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Tell me you don't really think that? I would believe Chase Daniel is the Greatest QB of all time before I believe Antonion Brown would sign for anything less than a max deal.dplank wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:47 pm ....there, I said it....
I'm sure this is not a popular opinion and that's ok. But I think Brown would come to a team for a vet minimum deal just to reestablish himself as a viable NFL player, so our risk would be very low financially. I also think he's been seriously humbled by what's happened over the past year and is smart enough to know that he needs to get back in to the game, and stay drama free, if he's going to rescuscitate what was a great career.
I welcome your abuse.
Oh, well if so then I'd want no parts of it. Also, agree with the take that we should focus on OL first, Warford is still out there. Wanna fix the short yardage rushing problem? He'd do it.otis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:48 am i thought part of the problem with signing ab is that once a team signs him then the nfl gets back to the business of punishing him. so even if we did sign him there's a good chance he doesn't get to play until goodell suspends him for however many games he deems is a message.
I mean, would the NFL really suspend him for the truck driver thing? I don't know. I don't think it would be that long.otis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:48 am i thought part of the problem with signing ab is that once a team signs him then the nfl gets back to the business of punishing him. so even if we did sign him there's a good chance he doesn't get to play until goodell suspends him for however many games he deems is a message.
How much of that is PR v. being a WR generally (Diva mentality)Atkins&Rebel wrote: ↑Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:23 pm At this point AB finds himself in the same category as Terrell Owens, Chad Johnson (mid career version where he was still talented but goofy) and to a lesser extent, Brandon Marshall. All 4 of these guys are/were talented beyond belief, but teams just had to make a choice if the talent was worth the headache.
Besides the moving truck incident, AB has been accused of sexual misconduct and could be legit insane (unless he was very calculated in his public acting out to get away from the Raiders).
You would need so many ways to terminate the contract for any and all off field behavior, and get favorable numbers that only paid after AB delivered. Anything you give him before you might not get back, even if he is allowed to play by the league.
I don't think that AB is a stupid person. Nuts? Yea, probably, whatever that means...he's got major narcissistic and anger issues. But, I think now that he's been bounced from the league, he's received his wakeup call. He had not yet recieved that wakeup call in Oak or NE. Maybe he can overcome his worst instincts now that he knows his career, and all that goes with it, are so obviously behind him if he can't. Since he isn't a stupid person, he must know this.UOK wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:43 am Just remind yourself that even Belichick, Brady, and the Pats PR-machine couldn't handle AB's mania. They dealt with Tebow with more patience.
AB is not Brandon Marshall, and Brandon Marshall was merely eccentric. AB is more likely closer to being unhinged. You can't really control that kind of distraction.
AB is exceptionally talented, there's no denying that, but it's difficult to bring him into a situation like the Bears where you're on a knife's edge with your quarterback situation, plus I don't know if Nagy's offense would give AB the ball enough.dplank wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:49 amI don't think that AB is a stupid person. Nuts? Yea, probably, whatever that means...he's got major narcissistic and anger issues. But, I think now that he's been bounced from the league, he's received his wakeup call. He had not yet recieved that wakeup call in Oak or NE. Maybe he can overcome his worst instincts now that he knows his career, and all that goes with it, are so obviously behind him if he can't. Since he isn't a stupid person, he must know this.UOK wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:43 am Just remind yourself that even Belichick, Brady, and the Pats PR-machine couldn't handle AB's mania. They dealt with Tebow with more patience.
AB is not Brandon Marshall, and Brandon Marshall was merely eccentric. AB is more likely closer to being unhinged. You can't really control that kind of distraction.
Doesn't make it a slam dunk or anything, his mental issues could simply be so out of control that he can't walk the line he needs to walk. That would actually be really sad IMO, he shouldn't be mocked for his issues as they appear to be straight up mental and treatable.
Anyhow, seems like a very low risk move to me. We bring him in, see how he behaves, and have a quick trigger if he's still a giant doucher. But the upside is pretty massive isn't it? ARob/ABrown/AMiller trio would be damn good.
As Rich said, this reminds me very much of the TO situation when the Eagles took him, and he practically carried that team to a super bowl appearance.
taking chances and risks are involved in building a winning team ... but you have to have the team mindset to handle it and actually succeed
You generalize WAAAAAY too much. Many Bears fans didn't give a crap about Roquans iPad, a majority I'd say. Or Benson's holdout. Or Briggs Lambo. The minority that actually was pissed about that stuff probably would be pissed about AB also, just guessing.wab wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:11 pm Bears fans are livid with Roquan for losing an ipad, taking a game off to get his mind right, and taking an ill timed photo.
Bears fans are still pissed at the recently deceased Cedric Benson for holding out over a decade ago.
Bears fans are still pissed at Lance Briggs for wrecking his Lambo.
Bears fans are still upset with Todd Sauerbrun for being too cocky as a rookie in 1995.
And we think AB is a good idea?.
Which just shows how stupid Bear fans can truly be.wab wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:11 pm Bears fans are livid with Roquan for losing an ipad, taking a game off to get his mind right, and taking an ill timed photo.
Bears fans are still pissed at the recently deceased Cedric Benson for holding out over a decade ago.
Bears fans are still pissed at Lance Briggs for wrecking his Lambo.
Bears fans are still upset with Todd Sauerbrun for being too cocky as a rookie in 1995.
And we think AB is a good idea?.
NOT this we...wab wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:11 pm Bears fans are livid with Roquan for losing an ipad, taking a game off to get his mind right, and taking an ill timed photo.
Bears fans are still pissed at the recently deceased Cedric Benson for holding out over a decade ago.
Bears fans are still pissed at Lance Briggs for wrecking his Lambo.
Bears fans are still upset with Todd Sauerbrun for being too cocky as a rookie in 1995.
And we think AB is a good idea?.
