 3 Cone | 35" Vertical
Kmet (missed first two games with collar
6-6 | 262 | 4.70/40 | xx reps | 123 Broad | 4.40 Shuttle | 7.44 3 Cone | 37" Vertical

Eifert's last year at ND:
50 catches 685 yards | 4 TDs
Kmet*:
43 catches 515 yards | 6 TDs

* missed two games with a broken collarbone

Eifert nfl.com Draft Profile by Lance Zierlein:
Eifert is a fluid pass-catcher with vacuum hands and the hand/eye coordination to make tough catches and although he doesn't create a lot of space, he secures grabs in traffic, showing outstanding tracking and high-pointing ability. He is a soft spoken guy, but an animal on the field and a much better blocker than given credit, improving in leaps and bounds the past three years with excellent effort. projects as a starting NFL TE with excellent potential as both a receiver and blocker.

Kmet nfl.com Draft Profile by Lance Zierlen:
Long bodied, early entry Y tight end prospect who is a better pass threat than run blocker at this stage. Kmet should continue to fill out his frame, but his run blocking is too scattered and needs better focus and efficiency as a pro. He can be jammed and slowed by early contact into his route, but once he's striding, he becomes a legitimate second-level threat with sneaky separation speed and intriguing ball skills. He's still developing and could be a slow starter headed into the league, but he has the talent to eventually become a solid starter as a pass-catching in-line tight end with the ability to mismatch from the slot with his size.
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Tue May 05, 2020 4:27 pm

@wulfy I have Kmet with a 7.44 cone, where did you see 7.14? I'd be a lot happier with this pick if it was 7.44 :lol:
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First 42 starts:

Drew Brees: 61.4% | 8551 yards | 55 TDs | 38 INTs | 6.67 YPA | 83.0

Mitch Trubisky: 63.1% | 8796 yards | 51 TDs | 29 INTs | 6.7 YPA | 86.3
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Tue May 05, 2020 5:57 pm

Man I want to say Heath Miller - but I don't think he can block anywhere near that level for Cole

How about Austin Hooper or Jack Doyle?

Great thread Wulfy
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Tue May 05, 2020 10:41 pm

Kindle Vildor = Lardarius Webb
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First 42 starts:

Drew Brees: 61.4% | 8551 yards | 55 TDs | 38 INTs | 6.67 YPA | 83.0

Mitch Trubisky: 63.1% | 8796 yards | 51 TDs | 29 INTs | 6.7 YPA | 86.3
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Wed May 06, 2020 12:02 am

Here's a comparison of Kmet's Combine numbers compared to guys of relatively similar build and (except for one) relatively close agility numbers in either 3-cone or short shuttle times who lasted longer than four years in the NFL or are still on their rookie contract.

This is strictly physical measurables, nothing more than that. There are some names already mentioned as comps for Kmet.
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Wed May 06, 2020 8:29 am

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Tue May 05, 2020 4:27 pm
@wulfy I have Kmet with a 7.44 cone, where did you see 7.14? I'd be a lot happier with this pick if it was 7.44 :lol:
Just went back and double checked .... you're right, 7.44 ... blame the Old Man Eyes. :frustrated:

I'll edit the post.
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Wed May 06, 2020 11:31 am

wulfy wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 8:29 am
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Tue May 05, 2020 4:27 pm
@wulfy I have Kmet with a 7.44 cone, where did you see 7.14? I'd be a lot happier with this pick if it was 7.44 :lol:
Just went back and double checked .... you're right, 7.44 ... blame the Old Man Eyes. :frustrated:

I'll edit the post.
Damn you for getting my hopes up :lol:

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First 42 starts:

Drew Brees: 61.4% | 8551 yards | 55 TDs | 38 INTs | 6.67 YPA | 83.0

Mitch Trubisky: 63.1% | 8796 yards | 51 TDs | 29 INTs | 6.7 YPA | 86.3
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Wed May 06, 2020 11:52 am

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Tue May 05, 2020 10:41 pm
Kindle Vildor = Lardarius Webb
Kindle Vildor = Nandor the Relentless

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Chuck Pagano's defensive rankings in 6 years with Indy: 26th, 20th, 11th, 26th, 30th, and 30th.
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Wed May 06, 2020 12:35 pm

dplank wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 11:52 am
G08 wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 10:41 pm
Kindle Vildor = Lardarius Webb
Kindle Vildor = Nandor the Relentless

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One of my buddies is adamant that I start watching that show
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First 42 starts:

Drew Brees: 61.4% | 8551 yards | 55 TDs | 38 INTs | 6.67 YPA | 83.0

Mitch Trubisky: 63.1% | 8796 yards | 51 TDs | 29 INTs | 6.7 YPA | 86.3
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Wed May 06, 2020 1:32 pm

It's spectacular, binging it right now as I also had a buddy dogging me to watch it. The movie was absolutely hilarious as well.
Chuck Pagano's defensive rankings in 6 years with Indy: 26th, 20th, 11th, 26th, 30th, and 30th.

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