I have an open mind about trading Mack and Quinn provided that it's for above average or elite OL help. I would rather not trade them for picks unless those said picks were high 1s that I could use to draft an elite OL prospect.malk wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:25 amOne is in evaluating Desai over the past year. I.e. if you have significant holes in your starting roster then they're going to be exposed. The other is evaluating the roster over a longer term with a view to becoming a team that makes the playoffs regularly and gets 2+ playoff wins not infrequently (admittedly that's shooting for the stars). For the roster I don't see us with any chance of getting 2+ playoff wins next year and in 2023 when it might be possible Mack and Quinn will be pretty old and with a decent chance of being shot or at least much diminished. So it'd be selling as high as we can and clearing out cap space ready to rebuild with players at a more suitable age for where the team is. Short term pain for, hopefully, long term gain.wab wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:47 pm
How are you going to say that the Bears need to ditch Mack and Quinn and then in the very next paragraph acknowledge that the Bears were forced to play guys that weren't starter quality?
I understand that you are obsessed with contracts and the cap, but the Bears need talent too. I understand moving on from Quinn if you can get a decent pick for him, because Gipson is waiting in the wings. I really don't understand moving on from Mack simply because you (as a fan) don't like his contract.
On the press conference, didn't watch myself but I wouldn't read that much into it anyway. It's a really odd position to hire, perhaps like hiring a CTO or something where there isn't really anyone above with the technical knowledge to assess. When people look at the franchises that are considered good at this kind of thing it usually boils down to them getting one hire right and then that lasting for ages giving the impression of long term competency when it was just that one initial decision. That's compounded when the one good hire is a GM who then uses their ability to succession plan later on.
Now I suspect I'll be disappointed in the end as our ownership seems like the sort to go with a conservative choice of picking a good talent evaluator rather than a more moneyball type that I'd prefer but that's, I think, a different argument.
In that scenario, what about Jenkins and Borom?
The best player plays. Period. If you can upgrade a position, you do it. We don't owe these people anything.
I'd move Borom inside and Jenkins to another T spot or him inside to G also. Then have a competition with Whitehair and Daniels. The losers get traded or cut.
We have a fundamental problem with our cap. Too much money on 30+ year old defensive players in a league driven by younger offensive players.