ex-Bear Steelers

RustinFields · Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:23 pm

I vacillate on Watson pretty much daily. Lord knows he wasnt ever in a very stable situation either, and he definitely has more tools in his shed than Mitch does. Perhaps if he spent X amount of time LESS on the extra curriculars...

dplank · Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:10 pm

RustinFields wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:23 pm I vacillate on Watson pretty much daily. Lord knows he wasnt ever in a very stable situation either, and he definitely has more tools in his shed than Mitch does. Perhaps if he spent X amount of time LESS on the extra curriculars...

Yea I get it - the dude didn't play for over a year so I just don't know about him going forward as he clearly has issues. But he was a great player his first few years, and if I just isolate the discussion to that 2018 season only - I think Watson would have won us a Super Bowl. Watson threw for over 4100 yards that year, 26 TD's to 9 INT's, and had a QBR of over 103.

His 2020 year was insane (and that happened AFTER they traded away D Hopkins!) He threw for over 4800 yards (led the league), 33 TD's to 7 INT's, and had a QBR over 112! That was his last full season, I'm real curious to see how he looks next year.

I see the troll posted here, I assume he's degrading him because he got pantsed so bad on that 2020 season bet. He predicted he'd suck without Hopkins in 2020 then he went out and put up Aaron Rodgers numbers and Rich still couldn't admit he was wrong lol...

RustinFields · Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:49 pm

dplank wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:10 pm
RustinFields wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:23 pm I vacillate on Watson pretty much daily. Lord knows he wasnt ever in a very stable situation either, and he definitely has more tools in his shed than Mitch does. Perhaps if he spent X amount of time LESS on the extra curriculars...
Yea I get it - the dude didn't play for over a year so I just don't know about him going forward as he clearly has issues. But he was a great player his first few years, and if I just isolate the discussion to that 2018 season only - I think Watson would have won us a Super Bowl. Watson threw for over 4100 yards that year, 26 TD's to 9 INT's, and had a QBR of over 103.

I can buy that our 2018 team with more consistent offensive output could have easily gone all the way. And I also believe that Deshaun could have provided that output.

southdakbearfan · Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:15 pm

RustinFields wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:49 pm
dplank wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:10 pm

Yea I get it - the dude didn't play for over a year so I just don't know about him going forward as he clearly has issues. But he was a great player his first few years, and if I just isolate the discussion to that 2018 season only - I think Watson would have won us a Super Bowl. Watson threw for over 4100 yards that year, 26 TD's to 9 INT's, and had a QBR of over 103.

I can buy that our 2018 team with more consistent offensive output could have easily gone all the way. And I also believe that Deshaun could have provided that output.

I think with a kicker they could have.

RichH55 · Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:51 pm

dplank wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:10 pm
RustinFields wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:23 pm I vacillate on Watson pretty much daily. Lord knows he wasnt ever in a very stable situation either, and he definitely has more tools in his shed than Mitch does. Perhaps if he spent X amount of time LESS on the extra curriculars...
Yea I get it - the dude didn't play for over a year so I just don't know about him going forward as he clearly has issues. But he was a great player his first few years, and if I just isolate the discussion to that 2018 season only - I think Watson would have won us a Super Bowl. Watson threw for over 4100 yards that year, 26 TD's to 9 INT's, and had a QBR of over 103.

His 2020 year was insane (and that happened AFTER they traded away D Hopkins!) He threw for over 4800 yards (led the league), 33 TD's to 7 INT's, and had a QBR over 112! That was his last full season, I'm real curious to see how he looks next year.

I see the troll posted here, I assume he's degrading him because he got pantsed so bad on that 2020 season bet. He predicted he'd suck without Hopkins in 2020 then he went out and put up Aaron Rodgers numbers and Rich still couldn't admit he was wrong lol...

He wasn't great

He actually was worse record wise than like Brian Hoyer - the Texans had a good good Defense his first few years

And he lost a playoff game when he was gifted a multiple TD lead (special teams and defense)

Even in his best statistical year - they didn't score many points (even less so in the 1st half of games)

Just never elite

This year even worse without his Sexual Assault spinach

HurricaneBear · Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:07 am

RichH55 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:51 pm
dplank wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:10 pm

Yea I get it - the dude didn't play for over a year so I just don't know about him going forward as he clearly has issues. But he was a great player his first few years, and if I just isolate the discussion to that 2018 season only - I think Watson would have won us a Super Bowl. Watson threw for over 4100 yards that year, 26 TD's to 9 INT's, and had a QBR of over 103.

His 2020 year was insane (and that happened AFTER they traded away D Hopkins!) He threw for over 4800 yards (led the league), 33 TD's to 7 INT's, and had a QBR over 112! That was his last full season, I'm real curious to see how he looks next year.

I see the troll posted here, I assume he's degrading him because he got pantsed so bad on that 2020 season bet. He predicted he'd suck without Hopkins in 2020 then he went out and put up Aaron Rodgers numbers and Rich still couldn't admit he was wrong lol...
He wasn't great

He actually was worse record wise than like Brian Hoyer - the Texans had a good good Defense his first few years

And he lost a playoff game when he was gifted a multiple TD lead (special teams and defense)

Even in his best statistical year - they didn't score many points (even less so in the 1st half of games)

Just never elite

This year even worse without his Sexual Assault spinach

There is an enormous gap between "just never elite" and Mitch Trubisky. With Watson the Bears win that Super Bowl in 2018.

RichH55 · Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:21 pm

HurricaneBear wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:07 am
RichH55 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:51 pm

He wasn't great

He actually was worse record wise than like Brian Hoyer - the Texans had a good good Defense his first few years

And he lost a playoff game when he was gifted a multiple TD lead (special teams and defense)

Even in his best statistical year - they didn't score many points (even less so in the 1st half of games)

Just never elite

This year even worse without his Sexual Assault spinach
There is an enormous gap between "just never elite" and Mitch Trubisky. With Watson the Bears win that Super Bowl in 2018.

It was the token Mitch "good" year though - Mostly running that wasn't sustainable - and a Defense with a turnover rate that was unsustainable

Watson didn't win when he had Hopkins and a good Defense - and pretty good offensive coaching (Bill OBrien the GM was awful - but he was not a bad offensive coach)

The year before Watson got there they went 9-7 - And that's with Brock Osweiler and Tom "Macho Man" Savage playing QB

The year before that they went 9-7 - Granted they had the IMMORTAL Brian Hoyer playing QB

Watson got there 4-12

Playoff game - gifted 21-0 lead. Lost by a decent margin

There is no real evidence that Watson would have led us to the Super Bowl

The greatest thing he ever did for a team was the trade compensation (after making them a national disgrave)

Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:22 pm

So help me God I'm tired of hearing about Watson and Mitch.

RichH55 · Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:23 pm

wab wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:22 pm So help me God I'm tired of hearing about Watson and Mitch.

Watson is 23 times the criminal that Mitch is.... (Its actually infinity - but wheres the fun in that)

Moriarty · Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:45 pm

wab wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:22 pm So help me God I'm tired of hearing about Watson and Mitch.

We don't hear much talk about Cade or Rexy any more, so your time will come.

Just give it about 10-12 more years

RichH55 · Fri Mar 03, 2023 12:45 pm

Moriarty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 5:45 pm
wab wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:22 pm So help me God I'm tired of hearing about Watson and Mitch.

Just give it about 10-12 more years

I.E. What Watson should have got

RustinFields · Fri Mar 03, 2023 12:54 pm

HisRoyalSweetness · Thu May 18, 2023 4:18 pm

Steelers agree to two-year extension with backup QB Mitchell Trubisky
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The Steelers are finalizing a two-year extension with Mitchell Trubisky, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Thursday, per a source. The deal places Trubisky under team control through the 2025 season while lowering his 2023 cap number, which previously stood at $10 million, per Rapoport.
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It's clear now that Pickett is Pittsburgh's quarterback of the future. Trubisky isn't sticking around to compete for the starting job, but as the football world has learned on a number of occasions over the last decade, the backup quarterback remains a highly important member of the team and to its chances of success.

"We feel good about our quarterback room," Steelers general manager Omar Khan said told The Pat McAfee Show on Thursday. "That was an important piece. We've got, obviously Kenny Pickett is our starter. We feel really good about Mitch Trubisky in the role that he's in. He feels good about it."

The Steelers have seen enough from Trubisky to keep the former No. 2 overall pick on the roster beyond 2023 -- and give themselves some immediate cap flexibility.
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Full article: https://www.nfl.com/news/steelers-agree ... l-trubisky

HisRoyalSweetness · Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:39 am

The Steelers have cut ex-Bear Anthony Miller.

The Steelers have signed ex-Bear Nick Kwiatkoski.

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-news-round ... ay-june-20

dplank · Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:50 am

What a disappointing career for Miller. I really missed on that guy.

southdakbearfan · Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:59 am

dplank wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:50 am What a disappointing career for Miller. I really missed on that guy.

He seemed to have it, and then not have it all at the same time. Then shoulders made of glass kicked in.