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Sometime in the nebulous future, when they hope you've forgotten about it, that's when.G08 wrote:This shit just makes me so unbelievably sick, and then the response from our so-called leaders make it even worse.
"Now is not the time to talk about gun policy". When the fuck is? We're averaging more than 1 of these per day!
dplank wrote:I agree with Rich here
RichH55 wrote: Dplank is correct
To me an 18 round magazine limit law makes sense. Registering gun owners makes sense. I don't own a gun. I hate guns. But I have no desire to prevent you from having one for the right reasons. Hunting and home defense. Nobody needs an AR-fucking-15. No one.G08 wrote:What purpose is there for a US Civilian to have a machine gun/automatic weapon?
Hunting?
Protecting one's home?
To me, it's ludicrous. There is a tremendous difference between a musket and an automatic weapon.
I appreciate that... there needs to be discussion in this country covering numerous topics, we all just need to find a way to do it without resorting to our comfortable place and hammering down our flag. There needs to be ebb and flow and a healthy respect of both positions (if possible... I personally have no healthy respect for those that deny climate change).UOK wrote:As long as things stay on the shooting, relevant gun policy type stuff, and don’t become too much more political than that, I’ll allow it. Just be civil.
mmmc_35 wrote:I know we don't get political on this board, however it seems we can have a normal conversation about this. I also own a few guns. One being an AR for work, several shotguns, and 3 pistols. The do understand the thoughts on certain limitations. I just don't know how implementation works. I think that's the, and will always be the sticking point. This guy sounds like he had an illegal weapon. Maybe he had the right ffl. Which then I don't know enough to comment.
no criminal record ... no financial issues ... nothing to flag him as a potential murderer ... but here is is on a Vegas trip with 23 weapons in his hotel room and he just goes off ... plus he had an arsenal at his homePolice have identified Stephen Paddock as the gunman who opened fire on concertgoers from a hotel room in Las Vegas, killing at least 59 people and leaving more than 500 wounded in the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.
Paddock, 64, began shooting from two windows on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino just after 10 p.m. local time Sunday evening, police said. A SWAT team found Paddock dead in his hotel room and believe he killed himself.
Police said Paddock had at least 23 firearms in his hotel suite. He had been staying in the room since Sept. 28. They said another 19 firearms, thousands of rounds of ammunition, explosives and electronics were found at his home at a retirement community in Mesquite, Nevada, about 75 miles northeast of Las Vegas.
FBI Special Agent in Charge Aaron Rouse said in a press conference Monday morning that the bureau had found "no connection with an international terrorist group." The motive was still under investigation.
Paddock had no criminal record beyond a routine citation several years ago that was handled in court.
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The 1:12 was until the SWAT team got there. "First reponders", under armed police officers got there prior to that and took fire, one killed (as reported on CNN).wab wrote:I don't subscribe to conspiracy theories in general...but there's a lot of weird things about this that don't add up. I mean, that's literally hundreds of pounds of weapons he'd have to carry up there. And it's not like you can just stash a belt fed M240 and a tripod in the bathroom when housekeeping comes.
The cycle rates of fire are different (slow like an AK with a slide fire stock and a drum and then fast like an AR with a binary trigger), yet happening at the same time. The sound of the rounds are different yet happening at the same time (an AK has kind of a thump, an AR has a crack).
And they are saying 1:12 passed between the first call to 911 and when the police breached the door. I mean how does this go on for an hour and 12 minutes???
I'm not an expert and I don't believe anything I hear on the news or social media. But the whole thing feels weird.
Here is a timeline“I’m going to form a strike team at Mandalay Bay and the boulevard,” one officer says. “I need five officers on me.”
There was a sniper at a Texas college many years ago who went on a killing spree, ultimately shooting at people from a belltower. Left a note or told a friend that if I die, have them look for a brain tumor. Sure enough he had a big-ass brain tumor that fucked him up, driving him to kill.mmmc_35 wrote:I have my own theory. I know brain tumors can alter reality. You can seem normal on the outside but inside be crazy.
Dude apparently sent $100,000 to her before doing this bullshit.southdakbearfan wrote:Sounds like they are waiting to talk with his GF, whom is overseas, if she ever sets foot in the country again.
I saw that, it's all seems a bit off, but of course killing people is a bit off to begin with. And the FBI says she is coming back.G08 wrote:Dude apparently sent $100,000 to her before doing this bullshit.southdakbearfan wrote:Sounds like they are waiting to talk with his GF, whom is overseas, if she ever sets foot in the country again.
I know what your talking about, especially if you see the scumbags at a lot of the gun shows (not everybody, just some). You see a lot of rebel (Confederate) flags, etc. You see guys wearing and selling shirts that say, "Kill'em all and let God sort'em out." It's tough for me to hear gun supporters defend this culture when I know that they know this dangerous unstable and extreme segment exists because they have seen them and spoken to them or have observed them. There is no mistaking that these dudes are up to no good and it will take very little for them to go off the rails.wab wrote:The other thing that's wrong with this world, the stock that this shithead used was $99 on Sunday morning. Now it's either out of stock everywhere or selling on the secondary market for 7 times that.
I also got an email from a place I buy stuff through with a picture of the 100 round SureFire mags he had saying "Get them while you still can!"
This is the shit that makes it hard to defend. This is what lumps regular folks like me into the bucket of dopes you see walking around in camo with rifles slung waving flags and shit at rallies on the news. (And there are a lot more of me than there are of them...we just kinda don't say anything because we don't want to get publicly shamed.)
