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Broncos To Prioritize Re-Signing Dre’Mont Jones; Alex Singleton On Radar To Stay?
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A week away from the deadline to apply tags, Renck adds Broncos-Jones talks have not generated much progress (Twitter link). Jones, 26, stacks up as a fringe tag candidate but more likely can be classified as a player the Broncos want to keep but not tag. That said, the Broncos will consider it with Jones, Mike Klis of 9News tweets.
I don't think Denver has much cap space but teams do seem to be able to manufacture space whenever it becomes important.
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dave99 wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:09 am
I don't think Denver has much cap space but teams do seem to be able to manufacture space whenever it becomes important.
Well, Sean Payton is from the Mickey Loomis school of Cap Management, so I would say the cap won't stand in their way of what they want to do. Or cash, with the Wal-Mart money there.
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Jones made some comments during the season that didn't give Broncos fans a warm and fuzzy about his future with the franchise.

Here's the link: https://www.si.com/nfl/broncos/news/dre ... ng-broncos
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Yep - Question is : Will they tag him - otherwise he'd be foolish to not at least see what the market is
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RichH55 wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:42 pm Yep - Question is : Will they tag him - otherwise he'd be foolish to not at least see what the market is
I think the tag number is over $18MM
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He's one I've been hoping makes it to FA for a long time now.
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wulfy wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:07 pm
RichH55 wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:42 pm Yep - Question is : Will they tag him - otherwise he'd be foolish to not at least see what the market is
I think the tag number is over $18MM
That strikes me as too high for them - though I wouldn't say it with certainty (like I was with Payne being Tagged)

And if they dont tag him - the price tag goes up
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wulfy wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 6:17 pm
"He’s gonna hit the market"

Well that's telling.
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I prefer Hargrave
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dplank wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 7:12 pm I prefer Hargrave
If we were contending this year, sure.

But based on this team’s window, I’ll take the 26 year old over the 30 year old.
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wulfy wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 8:13 pm
dplank wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 7:12 pm I prefer Hargrave
If we were contending this year, sure.

But based on this team’s window, I’ll take the 26 year old over the 30 year old.
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wulfy wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 8:13 pm
dplank wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 7:12 pm I prefer Hargrave
If we were contending this year, sure.

But based on this team’s window, I’ll take the 26 year old over the 30 year old.
I figure most feel this way. Personally I don’t look past 4 years on a FA contract so it doesn’t matter much to me. And Hargrave is the more proven player, I get nervous spending top $$ on a player that hasn’t arrived fully yet.
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Depends on the deal, and the plan.
Hargrave has hit his ceiling but can help younger players develop their game, Jones has more potential improvement.

Why not both?
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Poles' negotiating strategy with Dre'Mont:
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dplank wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:31 pm
wulfy wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 8:13 pm

If we were contending this year, sure.

But based on this team’s window, I’ll take the 26 year old over the 30 year old.
I figure most feel this way. Personally I don’t look past 4 years on a FA contract so it doesn’t matter much to me. And Hargrave is the more proven player, I get nervous spending top $$ on a player that hasn’t arrived fully yet.
Hargrave was a 4.5 sack a year guy until this season. I worry about paying for a 30yr old who may never reach that level of performance again.
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wab wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:07 am
dplank wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:31 pm

I figure most feel this way. Personally I don’t look past 4 years on a FA contract so it doesn’t matter much to me. And Hargrave is the more proven player, I get nervous spending top $$ on a player that hasn’t arrived fully yet.
Hargrave was a 4.5 sack a year guy until this season. I worry about paying for a 30yr old who may never reach that level of performance again.

That too - though he was always productive overall too - it wasn't like he leapt from being a nobody

But yeah - expecting the Sack numbers again is probably wishful thinking
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RichH55 wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:25 am
wab wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:07 am

Hargrave was a 4.5 sack a year guy until this season. I worry about paying for a 30yr old who may never reach that level of performance again.

That too - though he was always productive overall too - it wasn't like he leapt from being a nobody

But yeah - expecting the Sack numbers again is probably wishful thinking
I do like that his pressure rate and pass rush win % has remained consistent over the years, but getting home this much seems to be a fluke.
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DTs putting up big sack numbers (double digit) are almost like unicorns. Most are in or will be in the Hall of Fame. Someone getting 5 to 7 sacks but consistently putting pressure on the QB and crushing the run game will be more the norm.
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Is he a DE or DT? Is that just a typo in the tweet?
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dplank wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:14 pm Is he a DE or DT? Is that just a typo in the tweet?
He has played both. 6’3” 280-290. I would say 3 tech or heavy DE.

Could he be the bears next Akeem Hicks type, sign for a good contract and blossom type player.

He is a serious upgrade to anything and still young.
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southdakbearfan wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:19 pm
dplank wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:14 pm Is he a DE or DT? Is that just a typo in the tweet?
He has played both. 6’3” 280-290. I would say 3 tech or heavy DE.

Could he be the bears next Akeem Hicks type, sign for a good contract and blossom type player.

He is a serious upgrade to anything and still young.
He played DE and DT in Denver's 3-4. I'm imagine he's the 3T if the Bears sign him. I think it'll be a better position for him in this defense plus Flus and Poles like tall rangy DEs.
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From what I have heard Jones can play the 3T , 1T and " heavy end" . He, or Hardgraves and whoever the target is for RT has to be day one signs right?
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rtd wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:28 pm From what I have heard Jones can play the 3T , 1T and " heavy end" . He, or Hardgraves and whoever the target is for RT has to be day one signs right?
That’s where I’m at too rtd.

We need 2 on the D line and at least one on the O line.

I’d be happy with a C and a G (cut Whitehair) too.
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