Bears sign DE Robert Quinn to 5yr, $70M deal

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This year's pass rush is going to be fun to watch. Mack and Quinn, with Hicks up the middle. Teams will have to run two TE sets just to block the rush. Solid signing. Just not sure what we're doing on offense.
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Bears Whiskey Nut wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:53 pm This year's pass rush is going to be fun to watch. Mack and Quinn, with Hicks up the middle. Teams will have to run two TE sets just to block the rush. Solid signing. Just not sure what we're doing on offense.
Probably sucking. But the defense should be a lot of fun.
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A minor aside... Quinn is only two years older than Floyd.

And 80.5 to 18.5 career sacks. That part isn't minor, it's major.
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I like the signing, I do, but....I am concerned about how old are team is getting.
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I like the signing as well, BUT, Pace is proving he cannot build thru the draft (for the most part) so he has to do what he has to do.
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Jesus Christ!!! Our front seven is going to give opposing QB's nightmares.
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Otis Day wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:42 pm I like the signing as well, BUT, Pace is proving he cannot build thru the draft (for the most part) so he has to do what he has to do.
Well, he gives away draft picks like they're worthless. Again, this "win-now" bullshit is a stupid strategy. It forces GMs to make really idiotic moves.
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Otis Day wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:42 pm I like the signing as well, BUT, Pace is proving he cannot build thru the draft (for the most part) so he has to do what he has to do.
Which is how the best teams are built. Pace needs to focus on the draft in 2021 and beyond if he’s still around.
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Grizzled wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:54 pm
Otis Day wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:42 pm I like the signing as well, BUT, Pace is proving he cannot build thru the draft (for the most part) so he has to do what he has to do.
Which is how the best teams are built. Pace needs to focus on the draft in 2021 and beyond if he’s still around.
They've thrown a hail mary by hiring Defilippo. If he can't get Trubisky on track, no one can.
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This is a huge signing. Swapping Quinn for Floyd is a huge upgrade. And Quinn has position versatility like Mack, both can play standing up or hand down. With a healthy Hicks, there’s just huge trouble. You can’t double 3 guys. Quinn is a big time pass rusher, this is Denver SB stuff with two great outside rushers. And Danny lol. Our defense is going to kick some serious ass this year - I’m going to lay off Pagano I’m rooting for this group to be GREAT. I don’t care about our CB2 really, our front 7 is going to be so dominant we could put Chris Farley back there.

Is there a better LB Corps in the NFL than:
Quinn/Roquan/Trevathan/Mack ??
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dplank wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:01 pmIs there a better LB Corps in the NFL than:
Quinn/Roquan/Trevathan/Mack ??
Nope. And I don't even think it's close. Third downs are going to be fun.
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The question becomes who drops into coverage? Quinn has dropped into coverage a total of like eight times in his career. Fun problem to have though.
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Yogi da Bear wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:40 pm The question becomes who drops into coverage? Quinn has dropped into coverage a total of like eight times in his career. Fun problem to have though.
Who cares. Floyd played about 10 percent or less in pass coverage and was less effective than Mack, Trevathon, Kwit, KPL and Smith based on passing stats against him.

The fallacy of him being some pass coverage savant was cooked up by people who didn't want to admit he was average.
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Yogi da Bear wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:40 pm The question becomes who drops into coverage? Quinn has dropped into coverage a total of like eight times in his career. Fun problem to have though.
Shouldnt happen a lot. Probably 60% of the snaps occur with 2 DL. Those 2 and Mack/Quinn is 4 rushers, leaving 7 in coverage.

Pagano shouldn't have to dial up many weird blitzes. Mack, Quinn, and Hicks are coming for your QB. There isn't anything to hide.
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Bears Whiskey Nut wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:59 pm Just watched some highlights. Super high motor guy.
I actually had to triple check after I heard that we signed him.
I mean, it's kind of like signing Julius Peppers back in the day, but it's also like signing Julius Peppers back in the day.
I'll bet nobody loves this more than Khalil Mack right now.
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This one stunned me, but I like it. This should really be a good pairing with Mack, and both should aid the other. Quinn isn't "too old" as some have said, and our D line looks scary as hell right now. Also, I think I've read that this draft is a bit weak on Edge Rushers, so we can now effectively use our first 2 picks in other areas than TE or EDGE
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Yogi da Bear wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:40 pm The question becomes who drops into coverage? Quinn has dropped into coverage a total of like eight times in his career. Fun problem to have though.
Roquan, DT, Iggy are all coverage LBs. I think you will see quite a few more 4 man fronts than we have in the past too with Quinn and RRH lining up inside on passing downs (like what the Niners did with Armstead and Dee Ford).
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wab wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:53 am
Yogi da Bear wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:40 pm The question becomes who drops into coverage? Quinn has dropped into coverage a total of like eight times in his career. Fun problem to have though.
Roquan, DT, Iggy are all coverage LBs. I think you will see quite a few more 4 man fronts than we have in the past too with Quinn and RRH lining up inside on passing downs (like what the Niners did with Armstead and Dee Ford).
Yeah, both Mack and Quinn are comfortable with, and Quinn has stated he likes, to play with his hand in the dirt.

Those guys on the ends with Hicks and either EG or maybe RRH in the middle? Scary to block.
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I like this signing and think he will be a perfect compliment to Mack
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BR0D1E86 wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:39 am
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Roquan, DT, Iggy are all coverage LBs. I think you will see quite a few more 4 man fronts than we have in the past too with Quinn and RRH lining up inside on passing downs (like what the Niners did with Armstead and Dee Ford).
Yeah, both Mack and Quinn are comfortable with, and Quinn has stated he likes, to play with his hand in the dirt.

Those guys on the ends with Hicks and either EG or maybe RRH in the middle? Scary to block.
Yeah, in passing situations, offenses are screwed. But what about from our base 3-4? Are we going to make Quinn a DE? So we have Hicks, Goldman, Quinn along our DL with Mack and somebody like Iggy is our OLBs?

Can be done, but if we do that, we better make sure we bring in hard hitting SS. We're going to need some more run support with that formation.
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Yogi da Bear wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:52 pm
BR0D1E86 wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:39 am

Yeah, both Mack and Quinn are comfortable with, and Quinn has stated he likes, to play with his hand in the dirt.

Those guys on the ends with Hicks and either EG or maybe RRH in the middle? Scary to block.
Yeah, in passing situations, offenses are screwed. But what about from our base 3-4? Are we going to make Quinn a DE? So we have Hicks, Goldman, Quinn along our DL with Mack and somebody like Iggy is our OLBs?

Can be done, but if we do that, we better make sure we bring in hard hitting SS. We're going to need some more run support with that formation.
Frankly nickel is more truely the base than "base" is. I think Quinn be an OLB in all formations.
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From PFT:

1. Signing bonus: $3 million.

2. 2020 roster bonus: $12.5 million, fully guaranteed.

3. 2020 base salary: $3 million, fully guaranteed.

4. 2021 base salary: $11.5 million, fully guaranteed.

5. 2022 base salary: $12.8 million.

6. 2023 base salary: $13.9 million.

7. 2024 base salary: $12.9 million.

The deal also has $100,000 workout bonuses from 2021 through 2024.

It’s basically a two-year, $30 million deal with a team option for the next three seasons.

Quinn, who turns 30 in May, had 11.5 sacks in 14 games last season, his first and only in Dallas. He had a career-high 19.0 sacks with the Rams in 2013.
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Pretty ok deal on paper honestly
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RustyTrubisky wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:49 pm From PFT:

1. Signing bonus: $3 million.

2. 2020 roster bonus: $12.5 million, fully guaranteed.

3. 2020 base salary: $3 million, fully guaranteed.

4. 2021 base salary: $11.5 million, fully guaranteed.

5. 2022 base salary: $12.8 million.

6. 2023 base salary: $13.9 million.

7. 2024 base salary: $12.9 million.

The deal also has $100,000 workout bonuses from 2021 through 2024.

It’s basically a two-year, $30 million deal with a team option for the next three seasons.

Quinn, who turns 30 in May, had 11.5 sacks in 14 games last season, his first and only in Dallas. He had a career-high 19.0 sacks with the Rams in 2013.

Actually, looking at that structure, that's a great deal for us. 2 years fully guaranteed and then three years we can deal with on a year by year basis.
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Yeah, almost no dead cap by year 3? Very solid.
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My major concern with him is if he's going to go invisible in the 3-4 after a career year in the 4-3.
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UOK wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:24 am My major concern with him is if he's going to go invisible in the 3-4 after a career year in the 4-3.
Yeah, I've seen that concern.
He spent 1-2 yrs recently in 34 and it was a definite dropoff and returning to the 43 was a big boost for him.
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