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The Marshall Plan wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:40 am Gotta love using a high second round pick on a slot corner.

Good grief.
Yeah, I don't like that resource management.


Who does that?
Nobody, except for maybe a top team with very limited needs. Maybe.
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The NB in this defense is arguably the most important corner...
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To WAB's point, Flus's scheme does not blitz very often, so if you can be disruptive at all three CB positions, it gives your DL that extra second to get home with just four or five pass rushers. That's how this defense is designed.
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Bears rookies attend Cubs game at Wrigley Field

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Article: https://www.chicagobears.com/news/bears ... ssB3YhZ0kk
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Eberflus said Davis’ absence is not related to the season-ending ankle injury he suffered with the Tennessee Titans late last season.

“He’s just not here,” Eberflus said.
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Davis not showing up is really weird. Especially being new.
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Can we officially call the connection from Justin Fields to DJ Moore "The 1-2 Punch"?

Hahahaha!
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wab wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:53 pm Davis not showing up is really weird. Especially being new.
I don't like it. It adds legitimacy to the talk about Vrable hating him. This is not a "team first" move. I get that he has to uproot his family, but he's getting paid a lot of money to play football. Hire someone to take care of your personal affairs.
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Feelgood story of the day...


Roberts family grateful after receiving special gift from Bears

Cooper Roberts left Halas Hall Wednesday afternoon with a huge smile on his face, a wheelchair that can navigate sand and a whole bunch of new friends.

Almost a year ago, the eight-year-old boy was shot in the back by a gunman who killed seven people and injured dozens at a Fourth of July parade in Highland Park. Cooper's mother, Keely, was shot in the leg, and his twin brother, Luke, was hit by shrapnel.

Cooper was the most seriously injured of the three, paralyzed from the waist down when one of the bullets severed his spinal cord. He is in a wheelchair but hopes to walk again someday. He attends school as much as possible and undergoes some sort of rehabilitation at a Shirley Ryan Ability Lab every day.

Cooper loves swimming—he competes for an adaptive swim team at Shirley Ryan—and visiting the beach. But his regular wheelchair would get stuck in the sand. That's where the Bears and "Devices 4 the Disabled" joined forces Wednesday at Halas Hall to present Cooper with a wheelchair specifically made for the sand.
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Full article: https://www.chicagobears.com/news/rober ... from-bears
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Matt Eberflus's latest presser. Ignore the title, as encouraging as it is. Eberflus talks about a lot more than just Fields.

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A really good article about Dexter and what he's working on with the coaches at OTAs.
Gervon Dexter improving daily, but rebuild process will take time

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears ... -take-time
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RustinFields wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:33 pm
That's...a really nice pass... :o
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Heinz D. wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:36 pm
RustinFields wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:33 pm
That's...a really nice pass... :o
I bet #2 is pretty excited.
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Bears Whiskey Nut wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:25 pm
The Marshall Plan wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:40 am Gotta love using a high second round pick on a slot corner.

Good grief.
Don't care where he was picked. Most defenses are in Nickel like 70% of the time, so a solid CB at that position can make a huge impact.
Cost matters. What's your favorite steak place? Walk into McDonald's and pay that price for a Big Mac. That's what is happening here.

I doubt the intent of drafting Gordon was for him to be a slot corner. If it was, then that's a whole other problem.

Don't get me wrong. I hope Gordon becomes the best slot corner in the league. But we paid too much for it.
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Bears Whiskey Nut wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:57 pm Can we officially call the connection from Justin Fields to DJ Moore "The 1-2 Punch"?

Hahahaha!
I could go for that. The other one is 1 + 2 = 6.

But yeah, 1-2 Punch works. The motion is seconded and carried forward. :)
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The Marshall Plan wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 3:17 am
Bears Whiskey Nut wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 12:25 pm

Don't care where he was picked. Most defenses are in Nickel like 70% of the time, so a solid CB at that position can make a huge impact.
Cost matters. What's your favorite steak place? Walk into McDonald's and pay that price for a Big Mac. That's what is happening here.

I doubt the intent of drafting Gordon was for him to be a slot corner. If it was, then that's a whole other problem.

Don't get me wrong. I hope Gordon becomes the best slot corner in the league. But we paid too much for it.
CB is a premium position, I have zero issue with the cost here. You need 3 in todays game, not 2, as the offset is at the SAM backer spot. I’d be pissed if he spent a 2nd on a SAM.
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dplank wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 7:45 am
The Marshall Plan wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 3:17 am

Cost matters. What's your favorite steak place? Walk into McDonald's and pay that price for a Big Mac. That's what is happening here.

I doubt the intent of drafting Gordon was for him to be a slot corner. If it was, then that's a whole other problem.

Don't get me wrong. I hope Gordon becomes the best slot corner in the league. But we paid too much for it.
CB is a premium position, I have zero issue with the cost here. You need 3 in todays game, not 2

Sure, but premium position or not, you can't be spending big on the 3rd on the depth chart (and hope to field a decent team around them).

Look at some other premium positions and ask yourself what they spent to acquire.


DE: 2nd best starter is Gipson or Greene = R5 or 2.5M FA
OT: 2nd best starter is Jones = R5
WR (Granted, I don't think I'd consider it a premium position, but many do): slot (3rd) WR is Mooney (or Scott) = R5 (or R4)

At CB, the slot (3rd) corner was the LARGEST investment of the 3 corners (39 vs 50, 56). Again, who does that?
Without looking, I'll set the over/under at 2/31 other teams.
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The Marshall Plan wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 3:20 am
Bears Whiskey Nut wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:57 pm Can we officially call the connection from Justin Fields to DJ Moore "The 1-2 Punch"?

Hahahaha!
I could go for that. The other one is 1 + 2 = 6.

But yeah, 1-2 Punch works. The motion is seconded and carried forward. :)
This 'ol Grizz is officially adopting 1+2=6, love it.

I did like Whiskey's as well, but it was a 9 while Marshall's was a 10, I mean 6. In football 6 is best.
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dplank wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 7:45 am
The Marshall Plan wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 3:17 am

Cost matters. What's your favorite steak place? Walk into McDonald's and pay that price for a Big Mac. That's what is happening here.

I doubt the intent of drafting Gordon was for him to be a slot corner. If it was, then that's a whole other problem.

Don't get me wrong. I hope Gordon becomes the best slot corner in the league. But we paid too much for it.
CB is a premium position, I have zero issue with the cost here. You need 3 in todays game, not 2, as the offset is at the SAM backer spot. I’d be pissed if he spent a 2nd on a SAM.
This is spot on.
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Moriarty wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 9:12 am
dplank wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 7:45 am

CB is a premium position, I have zero issue with the cost here. You need 3 in todays game, not 2

Sure, but premium position or not, you can't be spending big on the 3rd on the depth chart (and hope to field a decent team around them).

Look at some other premium positions and ask yourself what they spent to acquire.


DE: 2nd best starter is Gipson or Greene = R5 or 2.5M FA
OT: 2nd best starter is Jones = R5
WR (Granted, I don't think I'd consider it a premium position, but many do): slot (3rd) WR is Mooney (or Scott) = R5 (or R4)

At CB, the slot (3rd) corner was the LARGEST investment of the 3 corners (39 vs 50, 56). Again, who does that?
Without looking, I'll set the over/under at 2/31 other teams.
I respectfully disagree.

Mainly on the 3rd on the Depth Chart thing - I just don't think thats how the position is valued or played in today's game - at best the 3rd on the depth chart is misleading IMHO
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Moriarty wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 3:46 pm
Eberflus said Davis’ absence is not related to the season-ending ankle injury he suffered with the Tennessee Titans late last season.

“He’s just not here,” Eberflus said.
That's a problem
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The Grizzly One wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:39 am Gawd dam Butkus has nothin ta do wit it.
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RichH55 wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:33 am
Moriarty wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 3:46 pm
That's a problem
Maybe.

But some people go to work, work hard, produce quality work, but DON'T ask them to work OT. (Blue collar perspective here.)

It's is in fact a red flag. Let's hope it's not a problem.
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RichH55 wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:32 am
Moriarty wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 9:12 am


Sure, but premium position or not, you can't be spending big on the 3rd on the depth chart (and hope to field a decent team around them).

Look at some other premium positions and ask yourself what they spent to acquire.


DE: 2nd best starter is Gipson or Greene = R5 or 2.5M FA
OT: 2nd best starter is Jones = R5
WR (Granted, I don't think I'd consider it a premium position, but many do): slot (3rd) WR is Mooney (or Scott) = R5 (or R4)

At CB, the slot (3rd) corner was the LARGEST investment of the 3 corners (39 vs 50, 56). Again, who does that?
Without looking, I'll set the over/under at 2/31 other teams.
I respectfully disagree.

Mainly on the 3rd on the Depth Chart thing - I just don't think thats how the position is valued or played in today's game - at best the 3rd on the depth chart is misleading IMHO

Certainly you can't compare 3rd CB on depth chart (who'll get plenty of snaps) to 3rd QB on depth chart (who will virtually never play).

But that's why I picked the comparisons I did.
3rd CB (barring injuries) will get ~70% of snaps
3rd WR will get maybe 60% of snaps (?)
2nd DE will get maybe 65% of snaps (?)
2nd OT will get 100% of snaps

Those are all roughly comparable value positions and comparable (or higher) number of snaps
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RustinFields wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:38 pm
FYI, this is worth watching to feel a bit better about jaylon missing ota's
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Moriarty wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:16 pm
RichH55 wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:32 am

I respectfully disagree.

Mainly on the 3rd on the Depth Chart thing - I just don't think thats how the position is valued or played in today's game - at best the 3rd on the depth chart is misleading IMHO

Certainly you can't compare 3rd CB on depth chart (who'll get plenty of snaps) to 3rd QB on depth chart (who will virtually never play).

But that's why I picked the comparisons I did.
3rd CB (barring injuries) will get ~70% of snaps
3rd WR will get maybe 60% of snaps (?)
2nd DE will get maybe 65% of snaps (?)
2nd OT will get 100% of snaps

Those are all roughly comparable value positions and comparable (or higher) number of snaps
On what team does the 2nd OT on the depth chart get 100% of the snaps?
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Five DBs is essentially your starting lineup in today's NFL.

I'm willing to spend a 2nd roud pick on essentially a starter 10 drafts out of 10.
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dplank wrote:I agree with Rich here
RichH55 wrote: Dplank is correct
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wab wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:46 pm
Moriarty wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:16 pm


Certainly you can't compare 3rd CB on depth chart (who'll get plenty of snaps) to 3rd QB on depth chart (who will virtually never play).

But that's why I picked the comparisons I did.
3rd CB (barring injuries) will get ~70% of snaps
3rd WR will get maybe 60% of snaps (?)
2nd DE will get maybe 65% of snaps (?)
2nd OT will get 100% of snaps

Those are all roughly comparable value positions and comparable (or higher) number of snaps
On what team does the 2nd OT on the depth chart get 100% of the snaps?
You play 2 , so 1st and 2nd OT should both get basically 100% of the snaps. Granted they will miss a few so maybe 95% is more factually accurate
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