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IE wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 2:19 pm I've learned not to project UDFAs to the team but have been happy to see two guys I've liked stick to a certain extent. I still really like Vaughters as a great team and rotation guy, if not a starter. I also still have some hopes that Horsted will show he is active roster ready in camp this year. No material movement with TEs to me means they might like either Holtz or Horsted to stick. Horsted came into camp with a new body last year, and looked pretty good in limited film. He's got incredible hands, and when he came in 2 years ago the story was he needed to build himself up and become a serviceable blocker. So for him that time is here. And like I said I'm hopeful because of the lack of movement at TE. Personally, I think he can do everything Graham can do at this point, and is more athletic even. Jimmy often seems to be phoning it in our there (jogging). Play Horsted at U in the middle of the field and use Graham in the endzone maybe (which is all he wants to do anyway).

G08 wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 1:24 pm Late to the party, but I think Charles Snowden can be a perfect fit for the "Leonard Floyd" role in this defense.

Needs more sand in his ass, but as a UDFA I love the signing.

Middleguard wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 6:05 pm

G08 wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 1:24 pm Late to the party, but I think Charles Snowden can be a perfect fit for the "Leonard Floyd" role in this defense.

Needs more sand in his ass, but as a UDFA I love the signing.

What exactly was Floyd's role in the Bears' defense? Mr. "late to the QB?" Pose as an ineffective pass rusher and thereby bamboozle the opponent when you drop into coverage?

Do the Bears really need to refill whatever role that was?

crueltyabc wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:07 pm Sometimes fans get mad when the Bears are bad against the run but only want pass rushers

crueltyabc wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:07 pm Sometimes fans get mad when the Bears are bad against the run but only want pass rushers

wab wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 9:31 am

crueltyabc wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:07 pm Sometimes fans get mad when the Bears are bad against the run but only want pass rushers

Basically fans want the front seven to be some combination of 1984 and 2001 into perpetuity.

crueltyabc wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:07 pm Sometimes fans get mad when the Bears are bad against the run but only want pass rushers

RustyTrubisky wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 10:05 am it's a funny thing fans do where we get more excited about UDFA's then guys drafted in the 6th/7th rounds, but man Snowden's quickness really does jump out at you in the highlights. With a redshirt year in the NFL ala RRH, he really looks like he could be developed into valuable depth.

Middleguard wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 4:33 pm I attribute it to teams not caring as much about STs as they claim.

Z Bear wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 2:35 pm It is how we ended up with Robbie Gould and O'Donnell. The Bears had a ton of other guys in past years, especially at K, that made an NFL roster (Nick Folk, Elliot Fry, etc.). Pace just seemed to stop bringing them in, which was weird since neither the K or P position has been rock solid over the last few years.

IE wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 9:58 am I didn't realize Snowden had a broken ankle. Was wondering why he didn't get picked. He timed slow but looks really sudden/quick on tape. The sack where he got low and ducked around the LT was pretty interesting. Very athletic.

Given his lack of speed it is hard to compare him to Floyd.

Ex hoops player who has a couple of INTs on his resume - can he block? lol

Ok I looked - and actually he can. https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/ch ... -interview

I want to try him as a blocking TE.

wab wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:44 am

IE wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 9:58 am I didn't realize Snowden had a broken ankle. Was wondering why he didn't get picked. He timed slow but looks really sudden/quick on tape. The sack where he got low and ducked around the LT was pretty interesting. Very athletic.

Given his lack of speed it is hard to compare him to Floyd.

Ex hoops player who has a couple of INTs on his resume - can he block? lol

Ok I looked - and actually he can. https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/ch ... -interview

I want to try him as a blocking TE.

It's interesting that they list Snowden as a defensive lineman. I think he's going to get the RRH treatment.

wab wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:44 am

IE wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 9:58 am I didn't realize Snowden had a broken ankle. Was wondering why he didn't get picked. He timed slow but looks really sudden/quick on tape. The sack where he got low and ducked around the LT was pretty interesting. Very athletic.

Given his lack of speed it is hard to compare him to Floyd.

Ex hoops player who has a couple of INTs on his resume - can he block? lol

Ok I looked - and actually he can. https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/ch ... -interview

I want to try him as a blocking TE.

It's interesting that they list Snowden as a defensive lineman. I think he's going to get the RRH treatment.

mmmc_35 wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 3:09 pm

wab wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:44 am

It's interesting that they list Snowden as a defensive lineman. I think he's going to get the RRH treatment.

I like Snowden after watching him. He kind of reminds me of Donorace Armstrong. Slightly more athletic. I think could be a good de0th piece at the olb spot.

It's going to be very hard for him to gain 50 lbs. RRH had naturally larger shoulders, hips and thicker legs. Snowden is naturally a more slender build. They are both right around 6'6" but RRH had more room and a head start. Enough work and supplements maybe.