I noticed him as well - liked him better than the Tenn kid too
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I like Bergeron too. He's a more athletic Borom.thunderspirit wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:45 pmBergeron? Yup, he's pretty good.
I like both of the Oklahoma tackles too. Harrison has great fluidity in his movement, and Morris resembles Braxton Jones build-wise.
I also like the Oklahoma guys. Harrison reminds me a little bit of Leatherwood. Is he a guard? As a tackle, Morris might be the better prospect of the two. His arms are loooooooooong.
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What does anybody know about Joe TIppmann the center from Wisconsin? He was listed as a "freak" heading into the Combine but didn't perform any of the drills there. He's listed at 6'6", 313. Wonder why he didn't at least do the bench?
As to Freeland, he certainly jumped out of the room at the Combine, literally. He seems to have all the physical qualities that Poles is looking for: tall at 6'8" with nearly 34" arms, agile..., but he sure seemed to struggle with inside moves at the Senior Bowl. On the plus side, if you sign McGlinchey as RT and draft Freeland as a developmental RT, you'd know that Jenkins could cover Freeland for inside moves. Also, Freeland could provide competition for Braxton Jones at LT.
Just a thought.
As to Freeland, he certainly jumped out of the room at the Combine, literally. He seems to have all the physical qualities that Poles is looking for: tall at 6'8" with nearly 34" arms, agile..., but he sure seemed to struggle with inside moves at the Senior Bowl. On the plus side, if you sign McGlinchey as RT and draft Freeland as a developmental RT, you'd know that Jenkins could cover Freeland for inside moves. Also, Freeland could provide competition for Braxton Jones at LT.
Just a thought.
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I like Tippman quite a bit - I don't think we are drafting a C as a starter for this year (as I've said, everything I've heard is that the Front Office still really Lucas Patrick and would like to seem him healthy) but more so to groom for '24 as his contract is up after this year.
It's why I see C in the 3rd/4th round versus JMS in the second. I think an exception could be Cody Mauch in the 2nd who many people feel has 5 position versatility.
It's why I see C in the 3rd/4th round versus JMS in the second. I think an exception could be Cody Mauch in the 2nd who many people feel has 5 position versatility.
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Wulfy - our 2nds aren't super far away from our 3rdwulfy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:57 am I like Tippman quite a bit - I don't think we are drafting a C as a starter for this year (as I've said, everything I've heard is that the Front Office still really Lucas Patrick and would like to seem him healthy) but more so to groom for '24 as his contract is up after this year.
It's why I see C in the 3rd/4th round versus JMS in the second. I think an exception could be Cody Mauch in the 2nd who many people feel has 5 position versatility.
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I have 15 prospects at OT (preferred RT), 7 prospects at OC, and 4 tweener OL that I like in this draft.
Three guys I really like at OT for us are Broderick Jones, Anton Harrison, and Darnell Wright. However, I do have Paris Johnson ahead of them, only because I think he is the best LT among the OT's.
At center, the top three seem to be the same no matter where you look, but I think Ricky Stromberg and Alex Forsyth are not too far behind them.
Where I am a bit confused is with my tweeners, who could be RT or OC guys but would be excellent OG prospects as well. Just not sure we need OG in this draft. One of my favorite lineman was Andrew Vorhees, who got injured at the combine and won't play next year. bIf he's available late in the draft, I'd take and stash him for my LG of the future.
Here's my rankings:
OT
1. Paris Johnson, Jr., OSU
2. Broderick Jones, Georgia
3. Anton Harrison, OU
4. Peter Skoronski, NW
5. Darnell Wright, TN
6. Matthew Bergeron, Syracuse
7. Blake Freeland, BYU
8. Wanya Morris, OU
9. Luke Haggard, Indiana
10. Ryan Hayes, UM
11. Jason Kirkland, UW
12. Curtis McClendon, TN-Chatt
13. Richard Gouraige, FL
14. John Ojukwu, BSU
15. Earl Bostic, Jr., Kansas
OC
1. John Michael Schmitz, MN
2. Joe Tippmann, Wisc
3. Luke Wypler, OSU
4. Ricky Stromberg, Ark
5. Alex Forsyth, Oregon
6. Olusesun Oluwatimi, UM
7. Lequinston Sharp, Miss St
Tweeners
1. Andrew Vorhees, OG/RT, USC
2. Cody Mauch, OL, NDSU
3. Braeden Daniels, OG/RT, Utah
4. Atonio Mafi, OG/RT, UCLA
Three guys I really like at OT for us are Broderick Jones, Anton Harrison, and Darnell Wright. However, I do have Paris Johnson ahead of them, only because I think he is the best LT among the OT's.
At center, the top three seem to be the same no matter where you look, but I think Ricky Stromberg and Alex Forsyth are not too far behind them.
Where I am a bit confused is with my tweeners, who could be RT or OC guys but would be excellent OG prospects as well. Just not sure we need OG in this draft. One of my favorite lineman was Andrew Vorhees, who got injured at the combine and won't play next year. bIf he's available late in the draft, I'd take and stash him for my LG of the future.
Here's my rankings:
OT
1. Paris Johnson, Jr., OSU
2. Broderick Jones, Georgia
3. Anton Harrison, OU
4. Peter Skoronski, NW
5. Darnell Wright, TN
6. Matthew Bergeron, Syracuse
7. Blake Freeland, BYU
8. Wanya Morris, OU
9. Luke Haggard, Indiana
10. Ryan Hayes, UM
11. Jason Kirkland, UW
12. Curtis McClendon, TN-Chatt
13. Richard Gouraige, FL
14. John Ojukwu, BSU
15. Earl Bostic, Jr., Kansas
OC
1. John Michael Schmitz, MN
2. Joe Tippmann, Wisc
3. Luke Wypler, OSU
4. Ricky Stromberg, Ark
5. Alex Forsyth, Oregon
6. Olusesun Oluwatimi, UM
7. Lequinston Sharp, Miss St
Tweeners
1. Andrew Vorhees, OG/RT, USC
2. Cody Mauch, OL, NDSU
3. Braeden Daniels, OG/RT, Utah
4. Atonio Mafi, OG/RT, UCLA
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Nice, @Hoog.
PJJ, Wright, Jones, Harrison, Bergeron, and Morris are respectively my top tackles. (I have Skoronski at G that could potentially convert to C.) Freeland is likely a Day 2 pick, and it's hard to argue with the athleticism and tools, but he's just such a mess skill-wise right now and you have to hope you can coach some of that out of him. My list of Day 3 guys include Warren McClendon, Earl Bostick Jr, and John Ojukwu (the latter two actually older than Braxton Jones, if you can believe it). Also Nick Saldiveri (whom I'd try at RT first after 34 starts there in college, and then kick inside if that doesn't work) and Malaesala Aumavae-Laulu, whom I think can stick at tackle in the pros. From your list, I can't say I'm a Haggard fan — but Aumavae-Laulu might be my version of him, you know?
— and I think Hayes, Gouraige, and Curtis (it's McClendon Curtis, incidentally, not the other way around) are playing inside at the next level.
I'm fairly upbeat on Stromberg myself, and also rank him as a Day 3 guy just behind the top 3 at C (JMS, Tippmann, and Wypler). I have Jon Gaines II there too — I think he's a C who can play G, not a G who can play C. I see both Forsyth and Oluwatimi as late Day 3-UDFA types; I add Juice Scruggs and Jarrett Patterson to that last group too.
I see Mauch as a strictly inside guy, but I think he'll transition there very well. I also view Braeden Daniels, Tyler Steen, and (maybe) Nick Broeker as potential super-sub guys who might be able to grab and hold a starting job, though I think they'd be the sort you'd always want to replace with someone better.
PJJ, Wright, Jones, Harrison, Bergeron, and Morris are respectively my top tackles. (I have Skoronski at G that could potentially convert to C.) Freeland is likely a Day 2 pick, and it's hard to argue with the athleticism and tools, but he's just such a mess skill-wise right now and you have to hope you can coach some of that out of him. My list of Day 3 guys include Warren McClendon, Earl Bostick Jr, and John Ojukwu (the latter two actually older than Braxton Jones, if you can believe it). Also Nick Saldiveri (whom I'd try at RT first after 34 starts there in college, and then kick inside if that doesn't work) and Malaesala Aumavae-Laulu, whom I think can stick at tackle in the pros. From your list, I can't say I'm a Haggard fan — but Aumavae-Laulu might be my version of him, you know?

I'm fairly upbeat on Stromberg myself, and also rank him as a Day 3 guy just behind the top 3 at C (JMS, Tippmann, and Wypler). I have Jon Gaines II there too — I think he's a C who can play G, not a G who can play C. I see both Forsyth and Oluwatimi as late Day 3-UDFA types; I add Juice Scruggs and Jarrett Patterson to that last group too.
I see Mauch as a strictly inside guy, but I think he'll transition there very well. I also view Braeden Daniels, Tyler Steen, and (maybe) Nick Broeker as potential super-sub guys who might be able to grab and hold a starting job, though I think they'd be the sort you'd always want to replace with someone better.
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dplank wrote:I agree with Rich here

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Another player breakdown from Bearlissimo:
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