Bears sign QB PJ Walker
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I like this signing, but I'm just gonna keep pleading for some fatties on both sides of the ball
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I was gonna joke about getting out Kirkland brand Justin Fields, but surprisingly pj doesn't ever really run.
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Neither did Fields really until he got behind a Swiss cheese line. PJ isn't Fields fast but he's at least a Mahomes like athlete. I think he could move if needed, designed.RustinFields wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:11 pm I was gonna joke about getting out Kirkland brand Justin Fields, but surprisingly pj doesn't ever really run.
Been a PJ fan for a while. Wanted him after the XFL when it was clear Mitch wasn't the guy and wanted a lotto ticket.
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He's got an arm
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I would imagine semian is a goner now.
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I wouldn't bet on it; Walker's numbers suck.
3 year career:
- 15 games (7 starts)
- 228 attempts/131 completions (57.5%)
- 1,461 yards (6.4 per attempt)
- 5 TD
- 11 INT
- 63.9 passer rating
- 6 games (5 starts)
- 106 attempts/63 completions (59.4%)
- 731 yards (6.9 per attempt)
- 3 TD
- 3 INT
- 78.0 rating
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I think Poles is just rearranging the deck chairs to let us know he's still alive.
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Is this an upgrade at backup QB? A 2 year, $5M deal is fine and the Bears can save almost $2m this year with a Trevor Simeon release.
Just not sure if this guy will bring the qb room more than Simeon.
Just not sure if this guy will bring the qb room more than Simeon.
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I think he gives us the ability to run the offense we are trying to run with Fields. Simeon doesn't appear to have the same skillset. I think there is a rule coming where teams will be able to add a QB (3 total) for a 54 man roster (i definitely could be wrong at that). If so, then we can still add someone else to make it even better. But, I like Walker.
I wish the NFL would purchase the USFL and XFL and make it to where backup QB's are on a roster and and all practice squad players or something. Walker is definitely an example of a guy who proved he could benefit from it. I think the kid playing for the DC Defenders is another one who will benefit possibly.
I wish the NFL would purchase the USFL and XFL and make it to where backup QB's are on a roster and and all practice squad players or something. Walker is definitely an example of a guy who proved he could benefit from it. I think the kid playing for the DC Defenders is another one who will benefit possibly.
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Simeon is terrible and overpaid so saving money makes it an upgrade in my eyes. If Fields goes down the team's fucked anyways.
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He's got like 6 higher picks for fatties. I do kind of like idea/strategy of building the trenches through the draft & saving the dollars for the skill positions.The Cooler King wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:09 pm I like this signing, but I'm just gonna keep pleading for some fatties on both sides of the ball
There are some extensions coming up that could eat most of Poles' remaining budget this year, if he front-loads them like he should. So Kmet needs to be paid, JJ probably as well. And then shouldn't he carry a good amount into the season so he can front load whoever of Mooney or Pool he wants to extend in-season?
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There goes Poles again, throwing around them nickels like they were manhole covers.
Skill set not at all like Fields, just what the Bears need at backup QB.
Skill set not at all like Fields, just what the Bears need at backup QB.
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From Walker's Twitter:
Someone needs to put him in touch with Jalen Carter.
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Kinda like this signing. I think Trevor is more of a QB coach at this point.
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A passable backup who has played with DJ Moore in case JF gets hurt.
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Greg Gabriel seems convinced they're going with 3 QBs, but I tend to think he's stuck in 1998.
Maybe NFL will come out with a emergency QB rule that basically requires 3 real QBs though.
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If you're going to have 3 QBs then the third should always be a young developmental prospect and if at the end of the year you're not convinced he's going to amount to anything then move on to the next one. There is zero point having two veteran back ups who you know have hit their ceiling. You might occasionally get lucky with a youngster.
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1. Gabriel is frustrating. Guy knows football and has some good ideas, but the league also left him behind 10-15 years ago and he's been reluctant to adapt his ideals. Plus he says a ton of stupid shit on twitter.The Cooler King wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:30 amGreg Gabriel seems convinced they're going with 3 QBs, but I tend to think he's stuck in 1998.
Maybe NFL will come out with a emergency QB rule that basically requires 3 real QBs though.
2. The NFL will almost certainly make an emergency quarterback roster exception at some point, but honestly it's such a rare necessity. The NFL shouldn't make have 3 game-ready quarterbacks a priority when they're already bending every rule and making new informal allowances to protect quarterbacks.
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UOK wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:36 amThe Cooler King wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:30 am
Greg Gabriel seems convinced they're going with 3 QBs, but I tend to think he's stuck in 1998.
Maybe NFL will come out with a emergency QB rule that basically requires 3 real QBs though.
2. The NFL will almost certainly make an emergency quarterback roster exception at some point, but honestly it's such a rare necessity. The NFL shouldn't make have 3 game-ready quarterbacks a priority when they're already bending every rule and making new informal allowances to protect quarterbacks.
I thought someone said somewhere that a new rule was under consideration(?)
Sure, it's rare that you get down to your 3rd QB. But it's also so pointlessly stupid for virtually every team to have a 3rd on the PS, but they can't come in if necessary. Instead, every time a starter goes down, you have to scare the piss out of the poor TE who played QB in HS 8 years ago and have them start taking snaps or practicing throws just in case another happens.
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I think it's gonna come down to a monetary negotiation. If a guy has to be ready that's gonna be a gameday check.. And NFLPA won't want to take away other spots on the 53 or 46 active (with PS elevations) to ensure NFL gets an emergency QB in every game.Moriarty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:48 amUOK wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:36 am
2. The NFL will almost certainly make an emergency quarterback roster exception at some point, but honestly it's such a rare necessity. The NFL shouldn't make have 3 game-ready quarterbacks a priority when they're already bending every rule and making new informal allowances to protect quarterbacks.
I thought someone said somewhere that a new rule was under consideration(?)
Sure, it's rare that you get down to your 3rd QB. But it's also so pointlessly stupid for virtually every team to have a 3rd on the PS, but they can't come in if necessary. Instead, every time a starter goes down, you have to scare the piss out of the poor TE who played QB in HS 8 years ago and have them start taking snaps or practicing throws just in case another happens.
So the only solution to me is to make a de-facto 54 man roster, but the 54th spot must be on a QB. The old school emergency QB rules apply unless you use him on the 46 active.
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The Cooler King wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:54 amI think it's gonna come down to a monetary negotiation. If a guy has to be ready that's gonna be a gameday check.. And NFLPA won't want to take away other spots on the 53 or 46 active (with PS elevations) to ensure NFL gets an emergency QB in every game.Moriarty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:48 am
I thought someone said somewhere that a new rule was under consideration(?)
Sure, it's rare that you get down to your 3rd QB. But it's also so pointlessly stupid for virtually every team to have a 3rd on the PS, but they can't come in if necessary. Instead, every time a starter goes down, you have to scare the piss out of the poor TE who played QB in HS 8 years ago and have them start taking snaps or practicing throws just in case another happens.
So the only solution to me is to make a de-facto 54 man roster, but the 54th spot must be on a QB. The old school emergency QB rules apply unless you use him on the 46 active.
Why not just treat the 3rd QB like PS elevation rules? If they go into a game, it's an elevation to the roster, you get a minimum wage check for that week instead of your usual PS one, and then after the game you revert to the PS?
The only real distinction is dressing for games and traveling to road games. That's not that arduous, but let's say you negotiate into the next CBA that this special QB PS spot has a minimum salary of double the usual PS pay.
If you're a fringe QB, what's not to like about getting twice as much as before and a slightly higher chance to get into a game in exchange for 8 flights a year?
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Very inconsistent QB, who will add excitement then shoot you in the foot. Jate his completion percentage, interception ratios, and the fact he's short. Does kind of fit what we are doing with Fields offensively though. Not my favorite signing. Kinda wanted Nick Mullins instead.
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Well the issue with the current elevation rule is that it's limited how many times you can use it on a guy and protect him. So you'd presumably create a special QB only elevation that can be used all 18 weeks, but at that point it is a de facto 54 man anyways. Like, other than some injury protection stuff perhaps, their pay would be the same as a minimum rostered guy.Moriarty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:07 amThe Cooler King wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:54 am
I think it's gonna come down to a monetary negotiation. If a guy has to be ready that's gonna be a gameday check.. And NFLPA won't want to take away other spots on the 53 or 46 active (with PS elevations) to ensure NFL gets an emergency QB in every game.
So the only solution to me is to make a de-facto 54 man roster, but the 54th spot must be on a QB. The old school emergency QB rules apply unless you use him on the 46 active.
Why not just treat the 3rd QB like PS elevation rules? If they go into a game, it's an elevation to the roster, you get a minimum wage check for that week instead of your usual PS one, and then after the game you revert to the PS?
The only real distinction is dressing for games and traveling to road games. That's not that arduous, but let's say you negotiate into the next CBA that this special QB PS spot has a minimum salary of double the usual PS pay.
If you're a fringe QB, what's not to like about getting twice as much as before and a slightly higher chance to get into a game in exchange for 8 flights a year?
If the guy is dressing that's a gameday check. I know it's it much to put in pads and tights, but the union needs to draw hard lines like that.
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Well there goes the 3 QB discussion (probably)
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I've been saying that for a while. They should expand the roster one spot with it being reserved for the 3rd QB. They can't suit up unless one of the first 2 can't. That way teams have a third guy who is with the team the whole year. Typically when you go to your second QB it's a big drop off. But when the second guy gets hurt and you go with a guy that hasn't been with the team at all all year, it's like falling into the Grand Canyon. Even with this rule, I don't think teams will win many games with the 3rd QB, but at least their offense MIGHT not look like a complete joke.The Cooler King wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:30 amGreg Gabriel seems convinced they're going with 3 QBs, but I tend to think he's stuck in 1998.
Maybe NFL will come out with a emergency QB rule that basically requires 3 real QBs though.
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