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Re: Weight Lifting and Conditioning Thread

Wed May 24, 2017 3:04 pm

I was a simple power lifter for years where I would pyramid up until failure. Back then I maxed out at 10 reps in a set...just hit 10 and added weight. I did that for just about everything.

I just hit 40. I work an unbelievably physical job. Last week I moved 7 tons of dirt and crushed stone with a shovel and wheelbarrow in 2 days. I also hand laid 2.5 tons of brick in another day. My power tamper was in the shop and I had to hand tamp about 130 square foot. I figured it at 750 arm raises with the 30lb hand tamper.

This week was a lot easier. I pounded out 120 SF of cement with a 20lb sledge on Monday then dumped 2 ton of stone into the area and spread it. Got to use the power tamper yesterday and laid out 110 SF of brick pavers (1 ton), and did a 1/2 day of bent over cuts with the chopsaw. I just got done spreading 4 yards of topsoil to (3.5 ton) with a wheelbarrow and shovel.

So strength isn't my issue. I only lift when I'm not working and this last winter I changed my gym tactics. I found my 1 rep max at each exercise. Then I started working at 60% of that max. By the end of the winter I had reached or increased my goal of 5 sets of 20 reps for each. Some things like legs and triceps I was able to reach quickly (within a month and a half), and then add weight. My right shoulder is crap anymore so bench was a struggle all winter and I finally went to a couple of weeks of power lifting again to get past a plateau. But my last week I was able to hit 4 sets of 20 with the last set only tickling 19.

I made some gains in my core training as well this off season. But I have a disk that gets ornery. The only thing I was able to do that didn't aggravate it was leg raises from an upright position bracing my forearms on the metal arms. I don't have one at home, so anyone have back friendly core exercises (low impact but hits the guy)?
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Re: Weight Lifting and Conditioning Thread

Wed May 24, 2017 3:51 pm

mmmc_35 wrote:So I recently became very into fasting. There is a ton of research into it and I have been doing it for 4 months.

Essentially you don't eat for 10-14 hours. This helps with insulin sensitivity, hormone production, guttural micro flora, inflammation, and overall good processing.

Several plans include a 10 hour eating window. I just eat essentially twice a day, and have lost body fat, and continued gaining muscle.
Is that the Renegade Diet?
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Re: Weight Lifting and Conditioning Thread

Wed May 24, 2017 4:03 pm

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mmmc_35 wrote:So I recently became very into fasting. There is a ton of research into it and I have been doing it for 4 months.

Essentially you don't eat for 10-14 hours. This helps with insulin sensitivity, hormone production, guttural micro flora, inflammation, and overall good processing.

Several plans include a 10 hour eating window. I just eat essentially twice a day, and have lost body fat, and continued gaining muscle.
Is that the Renegade Diet?
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Re: Weight Lifting and Conditioning Thread

Wed May 24, 2017 4:06 pm

Damn!! REading some of this shit makes it sound like you have to be some kind of scientist or some shit like that.

Hell, starting March 1, decided I need to lose about 12 lbs due to pants not wanting to snap. Just decided to cut out sweets, coffee (due to all the cream I used) get more serious about working out and started running again. In 2 months I have lost 14 lbs. Adding a little muscle by hitting the weights, no specific workout, just do a bunch of different stuff to keep it from getting boring. Not wanting to be an atlas or anything, but just wanting to be better fit at 54.
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Re: Weight Lifting and Conditioning Thread

Wed May 24, 2017 4:19 pm

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mmmc_35 wrote:So I recently became very into fasting. There is a ton of research into it and I have been doing it for 4 months.

Essentially you don't eat for 10-14 hours. This helps with insulin sensitivity, hormone production, guttural micro flora, inflammation, and overall good processing.

Several plans include a 10 hour eating window. I just eat essentially twice a day, and have lost body fat, and continued gaining muscle.
Is that the Renegade Diet?
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Wed May 24, 2017 8:37 pm

Atkins&Rebel wrote:I was a simple power lifter for years where I would pyramid up until failure. Back then I maxed out at 10 reps in a set...just hit 10 and added weight. I did that for just about everything.

I just hit 40. I work an unbelievably physical job. Last week I moved 7 tons of dirt and crushed stone with a shovel and wheelbarrow in 2 days. I also hand laid 2.5 tons of brick in another day. My power tamper was in the shop and I had to hand tamp about 130 square foot. I figured it at 750 arm raises with the 30lb hand tamper.

This week was a lot easier. I pounded out 120 SF of cement with a 20lb sledge on Monday then dumped 2 ton of stone into the area and spread it. Got to use the power tamper yesterday and laid out 110 SF of brick pavers (1 ton), and did a 1/2 day of bent over cuts with the chopsaw. I just got done spreading 4 yards of topsoil to (3.5 ton) with a wheelbarrow and shovel.

So strength isn't my issue. I only lift when I'm not working and this last winter I changed my gym tactics. I found my 1 rep max at each exercise. Then I started working at 60% of that max. By the end of the winter I had reached or increased my goal of 5 sets of 20 reps for each. Some things like legs and triceps I was able to reach quickly (within a month and a half), and then add weight. My right shoulder is crap anymore so bench was a struggle all winter and I finally went to a couple of weeks of power lifting again to get past a plateau. But my last week I was able to hit 4 sets of 20 with the last set only tickling 19.

I made some gains in my core training as well this off season. But I have a disk that gets ornery. The only thing I was able to do that didn't aggravate it was leg raises from an upright position bracing my forearms on the metal arms. I don't have one at home, so anyone have back friendly core exercises (low impact but hits the guy)?
not to derail this thread too much, but i was a stone mason for 10 years before a herniated disc nudged me out of it. i mostly just garden these days but still build a patio or two a year because i love working with natural stone. but the profession is hell on the body.
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Re: Weight Lifting and Conditioning Thread

Thu May 25, 2017 11:42 am

RustyTrubisky wrote:
Atkins&Rebel wrote:I was a simple power lifter for years where I would pyramid up until failure. Back then I maxed out at 10 reps in a set...just hit 10 and added weight. I did that for just about everything.

I just hit 40. I work an unbelievably physical job. Last week I moved 7 tons of dirt and crushed stone with a shovel and wheelbarrow in 2 days. I also hand laid 2.5 tons of brick in another day. My power tamper was in the shop and I had to hand tamp about 130 square foot. I figured it at 750 arm raises with the 30lb hand tamper.

This week was a lot easier. I pounded out 120 SF of cement with a 20lb sledge on Monday then dumped 2 ton of stone into the area and spread it. Got to use the power tamper yesterday and laid out 110 SF of brick pavers (1 ton), and did a 1/2 day of bent over cuts with the chopsaw. I just got done spreading 4 yards of topsoil to (3.5 ton) with a wheelbarrow and shovel.

So strength isn't my issue. I only lift when I'm not working and this last winter I changed my gym tactics. I found my 1 rep max at each exercise. Then I started working at 60% of that max. By the end of the winter I had reached or increased my goal of 5 sets of 20 reps for each. Some things like legs and triceps I was able to reach quickly (within a month and a half), and then add weight. My right shoulder is crap anymore so bench was a struggle all winter and I finally went to a couple of weeks of power lifting again to get past a plateau. But my last week I was able to hit 4 sets of 20 with the last set only tickling 19.

I made some gains in my core training as well this off season. But I have a disk that gets ornery. The only thing I was able to do that didn't aggravate it was leg raises from an upright position bracing my forearms on the metal arms. I don't have one at home, so anyone have back friendly core exercises (low impact but hits the guy)?
not to derail this thread too much, but i was a stone mason for 10 years before a herniated disc nudged me out of it. i mostly just garden these days but still build a patio or two a year because i love working with natural stone. but the profession is hell on the body.
Yeah, I've had different disks give me trouble over the years, but the one that is affecting me now has been the most persistent. Until I save up enough to finish my wood shop, I'm stuck doing the pavers and natural stone.

Like you, I enjoy the work, but if it does play havoc on me if I'm not very mindful of everything I lift and bend to reach for. Sucks because it take a lot of mental energy to be careful instead of just moving on instinct.

So if anyone does have some back friendly core exercises, I'm still interested
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Re: Weight Lifting and Conditioning Thread

Fri May 26, 2017 10:27 am

Core exercises for someone with back issues. I am not a Doctor or a physical therapist. However I do listen and read a ton of stuff from S&C coaches, and medical professionals. I have also had back and shoulder pain, so I have added these exercises, and stretches into my workouts, and daily routines.

Hanging - Its super simple and the easiest effective way to add spinal decompression to your day. Just hang from a bar, let you feet hang, and hold. Try to relax your body and importantly your back and shoulder muscles. You should begin to feel your shoulders actually separating as you hand, and your back vertebra relaxing. Tension is a no go here, just relax.

http://cassfitness.net/decompressing-yo ... ll-up-bar/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.markpieciak.com/2013/11/dead ... er-health/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Stretching - Cat, Cow, and Prayer Poses. These especially cat and prayer to me help a ton relax those muscles in the back. Google search them. Also don't forget to stretch your glutes and hamstrings.

Foam Rolling - its a simple form of massage. Don't forget to use on your glutes and hamstrings.
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NOW ON TO CORE EXERCISES
First flexation and rotation are a large cause of back pain. So the term Neutral Spine is important. Your core protects your spine, and transfers energy from your lower body to your upper body. Your lower back vertebra have only like 2% rotation per vertebra, however people for some reason do a ton of rotation when it comes to core exercises. I blame Rocky sit ups. So in every core exercise i like to really focus on keeping my spine in line. To do this really flexing your core during the exercise keeps it in place.

Planks - Obviously a well known exercise. However I recommend Pavel's method. It should be intense, and quick. When in position you try and bend the earth with your elbows and feet, keeping every muscle in your body as contracted as possible.

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TRX Pike - It starts as a plank with TRX straps. Keeping your spine straight lift your ass in the air. Simple but not easy. At the bottom of the movement, don't bounce or your lower lumbar will feel it.

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TRX Anti Rotation Press - It looks easy but it is not. Coach Dos called this the best anti rotation exercise he knew of. It looks easy but the more you become horizontal the harder it is, and its not easy even almost vertical.

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Windmill - One of my favorite exercises. It looks like it would hurt but it doesn't. In the movement your getting oblique strengthening, stability in your shoulders (I love the shoulder health results I have had), range of motion, and you get a stretch in your hams. Start light, I started with 30 lbs, and now hit the 100s. I use dumbells because I don't have kettle bells.

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Turkish Get Up - The best single exercise you will find.

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I also love Med ball Slams, Figure 8 to holds, you have to watch your spine here though. Dont forget Squats (overhead, front) and deadlifts.
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Re: Weight Lifting and Conditioning Thread

Fri May 26, 2017 10:50 am

mmmc_35 wrote:Core exercises for someone with back issues. I am not a Doctor or a physical therapist. However I do listen and read a ton of stuff from S&C coaches, and medical professionals. I have also had back and shoulder pain, so I have added these exercises, and stretches into my workouts, and daily routines.

Hanging - Its super simple and the easiest effective way to add spinal decompression to your day. Just hang from a bar, let you feet hang, and hold. Try to relax your body and importantly your back and shoulder muscles. You should begin to feel your shoulders actually separating as you hand, and your back vertebra relaxing. Tension is a no go here, just relax.

http://cassfitness.net/decompressing-yo ... ll-up-bar/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.markpieciak.com/2013/11/dead ... er-health/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Stretching - Cat, Cow, and Prayer Poses. These especially cat and prayer to me help a ton relax those muscles in the back. Google search them. Also don't forget to stretch your glutes and hamstrings.

Foam Rolling - its a simple form of massage. Don't forget to use on your glutes and hamstrings.
" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

NOW ON TO CORE EXERCISES
First flexation and rotation are a large cause of back pain. So the term Neutral Spine is important. Your core protects your spine, and transfers energy from your lower body to your upper body. Your lower back vertebra have only like 2% rotation per vertebra, however people for some reason do a ton of rotation when it comes to core exercises. I blame Rocky sit ups. So in every core exercise i like to really focus on keeping my spine in line. To do this really flexing your core during the exercise keeps it in place.

Planks - Obviously a well known exercise. However I recommend Pavel's method. It should be intense, and quick. When in position you try and bend the earth with your elbows and feet, keeping every muscle in your body as contracted as possible.

" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

TRX Pike - It starts as a plank with TRX straps. Keeping your spine straight lift your ass in the air. Simple but not easy. At the bottom of the movement, don't bounce or your lower lumbar will feel it.

" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

TRX Anti Rotation Press - It looks easy but it is not. Coach Dos called this the best anti rotation exercise he knew of. It looks easy but the more you become horizontal the harder it is, and its not easy even almost vertical.

" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Windmill - One of my favorite exercises. It looks like it would hurt but it doesn't. In the movement your getting oblique strengthening, stability in your shoulders (I love the shoulder health results I have had), range of motion, and you get a stretch in your hams. Start light, I started with 30 lbs, and now hit the 100s. I use dumbells because I don't have kettle bells.

" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Turkish Get Up - The best single exercise you will find.

" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I also love Med ball Slams, Figure 8 to holds, you have to watch your spine here though. Dont forget Squats (overhead, front) and deadlifts.
I'll give it a go! Hopefully no :stretcher:
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Re: Weight Lifting and Conditioning Thread

Fri May 26, 2017 11:13 am

So I decided to post this because I am losing a bit of motivation for me, and maybe a poster or two. I am hoping it keeps me on track to reach my goals. Like many people I have to have goals, to produce motivation. I have gone long periods without goals, and it leads me to skip the gym or not get after it the way i want. I view exercise just as much a physical endeavor, but mental. It becomes meditative to me, and I can physically and mentally see how much better I am after. Less frustrated, and that type of shit. So anyway.

A few months ago I was reading a forum talking about weighing 200 lbs with a 1000 lbs combined in the three power lifts (Bench, Deadlift, Back Squat). In competition a 1000 lbs isn't a lot. I read it an thought, fuck I can do that and I weight 220lbs. So I came up with a set of goals for my 34th birthday. To be stronger, and have similar endurance to the 24 year old me. So i set my goals, a 1200 lbs combined power lift, a 120 lb Turkish get up, and a 14:22 two mile run. My best 2 mile run in the Army was 12:30, and I commonly ran 14 min with ease. However I specifically remember running a 14:22 in Iraq, and that seemed attainable so that is my bench mark. I also wanted to weigh 200lbs like I did at 24.

I have two months to go. The last month, kind of derailed me, with family and work issues. Gym time, and motivation have waned. So this week I tested my self, to see how I am doing. I am pretty close to everything, closer then I thought. 475lb deadlift, 335 back squat, 315 bench press for 1125lbs total. I could have probably gotten slightly more but it wasn't an all out effort. I have done the 120lbs TGU. I ran a 15:10 two mile yesterday (this is going to be the hardest goal). I was 211 lbs today. So I am right at cusp of all my goals, and for some reason, don't care that much. Its gotten hard. The work to improve has reached that difficult point. Time is not freely available.

So if by the end of July I can't complete my goals, I will post for a year with a signature of anyone's choice. That will be part of my motivation.
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Fri May 26, 2017 1:22 pm

mmm-35, I have been big on goal setting this spring. I had the weight loss goal that I have met but now want to lose a little more.

4 yrs ago I was running 3.2 miles with ease and some days longer. Well that winter I quit and I have not had much luck getting back to that distance. This year I set a goal of running/jogging in a 5k. last sunday I had a pace of 8:24 in a 2.97 mile run. Thurs it was much slower, but I ran/jogged at friggin 6 a.m.. Way too early for me.

I got to thinking, the 5k I wanted to run initially is in a week. I think I will wait til later in the summer so I have the motivation to keep jogging. I feel great after a good jog.

Just like working out (tabata, HIIT or weights), I feel great when doing it. When I miss I feel a little lousy.

I think I am in better shape now at 54 than I was at 30. My body is feeling it at times, doesn't help that I h aven't been sleeping well lately.

I want to keep this lifestyle going until I die, just have to quit being tempted by that bitch (that is cakes, cookies, ice cream and chocolate).
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Re: Weight Lifting and Conditioning Thread

Fri May 26, 2017 5:47 pm

I just read where Cody Kessler held fast to a strict diet to reach his goals:
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» turkey and provolone sandwich (no toppings or condiments)
» fifteen (15) baby carrots
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As far as running, instead of dialing in on just running 2 miles, change it up a bit by running some sprints in the yard and change up the distances as available...2x 20 yards, 2x 20 and back, 2x 40, 2x 40 and back, 2x 20 and back and 40 and back (basically the old basketball suicide sprints of run to the mid line and back then go full court then combo and do half and full)...then go for a jog at least a mile...more if you feel good with wind and cramps.

Work in a full 2 mile run 1x a week to see how your progressing. But with any plateau, you have to find a way to bust through it.
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Re: Weight Lifting and Conditioning Thread

Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:21 pm

A couple of years ago, I got into the StrongLifts / 5x5 program, and I bought a power rack and set of weights. I've been doing various programs since, but StrongLifts has been the most successful for me. I've recently re-dedicated myself to the program, and I bought the app for my smartphone (highly recommended - it's a really good app!)

My biggest obstacle has been diet - I tend not to eat enough to advance beyond a certain point and I just plateau, lose interest, and then move on to something else. This time around, I'm focusing a lot more on protein intake and a good protein / carb / fat ratio (aiming for 35% / 30% / 35%).

Beyond that, I've found that once I start lifting a certain weight, it starts to interfere with my speed, mobility, and agility, which is a bit of a problem because I play a lot of sports (mostly indoor soccer and volleyball), and my best assets are my quickness and speed.

I'd say my goal right now is to stick with the SL program and my diet for at least three months and then re-evaluate where I'm at. So far, I'm feeling really good about where I'm at, but the weight is going to get heavy for me soon and that will be the real test of my mettle and resolve.
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Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:50 am

I ended up attending a seminar and lecture completely by accident that focuses on adjusting fitness regime as one ages ... because as much as I would like to think it, I am no longer in my 20's and what I did while younger doesn't work with an older metabolism ... it was a very well done presentation and provided some good info and I have changed some things over the past year and feel much better overall

plus, when I went over the stuff with my doctor during my last follow-up, she gave a thumbs up to it

so this was a very useful and informative presentation that wasn't well publicized for some reason ... only way I knew about it was actually taking a flyer from someone in the mall ... ended up being a happy accident ... and I met a nice group I can actually work with
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Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:28 am

Been hitting the bike lately. I have been going on rides anywhere from 15-20 miles. Just really pushing to get to a certain weight and hope to maintain this weight. Vacation was a killer. Very little to no working out (did walk quite a bit), ate like shit and drank more alcohol than usual. Trying to get back in the swing after an 8 day sabbatical.
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Re: Weight Lifting and Conditioning Thread

Mon Aug 07, 2017 2:18 am

So previously I posted goals for myself by the age of 34.
I plan on completing the test next week. Granted not the end of July but 2 weddings a bachelor party and a birthday have left me detoxing during the work week, for thee last 3 weeks.

However I have been exercising fairly regularly and doing well. I believe I have all the lifts without issue. I have run the 2 miles in the time. It wasn't easy and not a guarantee. I changed a few things up in the cardio department that seemed to help. So 2 days a week I set a 1/4 mile time of 90 sec. It's a "slow" race time but a 6 min mile pace. After every lap a walk a min and do this until I complete 2 miles. Which gets me fairly tired. The first 4 min mile guy did something similar. The other two I use either the stair climber or elliptical for length of time under light to moderate exertion.

The weight is 10lbs off. Beer tons of beer but I am not worried as i have only one day off in the next 12 days. So I am feeling fairly confident.
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Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:15 am

Australian bodybuilder with rare disorder dies eating high-protein diet
(CNN) - Meegan Hefford, a 25-year-old bodybuilder, was found unconscious on June 19 in her Mandurah, Western Australia, apartment, according to CNN affiliate Australia News 7.

Days later, Hefford was pronounced dead. Only after her death did her family learn that Hefford, the mother of a 7-year-old girl and a 5-year-old boy, had a rare genetic disorder that prevented her body from properly metabolizing her high-protein diet.

Urea cycle disorder, which causes a deficiency of one enzyme in the urea cycle, stops the body from breaking down protein, according to the nonprofit National Urea Cycle Disorders Foundation.

Normally, the body can remove nitrogen, a waste product of protein metabolism, from the blood. However, a urea cycle disorder would prohibit this.

Therefore, nitrogen, in the form of toxic ammonia, would accumulate in the blood and eventually reach the brain, where it can cause irreversible damage, coma and death.

"The enzyme deficiency can be mild enough so that the person is able to detoxify ammonia adequately -- until there's a trigger," said Cynthia Le Mons, executive director of the foundation. The trigger could be a viral illness, stress or a high-protein diet, she added.

"There was just no way of knowing she had it because they don't routinely test for it," said Michelle White, Hefford's mother and a resident of Perth. "She started to feel unwell, and she collapsed."

kind of a scary scenario ... how many people even give a second thought to protein shakes, protein bars and other over the counter non-medicinal supplements?
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Re: Weight Lifting and Conditioning Thread

Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:19 pm

My boys have something similar with fat. The common newborn screening catches a bunch of genetic diseases. Those of use who are slightly elder didn't get that screening. But most are fairly rare.

Side note, 14:12 2 mile and 1215lbs. Fairly proud.
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Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:06 am

I have recently found out I cannot job in memory foam shoes. I get terrible shin and calf pain. The foot slightly moving around is not making it for me. Back to a rigid bottom for me.
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Re: Weight Lifting and Conditioning Thread

Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:30 am

So deadlifts have pretty much changed my physique. I've been lifting fairly consistently since my freshman year of college and made solid gains but stalled out after 5 years or so. Since I tacked on deadlifts (as well as HIIT) to my weekly routine, my squats/bench/shoulder press/curls/and lat pull-downs have exploded.

If it's not a part of your routine or you feel like you've hit a wall... add them.
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Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:04 pm

G08 listen to this guy about trap bar deadlift. I listen to a lot of S&C coaches. I found this fasinating.

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Re: Weight Lifting and Conditioning Thread

Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:23 pm

G08 wrote:So deadlifts have pretty much changed my physique. I've been lifting fairly consistently since my freshman year of college and made solid gains but stalled out after 5 years or so. Since I tacked on deadlifts (as well as HIIT) to my weekly routine, my squats/bench/shoulder press/curls/and lat pull-downs have exploded.

If it's not a part of your routine or you feel like you've hit a wall... add them.
I definitely noticed my rows and shoulder press increasing since I've started the doing it with StrongLifts. Like you, I never did deadlifts during high school or college.

Another lift I've been doing recently as an accessory is the hip thrust: https://bretcontreras.com/how-to-hip-thrust/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; I've read that it's supposed to be great for developing glutes, hams, and quads, which should help my squat and deadlift even further.

I recently changed to a 3x5 because it was taking about 90 minutes to complete a workout. I just don't have that much time, and I feel like I have more confidence lifting only three sets - it's a lot easier to tell yourself "shit, that was heavy. Barely made it through - only 2 more sets to go" than "christ, I'll never make it through four more sets of that."

This is my progress as of yesterday:
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Re: Weight Lifting and Conditioning Thread

Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:01 am

Thought this recent article was quite interesting:

https://bayesianbodybuilding.com/individualized-program-design/
"I wouldn't take him for a conditional 7th. His next contract will pay him more than he could possibly contribute.".

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Re: Weight Lifting and Conditioning Thread

Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:05 am

I've got my deadlifts at 335 lbs 3 x 5 (or more but the majority of the time I burn out around 5 reps)

Bench, I do dumbells 85 lbs 3 x 8

Squats I'm currently at 275 3 x 8 (my form is fucked up right now, I'm trying to perfect the low bar squat and it's kind of fucking with my center of gravity)
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Re: Weight Lifting and Conditioning Thread

Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:57 am

G08 wrote:I've got my deadlifts at 335 lbs 3 x 5 (or more but the majority of the time I burn out around 5 reps)

Bench, I do dumbells 85 lbs 3 x 8

Squats I'm currently at 275 3 x 8 (my form is fucked up right now, I'm trying to perfect the low bar squat and it's kind of fucking with my center of gravity)
I haven't hit failure yet on my deadlifts, but I don't think it's far off. I feel like I'm cheating a little using straps, but I just couldn't keep the grip once the weight got too heavy. I felt as if I could lift the weight, but it seemed dangerous having the weight slipping out of my hands.

I've always kind of struggled with upper body strength - I put all of my emphasis on lower body when I was playing football because that was pretty much the only way I was going to be able to play as a 5'9" 165-lb lineman (thankfully I went to a small school), so my chest is definitely underdeveloped comparatively.

I do high bar squats. I learned about low bar squats when I was starting to do around 260 lbs (5x5) and I had a really tough time getting the form down at that weight. I felt okay at the bottom of the squat, but it was so awkward and comfortable at the top. I feel okay doing high bar squats though because low bar squat more mimics the deadlifts form, so it's kind of a duplication of the same muscle groups. High bar targets the quads more, and I don't get quad work from anywhere else. I might do low bar at some point, but I'm going to have to drop a good amount of weight to get the form down first.
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Re: Weight Lifting and Conditioning Thread

Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:24 pm

malk wrote:Thought this recent article was quite interesting:

https://bayesianbodybuilding.com/individualized-program-design/
Really interesting article, thanks for sharing. It's really incredible how complicated we are, as individuals. I was talking to a friend of mine who is doing the same program as I am and he's hardly cracked 200 lbs squatting, but is deadlifting 400. Another person who was doing the same program could bench like 200 lbs but only squat around 225. Our genetics alone make things wildly variable, and then when you throw in all the other factors it's no surprise results vary so widely from person to person.
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Re: Weight Lifting and Conditioning Thread

Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:39 am

I thought I would bump this with the addition of a new S&C coach and a new year.

So nutritionally I have become very happy with fasting, and a primary meat diet. I won't go full carnivore diet though some of the concepts are intriguing. I like beer and pizza too much. However lately, especially on work days, meat with light carbs and veggies are my go to. This is after fasting for 12-14 hours. I tell you what I feel really good when I adhere to it.

At the gym my work outs are simple. 15 minutes cardio, alternating daily intensity. 30 minutes lifting. Multi joint strength exercise less then 5 Reps combined with joint strengthening. Then a Tabata work capacity finisher.

I am thinking of adding a plyo in between sets like the new S&C coach does.
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Re: Weight Lifting and Conditioning Thread

Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:41 am

I started the Brad Pitt Fight Club workout a year ago. I muscle per day, always super set with legs, abs, or push-ups. Lighter weights and reps around 12-25.

I also do the Johnson and Johnson 7 minute workout every morning right out of bed..and after dinner at night. Gym around 5pm every day.

Not bragging, but I'm 37 and in the best shape of my life. Ripped 6 pack and feeling pretty good.
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Re: Weight Lifting and Conditioning Thread

Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:35 am

I do bench, preacher curl and deadlifts during my workout. I don't have a chest day per se. Then I also do a lot of treadmill with a brisk walk. No running. 3.8 or 3.6 depending on what I'm doing. Its one of the ways that I catch up on my DVR and podcasts.

Normally I focus on 4 x 5s when lifting. For bench I do a 4 x 5 plus an AMRAP.

There is a device I wear called a Slingshot for 2 out of every 3 bench workouts per week and it has really helped my benchpressing in terms of form and also strength. I highly recommend that you have a spotter (you should have a spotter no matter what anyway) when wearing this. In fact I would say you must have a spotter when wearing this. It allows you to bench press more at the same time, but more importantly it forces good form.
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Re: Weight Lifting and Conditioning Thread

Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:28 pm

]Mark Bell the creator of the sling shot, uses it as a overload training device. It also helps with form as it keeps your shoulder in right and elbows on plane.

I have never used it but know people who have and like it.

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