2020 NFL Draft General Discussion

College football and the NFL Draft

Moderator: wab

User avatar
Otis Day
Hall of Famer
Posts: 8061
Joined: Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:43 pm
Location: Armpit of IL.
Has thanked: 120 times
Been thanked: 306 times

Kmet will provide more impact than any of the other scrub TEs on the roster. He is the TE they need in this offense. We need playmakers, he can be one from this position. Bears need to score points, this pick helps.
User avatar
The Cooler King
Hall of Famer
Posts: 5005
Joined: Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:07 pm
Has thanked: 1203 times
Been thanked: 346 times

donkeykong wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:09 pm That gives us 10 TE’s on the roster. We really needed that right this minute?
Most the TEs of that 10 are junk.

A little underwhelmed by Kmet, but if he hits the high ends of his scouting report it would be a big deal for the O. Hoping for the best.
wiNDycityfan
Pro Bowler
Posts: 406
Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:54 pm
Has thanked: 4 times
Been thanked: 28 times

What about Jaylon Johnson CB from Utah? No idea about him. Didn’t even read or see him listed this high.
User avatar
Moriarty
Hall of Famer
Posts: 6806
Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2016 1:22 pm
Has thanked: 384 times
Been thanked: 688 times

I think we absolutely needed another TE, especially after the Burton cut.

But I'm neutral/lukewarm about Kmet at 43. I'd agree he's probably the best TE. There's a huge difference in draft value between 43 and R3-4 and I'm not at all sure that the difference between Kmet and TEs you could get in R3-4 is all that big.
1999-2002: Mouth Off Sports Forum (RIP)
2002-2014: KFFL (RIP)
2014-2016: USAToday Fantasy Sports Forum (RIP)

Hello, my name is Moriarty. I have come to kill your website, prepare to die.
User avatar
The Cooler King
Hall of Famer
Posts: 5005
Joined: Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:07 pm
Has thanked: 1203 times
Been thanked: 346 times

Johnson seems like he has a good profile, but hopefully the shoulder injury isn't a serious thing.
User avatar
Moriarty
Hall of Famer
Posts: 6806
Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2016 1:22 pm
Has thanked: 384 times
Been thanked: 688 times

I've been saying all along that CB2 is (excluding QB) the position I have the least confidence in, so I understand the JJ pick. Especially in a draft supposedly really good at corner.

But for the sake of helping the QB(s) and getting that settled, I would have been more inclined to trade down and go OL + WR.
1999-2002: Mouth Off Sports Forum (RIP)
2002-2014: KFFL (RIP)
2014-2016: USAToday Fantasy Sports Forum (RIP)

Hello, my name is Moriarty. I have come to kill your website, prepare to die.
User avatar
thunderspirit
Head Coach
Posts: 3829
Joined: Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:51 pm
Location: Greater Chicagoland, IL
Has thanked: 605 times
Been thanked: 603 times

Moriarty wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:35 pm I think we absolutely needed another TE, especially after the Burton cut.

But I'm neutral/lukewarm about Kmet at 43. I'd agree he's probably the best TE. There's a huge difference in draft value between 43 and R3-4 and I'm not at all sure that the difference between Kmet and TEs you could get in R3-4 is all that big.
I disagree.

Kmet is a demonstrably better athlete than almost every other TE in the draft (he's behind enigma Albert Okwuebunam and red flag magnet CJ O'Grady, but that's it). He's already head and shoulders better than anyone they have on the roster not named Jimmy Graham.
KFFL refugee.

dplank wrote:I agree with Rich here
RichH55 wrote: Dplank is correct
:shocked:
User avatar
thunderspirit
Head Coach
Posts: 3829
Joined: Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:51 pm
Location: Greater Chicagoland, IL
Has thanked: 605 times
Been thanked: 603 times

And I have zero issue with Jaylon Johnson, who has Day 1 talent.
KFFL refugee.

dplank wrote:I agree with Rich here
RichH55 wrote: Dplank is correct
:shocked:
User avatar
The Cooler King
Hall of Famer
Posts: 5005
Joined: Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:07 pm
Has thanked: 1203 times
Been thanked: 346 times

Moriarty wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:42 pm I've been saying all along that CB2 is (excluding QB) the position I have the least confidence in, so I understand the JJ pick. Especially in a draft supposedly really good at corner.

But for the sake of helping the QB(s) and getting that settled, I would have been more inclined to trade down and go OL + WR.
If he can find the right trade partner and a price comparable to the Montgomery and Miller moves, I'd be in favor of moving into the 3rd by using a 2021 pick.
User avatar
alexwilkins
Crafty Veteran
Posts: 966
Joined: Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:00 am
Location: North Pole, AK
Has thanked: 13 times
Been thanked: 53 times

So best case scenario, Kmet plays behind Graham for a year, then we can move Graham.

Then Johnson can either win the job opposite Fuller, or play slot for a year if they want to move on from Skrine.
BR0D1E86
MVP
Posts: 1833
Joined: Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:50 am

Not what I would have done with the picks given who was available, but hopefully they both end up being good players for us.
User avatar
The Cooler King
Hall of Famer
Posts: 5005
Joined: Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:07 pm
Has thanked: 1203 times
Been thanked: 346 times

BR0D1E86 wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:59 pm Not what I would have done with the picks given who was available, but hopefully they both end up being good players for us.
Neither are head scratchers, IMO. Just gotta give them the benefit of the doubt at this point. They're Bears now, so I'm rooting for them!
BR0D1E86
MVP
Posts: 1833
Joined: Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:50 am

The Cooler King wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:00 pm
BR0D1E86 wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:59 pm Not what I would have done with the picks given who was available, but hopefully they both end up being good players for us.
Neither are head scratchers, IMO. Just gotta give them the benefit of the doubt at this point. They're Bears now, so I'm rooting for them!
I agree, both are picks that made sense. I just thought that there were better players available.. mainly the Kmet pick. I'd have rather picked several players in that spot (Delpit, Epenesa, Claypool, Josh Jones, maybe a trade back for Cushenbery off the top of my head, maybe some others).

I'm all in on him now though, hoping for both picks to hit big.
User avatar
crueltyabc
Hall of Famer
Posts: 5119
Joined: Mon May 04, 2009 7:36 pm
Location: Dallas TX
Has thanked: 79 times
Been thanked: 226 times

I love the Johnson pick but the Kmet pick out lots of pressure on Pace to find some gems late in the draft. it’s possible: guard and safety are historically available late. The wr depth might save him there... tomorrow will be big for our team and an afterthought for other teams
xyt in the discord chats
User avatar
Z Bear
MVP
Posts: 1656
Joined: Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:45 am
Has thanked: 21 times
Been thanked: 141 times

Pace took the best offensive player on the board at 43 and the best DB on his board at 50. I know some of us had differnet choices, but that was the best value with our picls. Both will be big contribtuors their rookie seasons baring health so this is as good as we could of asked for. I would of rather gone Mims and Chin, but both the guys we gotare extemely solid prospects and improve the team.
User avatar
BearsFanInMN
Crafty Veteran
Posts: 771
Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:58 pm
Location: Phoenix/Tempe
Has thanked: 195 times
Been thanked: 40 times

thunderspirit wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:48 pm He's already head and shoulders better than anyone they have on the roster not named Jimmy Graham.
I don't disagree but also think it's a dubious honor.
MOTML League: Eskimo Brothers
User avatar
mmmc_35
Hall of Famer
Posts: 6113
Joined: Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:25 am
Has thanked: 105 times
Been thanked: 98 times

I wanted Josh Jones or Cleveland. The Kmet pick shows to me Pace is in a win now mode. He picked a player who will likely have a roll in this offense early.

Johnson was a great pick.
User avatar
thunderspirit
Head Coach
Posts: 3829
Joined: Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:51 pm
Location: Greater Chicagoland, IL
Has thanked: 605 times
Been thanked: 603 times

Eagles take K'Von Wallace. Too bad, I would've liked to see him in navy and orange.
KFFL refugee.

dplank wrote:I agree with Rich here
RichH55 wrote: Dplank is correct
:shocked:
User avatar
Rusty Trombagent
Hall of Famer
Posts: 7336
Joined: Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:19 am
Location: Maine!
Has thanked: 555 times
Been thanked: 967 times

this draft certainly validates my belief that the bears do not think the OL is anywhere near as bad as fans do.
Image
User avatar
thunderspirit
Head Coach
Posts: 3829
Joined: Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:51 pm
Location: Greater Chicagoland, IL
Has thanked: 605 times
Been thanked: 603 times

Lions take Jason Huntley. I liked Huntley as a backup/KR guy, but not before some of the other backs out there. Very rich for me.
KFFL refugee.

dplank wrote:I agree with Rich here
RichH55 wrote: Dplank is correct
:shocked:
User avatar
thunderspirit
Head Coach
Posts: 3829
Joined: Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:51 pm
Location: Greater Chicagoland, IL
Has thanked: 605 times
Been thanked: 603 times

Sweet, the Patriots have now drafted two players (Rohrwasser and Maluia) I've never heard of.
KFFL refugee.

dplank wrote:I agree with Rich here
RichH55 wrote: Dplank is correct
:shocked:
User avatar
makaur
Pro Bowler
Posts: 413
Joined: Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:03 am
Location: Northern Virginia
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 3 times

RustyTrubisky wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:02 pm this draft certainly validates my belief that the bears do not think the OL is anywhere near as bad as fans do.
...which is weird, because I didn't think the Packers OL needs were anywhere close to ours.

As I'm writing this, the Pukes have drafted 3 OL players (2 G's and 1 C). Whether those players make the team or not is not relevant right now. They're drafting their needs whereas Ryan Pace is probably wondering if he can move up to draft the best available ball boy.
The Grizzly One
Crafty Veteran
Posts: 934
Joined: Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:09 am
Has thanked: 675 times
Been thanked: 128 times

Moriarty wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:42 pm I've been saying all along that CB2 is (excluding QB) the position I have the least confidence in, so I understand the JJ pick. Especially in a draft supposedly really good at corner.

But for the sake of helping the QB(s) and getting that settled, I would have been more inclined to trade down and go OL + WR.
Tip of the cap to you.

I was wrong on their thoughts of Toliver.

But maybe I could still be right about him. Stay tuned...
I'm gone. Have a nice life. I'm clearly not wanted here.
User avatar
mmmc_35
Hall of Famer
Posts: 6113
Joined: Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:25 am
Has thanked: 105 times
Been thanked: 98 times

If the 2 7ths are J.R. REED and Juilian Good-Jones I would be happy.
User avatar
alexwilkins
Crafty Veteran
Posts: 966
Joined: Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:00 am
Location: North Pole, AK
Has thanked: 13 times
Been thanked: 53 times

I hope Binjimen Victor is one of our picks. Basically another Javon Wims, a go up and get it guy, but hell. I like him, so why not?
User avatar
makaur
Pro Bowler
Posts: 413
Joined: Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:03 am
Location: Northern Virginia
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 3 times

Holy crap.....two G's in the 7th round. Nice size on both but I wonder if they're any good.
User avatar
thunderspirit
Head Coach
Posts: 3829
Joined: Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:51 pm
Location: Greater Chicagoland, IL
Has thanked: 605 times
Been thanked: 603 times

Arlington Hambright is a former JUCO kid who came to Colorado as a grad transfer from Oklahoma State. Has like 17 starts between the two at LT, but his arm length probably says G. Had a nice pro day before they shut them all down.
KFFL refugee.

dplank wrote:I agree with Rich here
RichH55 wrote: Dplank is correct
:shocked:
User avatar
thunderspirit
Head Coach
Posts: 3829
Joined: Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:51 pm
Location: Greater Chicagoland, IL
Has thanked: 605 times
Been thanked: 603 times

I don't know much at all about Lachavious Simmons except that he played in this year's Hula Bowl. His school profile page says he's started at LT, RT, and G, and that he's an honor roll kid.
KFFL refugee.

dplank wrote:I agree with Rich here
RichH55 wrote: Dplank is correct
:shocked:
User avatar
wab
Mod
Posts: 29805
Joined: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:49 pm
Has thanked: 127 times
Been thanked: 1956 times

thunderspirit wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:14 pm I don't know much at all about Lachavious Simmons except that he played in this year's Hula Bowl. His school profile page says he's started at LT, RT, and G, and that he's an honor roll kid.
I watched one highlight video. The dude is an evil man on the football field. Granted, it’s against a bunch of nobodies...
User avatar
wab
Mod
Posts: 29805
Joined: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:49 pm
Has thanked: 127 times
Been thanked: 1956 times

The packers had an awful draft. I liked the three exterior guys they picked, but the interior of their line wasn’t the problem.

Rodgers literally has one weapon on the edge.
Post Reply