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Re: Bears hire Chuck Pagano to be Defensive Coordinator

Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:45 am

Atkins&Rebel wrote:
cblaz11 wrote:
Umbali wrote:Well, he should have to learn our terminology etc..why teach the whole D when you can just make the coach learn? :P

Hope it works out
Disagree

He’s the DC, trust him to do his thing. Asking the coach to come in and “fit in” is what got Mel Tucker into trouble. He was running half of his D and half of Lovies. Nobody was on the same page.
Good coordinators don't come into the #1 defense and change a bunch of shit just to stroke their ego. Chuck is considered a players' coach, so I don't expect him to muck up too much. But almost every defense will change their calls from year to year (and game to game for divisional opponents), or teams will know what the defense is adjusting to and where the blitz is coming from. The oly calls that stay the same are the Payton Manning "Omaha" dummy calls.
I agree in the fact that you should identify what players had success doing what and you try to keep them in similar roles. That said, you get into trouble if you tell a coach to run someone else’s defense.

Fangio was great at disguising his coverages just enough to give the front 4 an extra second to get to the QB. He was also great at very rarely allowing plays over the top. They kept everything in front of them. When you have a more aggressive defense, that opens you up to big plays. In today’s NFL, I want Vics style over a blitz heavy D. I’m hoping Pagano agrees.

Rely on 4 man pass rush with occasional blitz

Preach keeping everything in front

Preach all 11 guys swarming to the ball

Flip coverages to ensure QB is always unsure
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Re: Bears hire Chuck Pagano to be Defensive Coordinator

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cblaz11 wrote:
Atkins&Rebel wrote:
cblaz11 wrote:
Umbali wrote:Well, he should have to learn our terminology etc..why teach the whole D when you can just make the coach learn? :P

Hope it works out
Disagree

He’s the DC, trust him to do his thing. Asking the coach to come in and “fit in” is what got Mel Tucker into trouble. He was running half of his D and half of Lovies. Nobody was on the same page.
Good coordinators don't come into the #1 defense and change a bunch of shit just to stroke their ego. Chuck is considered a players' coach, so I don't expect him to muck up too much. But almost every defense will change their calls from year to year (and game to game for divisional opponents), or teams will know what the defense is adjusting to and where the blitz is coming from. The oly calls that stay the same are the Payton Manning "Omaha" dummy calls.
I agree in the fact that you should identify what players had success doing and you try to keep them in similar roles. That said, you get into trouble if you tell a coach to run someone else’s defense.

Fangio was great at disguising his coverages just enough to give the front 4 an extra second to get to the QB. He was also great at very rarely allowing plays over the top. They kept everything in front of them. When you have a more aggressive defense, that opens you up to big plays. In today’s NFL, I want Vics style over a blitz heavy D. I’m hoping Pagano agrees.

Rely on 4 man pass rush with occasional blitz

Preach keeping everything in front

Preach all 11 guys swarming to the ball

Flip coverages to ensure QB is always unsure
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Re: Bears hire Chuck Pagano to be Defensive Coordinator

Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:58 am

cblaz11 wrote:
Umbali wrote:Well, he should have to learn our terminology etc..why teach the whole D when you can just make the coach learn? :P

Hope it works out
Disagree

He’s the DC, trust him to do his thing. Asking the coach to come in and “fit in” is what got Mel Tucker into trouble. He was running half of his D and half of Lovies. Nobody was on the same page.
I was being facetious....my little :P didnt do its job i guess lol
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Re: Bears hire Chuck Pagano to be Defensive Coordinator

Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:01 am

He's only been a defensive coordinator for one year, how can you guys be so confident he's a defensive genius ? I just don't get it.
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Re: Bears hire Chuck Pagano to be Defensive Coordinator

Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:02 am

VA_Mountain_Bear wrote: My biggest concern with this hire though is Pagano's ambitions or loyalties. One great way to fuck up Nagy's tenure is to waste the defensive talent by having our DC leave every year to become an HC, and never let the D side grow in system continuity, and constantly have those players in emotional flux. It would be the reverse of the OC carousel that characterized Lovie's years. I've a bad feeling Pagano is just using us as a stepping stone and next year we are right back in this spot.
These are my thoughts exactly. On the one hand I love the hire. Great guy, players love him, aggressive and successful as DC - everything we want. The perfect choice.

On the other hand, this feels like a one year rental. He actually had a lot of success as the Colts HC and once he proves what he can do with talent on his side of the ball he'll probably be a top candidate for the 7 or 8 head coaching positions that open up in 2020.
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Bears hire Chuck Pagano to be Defensive Coordinator

Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:57 am

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VA_Mountain_Bear wrote: My biggest concern with this hire though is Pagano's ambitions or loyalties. One great way to fuck up Nagy's tenure is to waste the defensive talent by having our DC leave every year to become an HC, and never let the D side grow in system continuity, and constantly have those players in emotional flux. It would be the reverse of the OC carousel that characterized Lovie's years. I've a bad feeling Pagano is just using us as a stepping stone and next year we are right back in this spot.
These are my thoughts exactly. On the one hand I love the hire. Great guy, players love him, aggressive and successful as DC - everything we want. The perfect choice.

On the other hand, this feels like a one year rental. He actually had a lot of success as the Colts HC and once he proves what he can do with talent on his side of the ball he'll probably be a top candidate for the 7 or 8 head coaching positions that open up in 2020.
I think that ship has sailed for Pagano. Especially the way the league is trending. I doubt he gets a HC gig next year.


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Bears hire Chuck Pagano to be Defensive Coordinator

Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:00 pm

I like the hire. I wanted an experienced coach that could run that side of the ball with little to no direction from Nagy. It also sounds like a better personality fit for Nagy than Fangio. They’re both enthusiastic, mad man types. Pagano just needs to remember his position.


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Re: Bears hire Chuck Pagano to be Defensive Coordinator

Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:31 pm

Rakshir wrote:He's only been a defensive coordinator for one year, how can you guys be so confident he's a defensive genius ? I just don't get it.
Most defensive coordinator hires have only been positional coaches. This guy had massive success in the turnaround of a defense in Baltimore as a DC. Which is what netted him his Indy job. Has 6 years of HC'ing experience, has won in the post-season as a HC and is highly regarded around the league.

His HC'ing experience also means that he'll be comfortable running that entire side of the ball by himself. His personality also meshes nicely with Nagy.

This is just about as good of a DC hire as you can ask for coming off of Fangio. A guy like Vic being on the open market was rare and we got very, very lucky with that. This is a proven guy who dominated his last DC job. You simply can't ask for more than that.
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Re: Bears hire Chuck Pagano to be Defensive Coordinator

Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:03 pm

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Rakshir wrote:He's only been a defensive coordinator for one year, how can you guys be so confident he's a defensive genius ? I just don't get it.
Most defensive coordinator hires have only been positional coaches. This guy had massive success in the turnaround of a defense in Baltimore as a DC. Which is what netted him his Indy job. Has 6 years of HC'ing experience, has won in the post-season as a HC and is highly regarded around the league.

His HC'ing experience also means that he'll be comfortable running that entire side of the ball by himself. His personality also meshes nicely with Nagy.

This is just about as good of a DC hire as you can ask for coming off of Fangio. A guy like Vic being on the open market was rare and we got very, very lucky with that. This is a proven guy who dominated his last DC job. You simply can't ask for more than that.
I agree with you here. And we are going from Fangio who clearly, desperately wanted the head guy promotion, to a guy who had already gotten that job and didn't do so well at it and thus, isn't likely to get promotion consideration going forward. Kind of the best of all worlds for us.
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Re: Bears hire Chuck Pagano to be Defensive Coordinator

Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:07 pm

He did fine when Luck was healthy.

I like the hire. A lot of experience to help Nagy on his way to Canton (My homer moment of the year)
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Re: Bears hire Chuck Pagano to be Defensive Coordinator

Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:11 pm

cblaz11 wrote:
Atkins&Rebel wrote:
cblaz11 wrote:
Umbali wrote:Well, he should have to learn our terminology etc..why teach the whole D when you can just make the coach learn? :P

Hope it works out
Disagree

He’s the DC, trust him to do his thing. Asking the coach to come in and “fit in” is what got Mel Tucker into trouble. He was running half of his D and half of Lovies. Nobody was on the same page.
Good coordinators don't come into the #1 defense and change a bunch of shit just to stroke their ego. Chuck is considered a players' coach, so I don't expect him to muck up too much. But almost every defense will change their calls from year to year (and game to game for divisional opponents), or teams will know what the defense is adjusting to and where the blitz is coming from. The oly calls that stay the same are the Payton Manning "Omaha" dummy calls.
I agree in the fact that you should identify what players had success doing what and you try to keep them in similar roles. That said, you get into trouble if you tell a coach to run someone else’s defense.

Fangio was great at disguising his coverages just enough to give the front 4 an extra second to get to the QB. He was also great at very rarely allowing plays over the top. They kept everything in front of them. When you have a more aggressive defense, that opens you up to big plays. In today’s NFL, I want Vics style over a blitz heavy D. I’m hoping Pagano agrees.

Rely on 4 man pass rush with occasional blitz

Preach keeping everything in front

Preach all 11 guys swarming to the ball

Flip coverages to ensure QB is always unsure
When you bring in a new coordinator, the worst thing you could do is to Mel Tucker him into trying to run a scheme that isn't him.

Instead, you have him study closely what we did last year with the pieces he has and learn how to integrate what we did and what our current cast's strengths into Pagano's concepts. Like Nagy's blocking scheme adjustment to Jordan Howard, you have to adapt to what you have. But at the same time, Pagano has experiences, things he understands well and concepts he likes to put into play that work with his style. It needs to be a blending of past and present.

Be you, Chuck Pagano.
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Re: Bears hire Chuck Pagano to be Defensive Coordinator

Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:41 pm

Mikefive wrote:
cblaz11 wrote:
Atkins&Rebel wrote:
cblaz11 wrote:
Umbali wrote:Well, he should have to learn our terminology etc..why teach the whole D when you can just make the coach learn? :P

Hope it works out
Disagree

He’s the DC, trust him to do his thing. Asking the coach to come in and “fit in” is what got Mel Tucker into trouble. He was running half of his D and half of Lovies. Nobody was on the same page.
Good coordinators don't come into the #1 defense and change a bunch of shit just to stroke their ego. Chuck is considered a players' coach, so I don't expect him to muck up too much. But almost every defense will change their calls from year to year (and game to game for divisional opponents), or teams will know what the defense is adjusting to and where the blitz is coming from. The oly calls that stay the same are the Payton Manning "Omaha" dummy calls.
I agree in the fact that you should identify what players had success doing what and you try to keep them in similar roles. That said, you get into trouble if you tell a coach to run someone else’s defense.

Fangio was great at disguising his coverages just enough to give the front 4 an extra second to get to the QB. He was also great at very rarely allowing plays over the top. They kept everything in front of them. When you have a more aggressive defense, that opens you up to big plays. In today’s NFL, I want Vics style over a blitz heavy D. I’m hoping Pagano agrees.

Rely on 4 man pass rush with occasional blitz

Preach keeping everything in front

Preach all 11 guys swarming to the ball

Flip coverages to ensure QB is always unsure
When you bring in a new coordinator, the worst thing you could do is to Mel Tucker him into trying to run a scheme that isn't him.

Instead, you have him study closely what we did last year with the pieces he has and learn how to integrate what we did and what our current cast's strengths into Pagano's concepts. Like Nagy's blocking scheme adjustment to Jordan Howard, you have to adapt to what you have. But at the same time, Pagano has experiences, things he understands well and concepts he likes to put into play that work with his style. It needs to be a blending of past and present.

Be you, Chuck Pagano.

Well said, agree 100%
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Re: Bears hire Chuck Pagano to be Defensive Coordinator

Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:24 pm

Atkins&Rebel wrote:Well I got too much going on to dig into this too much, but Chuck took over the Raven's Superbowl defense that was compared to the Bears '85 team for greatness. While it was still very good the following year, there were some areas that the team slipped. One was turnover margin. Bal went from 1st overall in '00 to 23rd in '01. Now was that from the offense fumbling and throwing INT's way more, or the defense just not getting the TO's it did the year before? Our team feasted off TO's this year and a major drop will make us look closer to average, especially against the schedule we have in 2019.
First post on the board for me guys. I'm a long-time lurker (well, since KFFL went down) and enjoy reading what you guys have to say.

I thought I should point out from the quoted post that Pagano coached the 2011 Ravens and not the 2001 Ravens, so he didn't have the same type of talent on the roster (albeit, good talent). I liked what you did though (comparing the previous year defense to the year that he took over as DC) because that's relevant in evaluating his performance. I looked up the 2010 Ravens Defense to see what his potential impact was (admittedly, without comparing the rosters).

The 2010 Ravens ranked:
YPG - 10
PYPG - 21
RYPG - 5
PPG - 3
Turnovers - 15
YPP - 11
Def Penalties - 31

The 2011 Ravens:
YPG -3
PYPG - 4
RYPG - 3
PPG - 3
Turnovers - 13
YPP - 2
Def Penalties -19


Pretty solid improvement across the board, while maintaining the high ranked 3rd in PPG.
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Re: Bears hire Chuck Pagano to be Defensive Coordinator

Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:18 pm

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Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:28 pm

Mikefive wrote:
cblaz11 wrote:
Atkins&Rebel wrote:
cblaz11 wrote:
Umbali wrote:Well, he should have to learn our terminology etc..why teach the whole D when you can just make the coach learn? :P

Hope it works out
Disagree

He’s the DC, trust him to do his thing. Asking the coach to come in and “fit in” is what got Mel Tucker into trouble. He was running half of his D and half of Lovies. Nobody was on the same page.
Good coordinators don't come into the #1 defense and change a bunch of shit just to stroke their ego. Chuck is considered a players' coach, so I don't expect him to muck up too much. But almost every defense will change their calls from year to year (and game to game for divisional opponents), or teams will know what the defense is adjusting to and where the blitz is coming from. The oly calls that stay the same are the Payton Manning "Omaha" dummy calls.
I agree in the fact that you should identify what players had success doing what and you try to keep them in similar roles. That said, you get into trouble if you tell a coach to run someone else’s defense.

Fangio was great at disguising his coverages just enough to give the front 4 an extra second to get to the QB. He was also great at very rarely allowing plays over the top. They kept everything in front of them. When you have a more aggressive defense, that opens you up to big plays. In today’s NFL, I want Vics style over a blitz heavy D. I’m hoping Pagano agrees.

Rely on 4 man pass rush with occasional blitz

Preach keeping everything in front

Preach all 11 guys swarming to the ball

Flip coverages to ensure QB is always unsure
When you bring in a new coordinator, the worst thing you could do is to Mel Tucker him into trying to run a scheme that isn't him.

Instead, you have him study closely what we did last year with the pieces he has and learn how to integrate what we did and what our current cast's strengths into Pagano's concepts. Like Nagy's blocking scheme adjustment to Jordan Howard, you have to adapt to what you have. But at the same time, Pagano has experiences, things he understands well and concepts he likes to put into play that work with his style. It needs to be a blending of past and present.

Be you, Chuck Pagano.
Be you. Well said sir.


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Re: Bears hire Chuck Pagano to be Defensive Coordinator

Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:48 pm

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Mr.Irrelevant wrote:
VA_Mountain_Bear wrote: My biggest concern with this hire though is Pagano's ambitions or loyalties. One great way to fuck up Nagy's tenure is to waste the defensive talent by having our DC leave every year to become an HC, and never let the D side grow in system continuity, and constantly have those players in emotional flux. It would be the reverse of the OC carousel that characterized Lovie's years. I've a bad feeling Pagano is just using us as a stepping stone and next year we are right back in this spot.
These are my thoughts exactly. On the one hand I love the hire. Great guy, players love him, aggressive and successful as DC - everything we want. The perfect choice.

On the other hand, this feels like a one year rental. He actually had a lot of success as the Colts HC and once he proves what he can do with talent on his side of the ball he'll probably be a top candidate for the 7 or 8 head coaching positions that open up in 2020.
I think that ship has sailed for Pagano. Especially the way the league is trending. I doubt he gets a HC gig next year.
I hope you're right. But I beleive he did get two HC interviews this year, and if Vic's ship hadn't sailed then Chuck's hasn't either.
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Re: Bears hire Chuck Pagano to be Defensive Coordinator

Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:11 am

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Atkins&Rebel wrote:Well I got too much going on to dig into this too much, but Chuck took over the Raven's Superbowl defense that was compared to the Bears '85 team for greatness. While it was still very good the following year, there were some areas that the team slipped. One was turnover margin. Bal went from 1st overall in '00 to 23rd in '01. Now was that from the offense fumbling and throwing INT's way more, or the defense just not getting the TO's it did the year before? Our team feasted off TO's this year and a major drop will make us look closer to average, especially against the schedule we have in 2019.
First post on the board for me guys. I'm a long-time lurker (well, since KFFL went down) and enjoy reading what you guys have to say.

I thought I should point out from the quoted post that Pagano coached the 2011 Ravens and not the 2001 Ravens, so he didn't have the same type of talent on the roster (albeit, good talent). I liked what you did though (comparing the previous year defense to the year that he took over as DC) because that's relevant in evaluating his performance. I looked up the 2010 Ravens Defense to see what his potential impact was (admittedly, without comparing the rosters).

The 2010 Ravens ranked:
YPG - 10
PYPG - 21
RYPG - 5
PPG - 3
Turnovers - 15
YPP - 11
Def Penalties - 31

The 2011 Ravens:
YPG -3
PYPG - 4
RYPG - 3
PPG - 3
Turnovers - 13
YPP - 2
Def Penalties -19


Pretty solid improvement across the board, while maintaining the high ranked 3rd in PPG.
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Re: Bears hire Chuck Pagano to be Defensive Coordinator

Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:54 am

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Buffaloaf wrote:
Atkins&Rebel wrote:Well I got too much going on to dig into this too much, but Chuck took over the Raven's Superbowl defense that was compared to the Bears '85 team for greatness. While it was still very good the following year, there were some areas that the team slipped. One was turnover margin. Bal went from 1st overall in '00 to 23rd in '01. Now was that from the offense fumbling and throwing INT's way more, or the defense just not getting the TO's it did the year before? Our team feasted off TO's this year and a major drop will make us look closer to average, especially against the schedule we have in 2019.
First post on the board for me guys. I'm a long-time lurker (well, since KFFL went down) and enjoy reading what you guys have to say.

I thought I should point out from the quoted post that Pagano coached the 2011 Ravens and not the 2001 Ravens, so he didn't have the same type of talent on the roster (albeit, good talent). I liked what you did though (comparing the previous year defense to the year that he took over as DC) because that's relevant in evaluating his performance. I looked up the 2010 Ravens Defense to see what his potential impact was (admittedly, without comparing the rosters).

The 2010 Ravens ranked:
YPG - 10
PYPG - 21
RYPG - 5
PPG - 3
Turnovers - 15
YPP - 11
Def Penalties - 31

The 2011 Ravens:
YPG -3
PYPG - 4
RYPG - 3
PPG - 3
Turnovers - 13
YPP - 2
Def Penalties -19


Pretty solid improvement across the board, while maintaining the high ranked 3rd in PPG.
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Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:13 pm

I just saw an article that said Pagano is considering Rob Ryan as a OLB coach. Yikes? Not sure. Both Ryan brothers are pretty big personalities, so I don't know how to react to this.
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Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:I just saw an article that said Pagano is considering Rob Ryan as a OLB coach. Yikes? Not sure. Both Ryan brothers are pretty big personalities, so I don't know how to react to this.

And possibly Ed Reed. I’m starting to get excited.
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Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:28 pm

Ed Reed would be nice..
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Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:37 pm

Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:I just saw an article that said Pagano is considering Rob Ryan as a OLB coach. Yikes? Not sure. Both Ryan brothers are pretty big personalities, so I don't know how to react to this.
1.What exactly is the problem with the outside linebackers coach having a "big personality"?
2. You're going to gush over whoever the Bears hire anyway, why not start now?
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Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:40 pm

As far as the Pagano hire? I'm not exactly overwhelmed, but it's not like the defense is going to take a step back. And he is definitely more of a game-day defensive coordinator than Vic was. I'll let it play out. but there are going to be some roster changes that people aren't going to like initially.
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MoFugger wrote:As far as the Pagano hire? I'm not exactly overwhelmed, but it's not like the defense is going to take a step back. And he is definitely more of a game-day defensive coordinator than Vic was. I'll let it play out. but there are going to be some roster changes that people aren't going to like initially.
Such as?
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docc wrote:Ed Reed would be nice..
Ed Reed would be nice to have as a player in his prime. But can he coach?
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docc wrote:Ed Reed would be nice..
Ed Reed would be nice to have as a player in his prime. But can he coach?
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docc wrote:Ed Reed would be nice..
Ed Reed would be nice to have as a player in his prime. But can he coach?

It would be fun to see.
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Re: Bears hire Chuck Pagano to be Defensive Coordinator

Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:15 pm

Ed Reed was and is not only a great ex-player but also a great man. Watching him and Ray Lewis together on a show showed me how much Ed Reed was more into the X's and O's then I ever thought. He would be a great hire. Not to mention a great mentor to Eddie Jackson and Smith to be able to play like Lewis and Reed did for years.
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Re: Bears hire Chuck Pagano to be Defensive Coordinator

Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:24 pm

EricTighe wrote:Ed Reed was and is not only a great ex-player but also a great man. Watching him and Ray Lewis together on a show showed me how much Ed Reed was more into the X's and O's then I ever thought. He would be a great hire. Not to mention a great mentor to Eddie Jackson and Smith to be able to play like Lewis and Reed did for years.

I’ve also seen that show. I agree 100%, you don’t get to that level without knowing the ins and outs of systems, film break down and being a sponge to every coach that he has come in contact with. Knowing how to play at level for as long as he did, being a leader of men and being able to share that knowledge would be icing on the cake to the bears DB’s.
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Re: Bears hire Chuck Pagano to be Defensive Coordinator

Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:12 am

Mikefive wrote:
MoFugger wrote:As far as the Pagano hire? I'm not exactly overwhelmed, but it's not like the defense is going to take a step back. And he is definitely more of a game-day defensive coordinator than Vic was. I'll let it play out. but there are going to be some roster changes that people aren't going to like initially.
Such as?
Mostly changes in the secondary. Amos will walk, and they will use cap space and or draft capital to bring in a corner that people are going to think is frivolous. I don't really know the numbers, but I don't think it's affordable to cut Prince, so he may be playing a lesser role at a starters contract.
I absolutely expect Jordan Howard to get traded, which doesn't necessarily have anything to do with pagano.
But our back 4/5 is going to look a lot different, and it's not going to come for free.
so when I said people aren't going to like it, I mean we could lose some fan favorites, and make some moves that people are going to think are necessary, or a priority.
I don't see sweeping changes on the defense itself, but the secondary is going to look different. That is what pagano does, and that is why you bring him in.

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