R4 P115: Roschon Johnson, RB - Texas

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RustinFields wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 9:20 pm
I know people are going to see this and draw David Montgomery parallels. But I think RoJo has better vision than Monty.

I loved the dude, but I admittedly would get frustrated when he'd miss an open spot and slam into the back of a lineman instead.
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Really liked him coming out. But I think he is nothing more than a great football player, not necessarily a great RB. If he turns into another Montgomery-type back I will be happy.

Still think we will be drafting a RB next year.

But I am wrong.
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I heard his RB coach at Texas in an interview say, "No matter how good Bijan was, Roschon was the leader of our RB room."

That's a pretty solid endorsement right there.
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Look at that..Rojo up in the top right quadrant of the top righ5 quadrant. Impressive.
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it's some interesting company he's keeping in the top right quadrant. i'd be thrilled with a javonte williams, ettienne, or kenneth walker. but there's trey sermon, CEH, Bryce Love in his neignborhood too. /shrugs

funny to see former bears' legends ryan nall and trestan ebner just squeaking into the quadrant as well.
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RustinFields wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:30 am it's some interesting company he's keeping in the top right quadrant. i'd be thrilled with a javonte williams, ettienne, or kenneth walker. but there's trey sermon, CEH, Bryce Love in his neignborhood too. /shrugs

funny to see former bears' legends ryan nall and trestan ebner just squeaking into the quadrant as well.

Yep.
David Montgomery is fairly far in that direction, too.


Breaking tackles is nice and > than going down
But avoiding contact in the first place >>>>> having to try to break a tackle
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And good blocking >>>>>> elusiveness and power combined
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dplank wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:45 pm And good blocking >>>>>> elusiveness and power combined
My best friend is a huge seahawks fan and a big shaun alexander truther. he's told me more than once that he thinks he could have gotten 2000yds behind steve hutchinson and walter jones in 2005.
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RustinFields wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:05 am
dplank wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:45 pm And good blocking >>>>>> elusiveness and power combined
My best friend is a huge seahawks fan and a big shaun alexander truther. he's told me more than once that he thinks he could have gotten 2000yds behind steve hutchinson and walter jones in 2005.
No way he would have held up injury wise
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RichH55 wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:15 pm
RustinFields wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:05 am

My best friend is a huge seahawks fan and a big shaun alexander truther. he's told me more than once that he thinks he could have gotten 2000yds behind steve hutchinson and walter jones in 2005.
No way he would have held up injury wise
I'd peg him at 5'10" 165lbs, so prob not. We'd just have to extrapolate a full season after her gets Johnny Knox'd the first time he's tackled.
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RustinFields wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 1:21 pm
RichH55 wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:15 pm

No way he would have held up injury wise
I'd peg him at 5'10" 165lbs, so prob not. We'd just have to extrapolate a full season after her gets Johnny Knox'd the first time he's tackled.
Alexander was like 6ft 230 was he not?
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I mean my bff the Alexander truther
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He was on my short list at HB and I was regularly sim drafting him since January.

That said, I think people here were sleeping on him before the draft and have been overhyping him since.

He has lots of strong traits - leadership/character, hard running/tackle breaking, special teams contribution, pass pro.
But the lack of speed/agility is a serious limiting factor that won't go away.
He's very David Montgomery-like...who was taken in early 3 and generally viewed as an overdraft - at least in retrospect, if not sooner.
The idea the Bears have floated that he was a R2 quality prospect is nonsense. He doesn't have the college production track record (sure, being behind Bijan is no shame, but it still means you don't know about him being the man or having the durability). And he doesn't have the quality athleticism you'd like, either. He looks very much like a well-rounded backup or shared starter at the high end.

I don't think I would have gone as high as 115, but HB is one of the easiest positions to outplay a late draft ranking/selection, so it could work.
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