Braxton Jones Ejection?

[spudbear]

I'm still puzzled on what happened in the third quarter (IIRC) when Fields was running and pushed out of bounds. Jones went over to help him and started to argue with one of the Lion defenders. Then they showed Jones going to the bench and he was pissed-off. But no penalty. I could not tell if he went back in on that drive or not, but he did get back in the game.

Did the refs think he was misbehaving? Did they order him to take a "bench break"? The announcers pointed out what was happening but never did explain it. Do the refs have the authority to yank a player off the field without calling a penalty?

[wab]

I don’t know. I heard him say “I couldn’t fuckin see!” but I didn’t understand what all the fuss was about.

[wab]

Quick twitter search and it sounds like the ref pulled him for a concussion check but he had just gotten the turf pellets in his eyes and was fine. He had to go into the tent and missed two plays.

[Xee]

Thanks @wab. If true, that's the fire you want to see in your players.

[UOK]

Quick twitter search and it sounds like the ref pulled him for a concussion check but he had just gotten the turf pellets in his eyes and was fine. He had to go into the tent and missed two plays.

This right here.

[Shadow]

Braxtons fire is why he and Teven shoud be on the left side.

[HisRoyalSweetness]

Jones got a lot of questions about the situation today:



He basically said he was a little dizzy because he got up too quickly and just needed a few seconds but the officials insisted he go get checked for a concussion. His reaction was down to the emotions of the game and being caught between having to get off the field because the game clock was running and not wanting to come out. He apologised for that reaction too.

“I had rolled and tumbled and I just got up way too quick. Just got me a little dizzy. I just needed a second. The refs took me off. I was evaluated. I was completely fine, honestly. I just think I was tired, needed 10 seconds to gather myself, but we didn’t have 10 seconds — the play clock was going down."

“I knew I was fine — that’s kind of why I was frustrated. But no need to react like that, and I apologize for reacting like that. Just in the moment, I want to be out there for my teammates. Nothing was wrong with me. I got evaluated and was right back out there playing.”

[dplank]

I like his attitude, becoming a fan of his

[The Marshall Plan]

I like his attitude, becoming a fan of his

Right now we’ve got the 1 and 4 overall.

The 1 is simple. MHJ.

What about 4? If Alt or Fashanu are there, do you draft one?

Then what about Braxton Jones? LG?

You and Mr. Wab are making me think about wanting to do something else at 4 besides LT. I just have a hard time not drafting a franchise LT.

[HurricaneBear]

I like his attitude, becoming a fan of his

Right now we’ve got the 1 and 4 overall.

The 1 is simple. MHJ.

What about 4? If Alt or Fashanu are there, do you draft one?

Then what about Braxton Jones? LG?

You and Mr. Wab are making me think about wanting to do something else at 4 besides LT. I just have a hard time not drafting a franchise LT.

Pretty much where I've landed as well.

[The Marshall Plan]

Right now we’ve got the 1 and 4 overall.

The 1 is simple. MHJ.

What about 4? If Alt or Fashanu are there, do you draft one?

Then what about Braxton Jones? LG?

You and Mr. Wab are making me think about wanting to do something else at 4 besides LT. I just have a hard time not drafting a franchise LT.

Pretty much where I've landed as well.

What do you think we should do?

While we aren’t in the Make Braxton Jones Happy business I do think there’s value in looking at other positions.

At 4 we could probably get the best defensive prospect in the draft. Somebody like Dallas Turner or Jared Verse. I think a high quality DE prospect would do great playing opposite Sweat. Benefit from a lack of double teams.

I don’t believe(?) there’s a dominant 3T in this draft right?

Or, lol, really go for Super Duper Offense and draft Malik Nabors along with MHJ. Now that’s meant to be funny.

I don’t know. Think of an OL like this:

LT: Alt or Fashanu
LG: Jones
C: Van Pran
RG: Jenkins
RT: Wright.

Now THAT’S an OL.

[dplank]

I like his attitude, becoming a fan of his

Right now we’ve got the 1 and 4 overall.

The 1 is simple. MHJ.

What about 4? If Alt or Fashanu are there, do you draft one?

Then what about Braxton Jones? LG?

You and Mr. Wab are making me think about wanting to do something else at 4 besides LT. I just have a hard time not drafting a franchise LT.

Its s tough call, but my thought is take MHJr, then the other pick trade down and recapture that lost 2nd round pick, and take the BPA. An elite, young FS could radically change our secondary. Or, on the trade down, we may be in a more logical position to draft a top edge rusher that would be a reach at 4. Hell, even an elite TE prospect would be huge, as Kmet is more the Y type and frankly Tonyan has been a disappointment. You could roll out there with 2 stud WR's, and 2 stud TE's and play our 2 TE package, single back package all day long - with Justin's legs and all that deception available with an elite pass catching TE out there? The possibilites are endless.

It is hard to pass on a franchise LT though. Hence, why I think we'd get really strong value on the trade down.

[southdakbearfan]

Pretty much where I've landed as well.

What do you think we should do?

While we aren’t in the Make Braxton Jones Happy business I do think there’s value in looking at other positions.

At 4 we could probably get the best defensive prospect in the draft. Somebody like Dallas Turner or Jared Verse. I think a high quality DE prospect would do great playing opposite Sweat. Benefit from a lack of double teams.

I don’t believe(?) there’s a dominant 3T in this draft right?

Or, lol, really go for Super Duper Offense and draft Malik Nabors along with MHJ. Now that’s meant to be funny.

I don’t know. Think of an OL like this:

LT: Alt or Fashanu
LG: Jones
C: Van Pran
RG: Jenkins
RT: Wright.

Now THAT’S an OL.

If we were in that spot and keeping fields, I draft MHJ and then put the #4 up for sale. I think you could pick up at least a second and possibly another 3rd or 4th without dropping out of the top ten, and still snag a stud edge rusher. If a top qb falls maybe even a first next year and additional pick this year.

Braxton is too good to go using a first to replace him given the need at edge, WR, S, and CB.

I think they will chase C and DT hard in FA.

[dplank]

What do you think we should do?

While we aren’t in the Make Braxton Jones Happy business I do think there’s value in looking at other positions.

At 4 we could probably get the best defensive prospect in the draft. Somebody like Dallas Turner or Jared Verse. I think a high quality DE prospect would do great playing opposite Sweat. Benefit from a lack of double teams.

I don’t believe(?) there’s a dominant 3T in this draft right?

Or, lol, really go for Super Duper Offense and draft Malik Nabors along with MHJ. Now that’s meant to be funny.

I don’t know. Think of an OL like this:

LT: Alt or Fashanu
LG: Jones
C: Van Pran
RG: Jenkins
RT: Wright.

Now THAT’S an OL.

If we were in that spot and keeping fields, I draft MHJ and then put the #4 up for sale. I think you could pick up at least a second and possibly another 3rd or 4th without dropping out of the top ten, and still snag a stud edge rusher. If a top qb falls maybe even a first next year and additional pick this year.

Braxton is too good to go using a first to replace him given the need at edge, WR, S, and CB.

I think they will chase C and DT hard in FA.

Good call on CB. Seeing the emergence of both Gordon and Stevenson this year is making me re-think my JJ position. I was in favor of paying him for various reasons, but now I think we might be better off spending that money elsewhere and drafting another CB high. That 20M cost is steep, and could be used to buy an elite pass rusher instead. I gotta look at the upcoming FA class, but that's always shaky cause the best players often are taken off the market before FA begins...

[The Marshall Plan]

If we were in that spot and keeping fields, I draft MHJ and then put the #4 up for sale. I think you could pick up at least a second and possibly another 3rd or 4th without dropping out of the top ten, and still snag a stud edge rusher. If a top qb falls maybe even a first next year and additional pick this year.

Braxton is too good to go using a first to replace him given the need at edge, WR, S, and CB.

I think they will chase C and DT hard in FA.

Good call on CB. Seeing the emergence of both Gordon and Stevenson this year is making me re-think my JJ position. I was in favor of paying him for various reasons, but now I think we might be better off spending that money elsewhere and drafting another CB high. That 20M cost is steep, and could be used to buy an elite pass rusher instead. I gotta look at the upcoming FA class, but that's always shaky cause the best players often are taken off the market before FA begins...

Total agreement.

Spend that $20M on the DL all day long.

[wab]

I will repeat this as many times as needed. If the plan is to keep Fields, you draft MHJ with the first one and trade the next one. Jones has been an incredible find (I think he's the 7th ranked OT in the league right now) and there's no reason to draft a replacement.

If the Bears have 1 and 4, they have an opportunity to come away with MHJ and another bounty of picks. Keep stacking blue chip players.

[The Marshall Plan]

I will repeat this as many times as needed. If the plan is to keep Fields, you draft MHJ with the first one and trade the next one. Jones has been an incredible find (I think he's the 7th ranked OT in the league right now) and there's no reason to draft a replacement.

If the Bears have 1 and 4, they have an opportunity to come away with MHJ and another bounty of picks. Keep stacking blue chip players.

Who do you draft with the other pick even if you trade down?

[wab]

I will repeat this as many times as needed. If the plan is to keep Fields, you draft MHJ with the first one and trade the next one. Jones has been an incredible find (I think he's the 7th ranked OT in the league right now) and there's no reason to draft a replacement.

If the Bears have 1 and 4, they have an opportunity to come away with MHJ and another bounty of picks. Keep stacking blue chip players.

Who do you draft with the other pick even if you trade down?

Hard to say... a lot would depend on FA (and what defense is being played next year). For argument's sake, let's assume that Flus is retained and the Bears keep his defense.

If the Bears go HAM and sign Chris Jones and Brian Burns in FA then maybe with that 2nd pick I look at a DB or even another end since they like to rotate so much. An interior OL would be an option. Maybe the Bears think Cooper Beebe can play center (I do - he's played all 5 OL positions)? Maybe they think Van Pran is worth a pick in the teens (I don't)?

I truly believe that the Bears have a talented team and that coaching and consistency are holding this team back from competitiveness.

[Rusty Trombagent]

I will repeat this as many times as needed. If the plan is to keep Fields, you draft MHJ with the first one and trade the next one. Jones has been an incredible find (I think he's the 7th ranked OT in the league right now) and there's no reason to draft a replacement.

If the Bears have 1 and 4, they have an opportunity to come away with MHJ and another bounty of picks. Keep stacking blue chip players.

Who do you draft with the other pick even if you trade down?

I think I am kind of with you on this. The obsession with replacing our second rounder at the expense of a top ten player feels kind of silly at this point? Like, we've got a team full of promising role players, if we have the opportunity to draft two studs, that is what we need to take the next step.
This team is full of guys. We need dudes.

[southdakbearfan]

I will repeat this as many times as needed. If the plan is to keep Fields, you draft MHJ with the first one and trade the next one. Jones has been an incredible find (I think he's the 7th ranked OT in the league right now) and there's no reason to draft a replacement.

If the Bears have 1 and 4, they have an opportunity to come away with MHJ and another bounty of picks. Keep stacking blue chip players.

Who do you draft with the other pick even if you trade down?

There are quite a few very good DE prospects that should be there in the 6-12 range, I haven’t went into it deep enough to see if there is a worthy stud free safety ball hawk to replace the ghost of Jackson, but that sure couldn’t hurt either.

If they don’t sign JJ then stud corner is another option. Lineman are always an option as well as another WR or TE.

DT is said to be weak in the draft and C seems to be a crap shoot so I think those are the FA priority, possibly safety.

[LacertineForest]

If we end at #1 and #4, I'm trying to trade #1 to #2 first (assuming #2 is a QB-desperate team) and draft MHJ at #2. #4 - we'll see, but I might trade back on that depending on who's on the board and how far you move down.

[malk]

Who do you draft with the other pick even if you trade down?

I think I am kind of with you on this. The obsession with replacing our second rounder at the expense of a top ten player feels kind of silly at this point? Like, we've got a team full of promising role players, if we have the opportunity to draft two studs, that is what we need to take the next step.
This team is full of guys. We need dudes.

Agree that we're a bit light on difference makers but I'm not sure that linemen really fit that bill. The jump from a pretty good WR to an elite one is massive, I don't think the same applies to, say, a left tackle.

If the Panthers pick is #1 then I'd hope we could recoup a bit by trading down to #2 if the #2 team really has a preference at QB. Then MHJ with that pick, trade down from the #4 and go BPA at a position of relative need. 3T, edge, safety, center... maybe corner depending on how things play out. Even Will if there's someone who really fits the bill, Edward is definitely replaceable.

[o-pus #40 in B major]

I want Ryan Poles to emulate George Halas in 1965, okay? Get two super studs at positions of need with two picks in the top five.

And don't draft a QB when we've got two on the roster who can get the job done - get some better coaches.

That's all I ask.

[HurricaneBear]

Pretty much where I've landed as well.

What do you think we should do?

While we aren’t in the Make Braxton Jones Happy business I do think there’s value in looking at other positions.

At 4 we could probably get the best defensive prospect in the draft. Somebody like Dallas Turner or Jared Verse. I think a high quality DE prospect would do great playing opposite Sweat. Benefit from a lack of double teams.

I don’t believe(?) there’s a dominant 3T in this draft right?

Or, lol, really go for Super Duper Offense and draft Malik Nabors along with MHJ. Now that’s meant to be funny.

I don’t know. Think of an OL like this:

LT: Alt or Fashanu
LG: Jones
C: Van Pran
RG: Jenkins
RT: Wright.

Now THAT’S an OL.

Ive been so much on MHJ+Fashanu it a tough call. That OL you posted looks phenomenal.

If we do skip the franchise LT, honestly, my first thought went to Nabors and Super Duper Offense. Moore/MHJ/Nabors/Kmet/and these backs? YES PLEASE.

I think the right move is probably MHJ then trade down the next pick if possible. I could even be talked into defense after the trade down, although if it were me picking it would be Oline. Jones @ LT + a mid 1st round OL at LG I could get behind.

[dplank]

I think I am kind of with you on this. The obsession with replacing our second rounder at the expense of a top ten player feels kind of silly at this point? Like, we've got a team full of promising role players, if we have the opportunity to draft two studs, that is what we need to take the next step.
This team is full of guys. We need dudes.

Agree that we're a bit light on difference makers but I'm not sure that linemen really fit that bill. The jump from a pretty good WR to an elite one is massive, I don't think the same applies to, say, a left tackle.

If the Panthers pick is #1 then I'd hope we could recoup a bit by trading down to #2 if the #2 team really has a preference at QB. Then MHJ with that pick, trade down from the #4 and go BPA at a position of relative need. 3T, edge, safety, center... maybe corner depending on how things play out. Even Will if there's someone who really fits the bill, Edward is definitely replaceable.

This is the absolute ideal scenario IMO.

[The Marshall Plan]

In the event we trade down from 1 to 2, can it be done with a stipulation that a certain player be drafted at 1?

[southdakbearfan]

In the event we trade down from 1 to 2, can it be done with a stipulation that a certain player be drafted at 1?

I don’t believe it can be official but if a GM crawfished on someone doing that they would be locked out of trading by the rest of the nfl.

I am sure they get asked whom you are going after if we trade all the time.

[Teddy KGB]

Bully McGuire got to him.