Poles/Flus end of season press conference recap

[thunderspirit]

But if we can get Saquan for 3 million more?

First of all, you most probably can't.

Second of all, Saquon Barkley isn't who Ryan Poles said this about:

I've always wanted to keep David. I love his mentality, how he plays the game. I told him that to his face. He’s part of the identity that we had this year that kept us competitive.

Third, I'm generally not in favor of paying RBs, but I'll make an exception to keep a guy like that on my team, particularly while money isn't an issue (and with a 2-3 year deal with some guaranteed coin that takes care of him and his family for life, when the cap tightens you're better prepared for life after him — and so is he).

In fact, I wonder how realistic it would be for a winning team to do one year deals with RBs at, say, $4-5M. Need to go crunch some numbers...

[southdakbearfan]

I enjoy your posts for the most part, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen so much hate from a fan for the owner of their favorite team. I think you have to let it go…To think the Bears ownership doesn’t care about winning is a view I wouldn’t expect from someone so knowledgeable. It’s a take I would expect from a caller on the Boars and Bernstein show.

All of the following can be true.

Bears ownership wants to win
Bears ownership cares about the fans
Bears ownership hasn’t been successful in producing a winner

We haven't won a Super Bowl since 1985.

38 years ago.

Fans have every right to hate the ownership.

I’ll save my hate for the packers.

But I would be dishonest to say the bears and their ownership haven’t disappointed me the last 38 years.

[dplank]

I don’t know how good a scheme fit Barkley would be here. Hopefully we keep Monty on a salary valued at a running back by committee type level. No need to spend heavy here, focus elsewhere.

[docc]

Monty is worth 3/21 with 10 Guaranteed..and he and Hebert make a great RB threat along with the talent of Fields..and less to replace..as we have more need elsewhere..

Keep Monty..he's our pounder..

[The Marshall Plan]

I'm so jaded about the 35 years of bullshit from these people that I don't think I'd believe them if they said water is wet.

HOWEVER....

I watched that presser and the big difference is that Poles and Coach aren't smug.

Pace and McNagy were smug. Especially McNagy; not only was he smug he was a know-it-all.

I think at least in terms of people you'd want to have a beer with it would be Poles and Coach by ten miles over those other two idiots.

I'd have a beer(s) with Satan himself, if he bought.

You must be pretty thirsty.

[The Marshall Plan]

Saquon will clear 14per at least, IMO.

I’m out

Don't be so quick to dismiss.

Say it out loud. One hundred and twenty million dollars.

Although admittedly I'm in the camp of signing Josh Jacobs or using a trade down pick in the 2nd or 3rd on an RB.

My issue is with Monty; not whatever his cap figure is going to be.

[The Marshall Plan]

We haven't won a Super Bowl since 1985.

38 years ago.

Fans have every right to hate the ownership.

I agree, if your life is so shallow that the Bears winning is that important.

This is a message board.

For Bears fans.

Your post reminds me of when wab channels his inner Judd Nelson, turns into John Bender and is like oh I don't care, you're all going to be disappointed.

[Rusty Trombagent]

I'm so jaded about the 35 years of bullshit from these people that I don't think I'd believe them if they said water is wet.

HOWEVER....

I watched that presser and the big difference is that Poles and Coach aren't smug.

Pace and McNagy were smug. Especially McNagy; not only was he smug he was a know-it-all.

I think at least in terms of people you'd want to have a beer with it would be Poles and Coach by ten miles over those other two idiots.

I'd have a beer(s) with Satan himself, if he bought.

Jonathan Allen, is that you

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/332 ... ine-hitler

[Hema2.0]

I agree, if your life is so shallow that the Bears winning is that important.

This is a message board.

For Bears fans.

Your post reminds me of when wab channels his inner Judd Nelson, turns into John Bender and is like oh I don't care, you're all going to be disappointed.

I just think hate is a very strong word when its directed at people.

[o-pus #40 in B major]

This is a message board.

For Bears fans.

Your post reminds me of when wab channels his inner Judd Nelson, turns into John Bender and is like oh I don't care, you're all going to be disappointed.

I just think hate is a very strong word when its directed at people.

You can include the word kill along with hate.

[dplank]

I just don’t see ownership as a big part of the execution problem, beyond a few questionable GM choices. I hated both the Emery and Pace hires. Hopefully they got it right with Poles, only time will tell.

I also love old people and love having Virginia as our owner - her kids not so much lol. But that direct lineage to Halas is really cool to me. Sorta like my take on Soldier Field v Arlington Heights - I value our unique place in NFL history and really, really hate losing that.

Sadly, the Packers get this.

[dplank]

I just think hate is a very strong word when its directed at people.

You can include the word kill along with hate.

Don’t look down at your own signature block

[G08]

What a refreshing post-mortem. I thought Poles came across calm, collected and confident. Seemed better in front of the cameras as well, which was nice.

The #1 overall pick is such a blessing. Really, it affords us the opportunity to build around Justin Fields and if, God forbid, he sucks next year we will have multiple first round picks to move around in the draft to take another QB (I don't foresee this happening, but it's nice to have the failsafe).

Bring back Monty, build up the offensive line, see what you can do with a healthy Claypool, Mooney and Kmet.

Defensively, build up the defensive line with elite talent at 3T and DE, draft a playmaker at WILL and have at it.

[The Cooler King]

I just don’t see ownership as a big part of the execution problem, beyond a few questionable GM choices. I hated both the Emery and Pace hires. Hopefully they got it right with Poles, only time will tell.

I also love old people and love having Virginia as our owner - her kids not so much lol. But that direct lineage to Halas is really cool to me. Sorta like my take on Soldier Field v Arlington Heights - I value our unique place in NFL history and really, really hate losing that.

Sadly, the Packers get this.

Ownership leaves a lot to be desired, but I personally think it's a definite grass is greener issue. One right personnel choice can catapult a franchise up. And a bad one bring them right back on down. Thing is with the really good ones, you can kind of sit back for 20-30 years.

Hopefully the combo of Poles and (likely) Warren catapults the Bears and leaves ownership in the position to sit back and provide money (which is all you really want in a sports owner)

[Yogi da Bear]

Sometimes I think you have to have a bit of disembodiment to hate. It's harder to hate when you have an actual image to reflect on. How can you hate this woman?




I can't.

[IE]

I like the Conner comp and price range for Monty. He basically IS Conner in terms of short yardage and TD-focused, mixed in with some really nice receiving capability that isn't used enough (yet). I like that he got his median ypc this season up to 4. He was way more consistent than he's been in the past, IMO. Monty is what he is in terms of his stats - but definitely has the heart of a champion. Guy is ferocious and a leader.

I like that Poles and the coaches love him.

[The Marshall Plan]

Sometimes I think you have to have a bit of disembodiment to hate. It's harder to hate when you have an actual image to reflect on. How can you hate this woman?




I can't.

Because she looks like the damn Emperor from Star Wars for starters.

[malk]

What a refreshing post-mortem. I thought Poles came across calm, collected and confident. Seemed better in front of the cameras as well, which was nice.

The #1 overall pick is such a blessing. Really, it affords us the opportunity to build around Justin Fields and if, God forbid, he sucks next year we will have multiple first round picks to move around in the draft to take another QB (I don't foresee this happening, but it's nice to have the failsafe).

Bring back Monty, build up the offensive line, see what you can do with a healthy Claypool, Mooney and Kmet.

Defensively, build up the defensive line with elite talent at 3T and DE, draft a playmaker at WILL and have at it.

Getting a 2024 1st rounder is a great hedge against Fields not being as good as we hope/expect. That's a really good point.

[malk]

Sometimes I think you have to have a bit of disembodiment to hate. It's harder to hate when you have an actual image to reflect on. How can you hate this woman?




I can't.

All billionaires to the wall, even the sweet old ladies.

[Yogi da Bear]

Sometimes I think you have to have a bit of disembodiment to hate. It's harder to hate when you have an actual image to reflect on. How can you hate this woman?




I can't.

Because she looks like the damn Emperor from Star Wars for starters.

Wow, you certainly do have issues with ownership TMP. Tell me, did you love them in '86?

[G08]

Because she looks like the damn Emperor from Star Wars for starters.

Wow, you certainly do have issues with ownership TMP. Tell me, did you love them in '86?

Pretty sure he loved Ditka in 69

[Arkansasbear]

Saquon will clear 14per at least, IMO.

I’m out