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Per Bleacher report but when I post the link, it won't show up.


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What do you call an OC who doesn’t call plays?
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Ditka’s dictaphone wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:15 pm What do you call an OC who doesn’t call plays?
Ostensible Coordinator?
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Moriarty wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:22 pm
Ditka’s dictaphone wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:15 pm What do you call an OC who doesn’t call plays?
Ostensible Coordinator?
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Moriarty wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:22 pm
Ditka’s dictaphone wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:15 pm What do you call an OC who doesn’t call plays?
Ostensible Coordinator?
Eric Bienemy?
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I have been in Corporate America for over 20 years. I have seen the dumbest people get promoted. The ass kisser. The diversity promotion. The nepotism promotion. The hot chick get promoted. You name it, there's a decent chance I've seen it.

Now this. The Chiefs deserve whatever they get.

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Him being Fake OC isn't going to hurt them any.


But if he gets the HC job when Reid leaves, or somewhere else...that's when the (fun/pain) starts, depending on your perspective.
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bearsoldier wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:45 am
That picture reminds me of this....

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Moriarty wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:59 am Him being Fake OC isn't going to hurt them any.


But if he gets the HC job when Reid leaves, or somewhere else...that's when the (fun/pain) starts, depending on your perspective.
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I bear him no ill will personally. It didn’t work out here in Chicago, I’ve moved on
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I bear him no good will personally
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dplank wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:41 pm I bear him no ill will personally. It didn’t work out here in Chicago, I’ve moved on
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Wait - when did you move to Chicago? You've got a bunch of us thinking your home is Florida.

You can't be living in two places at once so which is it?

Second home up north? - or did you actually relocate to Illinois?

Well?

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I do not live in Chicago, I live in West Palm Beach. I would still write that post the same way because I’m speaking as a Bears fan. I suppose I could have said "here with The Bears" instead? Nice to see the troll didn’t fall far from the tree , odd post even for you.

Do you live in Chicago? And if so, which retirement home?
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I have no ill will for him either. I'm probably still more upset over Trestman than I ever will be about Nagy.
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wab wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:28 am I have no ill will for him either. I'm probably still more upset over Trestman than I ever will be about Nagy.

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Trestman was brought in for Offensive expertise, which he had
Nagy was brought in for Offensive expertise, which he didn't have
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Moriarty wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:36 am
wab wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:28 am I have no ill will for him either. I'm probably still more upset over Trestman than I ever will be about Nagy.

?
Trestman was brought in for Offensive expertise, which he had
Nagy was brought in for Offensive expertise, which he didn't have
I suspect the Trestman issue is largely who he was chosen over.

But still. Ten years ago.
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Moriarty wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:36 am
wab wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:28 am I have no ill will for him either. I'm probably still more upset over Trestman than I ever will be about Nagy.

?
Trestman was brought in for Offensive expertise, which he had
Nagy was brought in for Offensive expertise, which he didn't have
Did he have offensive expertise, though? His answer towards the end for every 3rd and long was a WR screen that went for 2 yards. He was and is a glorified motivational speaker that never really learned a second trick.

Beyond that though, I believe that Nagy still had the locker room til the end, whereas Trestman was basically Milhouse's dad getting fired from the cracker factory.

I'm 100% with WAB on this, though I think it's partially because Trestman was where Bear's fatigue finally overcame my fandom, and failures from that point on just dont hurt as much when you cant really be hurt anymore.
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RustinFields wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:53 am
Moriarty wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:36 am


?
Trestman was brought in for Offensive expertise, which he had
Nagy was brought in for Offensive expertise, which he didn't have
Did he have offensive expertise, though? His answer towards the end for every 3rd and long was a WR screen that went for 2 yards. He was and is a glorified motivational speaker that never really learned a second trick.

Beyond that though, I believe that Nagy still had the locker room til the end, whereas Trestman was basically Milhouse's dad getting fired from the cracker factory.

I'm 100% with WAB on this, though I think it's partially because Trestman was where Bear's fatigue finally overcame my fandom, and failures from that point on just dont hurt as much when you cant really be hurt anymore.
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Bravo on the Millhouse's Dad reference

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wab wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:02 am
RustinFields wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:53 am

Did he have offensive expertise, though? His answer towards the end for every 3rd and long was a WR screen that went for 2 yards. He was and is a glorified motivational speaker that never really learned a second trick.

Beyond that though, I believe that Nagy still had the locker room til the end, whereas Trestman was basically Milhouse's dad getting fired from the cracker factory.

I'm 100% with WAB on this, though I think it's partially because Trestman was where Bear's fatigue finally overcame my fandom, and failures from that point on just dont hurt as much when you cant really be hurt anymore.
Yes

Trestman was just the most visible target for hatred/rage/apathy/disgust/whatever.
The problem was bad management choices:
Keeping Lovie too long after he'd clearly shown what he was.
Bringing in an Offensive Guru to "win before the window closes on the defense" after the window had already closed on the defense
Hiring arguably the worst GM the Bears have ever had


If everyone of defense was magically 2 years younger when Trestman got there, he could have done something.
If they had rebuilt around Trestman and he was allowed to axe the Malcontent Assholes Angry About Lovie's Departure that he was forced to keep, he maybe could have done something.
Trying to win with washed up prima donnas , nobody could have done anything with.


Trestman took a former R3 QB who'd bounced around with no real success anywhere, played in the UFL, then was out of football, and turned him into a 109 rated QB (with no talent around him, as the Cutler apologists always claimed) who became wealthy and fairly sought after.
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If I had known I was going to read Marc Trestman apologia today, I never would have gotten out of bed.
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dplank wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:22 am I do not live in Chicago, I live in West Palm Beach. I would still write that post the same way because I’m speaking as a Bears fan. I suppose I could have said "here with The Bears" instead? Nice to see the troll didn’t fall far from the tree , odd post even for you.

Do you live in Chicago? And if so, which retirement home?

"Here in Chicago" means you are posting from Chicago, which you are not. I neither live in Chicago nor have I implied that I do, as you have.

When you post things that folks know to be untrue, it hurts your credibility and sounds a lot like BS.
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Oh Pus c'mon. I haven't lived in Chicago in 20 years but it'll always be right here with me (specifically in my arteries, restricting blood flow).
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pus wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 3:17 pm
dplank wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:22 am I do not live in Chicago, I live in West Palm Beach. I would still write that post the same way because I’m speaking as a Bears fan. I suppose I could have said "here with The Bears" instead? Nice to see the troll didn’t fall far from the tree , odd post even for you.

Do you live in Chicago? And if so, which retirement home?

"Here in Chicago" means you are posting from Chicago, which you are not. I neither live in Chicago nor have I implied that I do, as you have.

When you post things that folks know to be untrue, it hurts your credibility and sounds a lot like BS.
This is a weird argument.
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Part and parcel for Rich Sr. I must have eaten his last Werthers or something.
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Apparently Chiefs head coach Andy Reid said he chose former Bears head coach Matt Nagy as his offensive coordinator after interviewing Pep Hamilton and Marcus Brady for the job.
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