Rusty Trombagent wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 5:31 pm
i was thinking about this today when i read this:
and thinking about all the patronizing bullshit that these qb's are about to go through.
Hm, I wonder if they're going to subject them to an "Augusta silence" while they throw deep shots, using the TrackMan radar system to record data like apex, ball speed, distance travelled and launch angle? Will they then give them scores generated by some indecipherable algorithm and provide feedback like "ball trajectory is a major concern" and "improve mph out of the hand"?
dplank wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:57 pm
New ESPN+ article placing the eligible QB's into Tiers for the upcoming draft. I won't violate the paywall but here's a snippet on CW:
and thinking about all the patronizing bullshit that these qb's are about to go through.
I can't honestly say I blame CW for his selectivity. When I've been job hunting there were those companies, positions, or situations I knew would not interest me or be a good fit so I've declined interviews before. If the Bears had not made it clear they were planning to draft him I'm certain he would've handled some things differently. And it's also apparent now much of the "negative press" was just like most years inaccurate.
Ranks him last in this article, and talks a fair amount about the crying incident (one for you, TMP)...
Scout 8: “He takes hits and gets up, and he’s handled a lot of pressure well. What makes him a four instead of a five for me in toughness is how he shows some disappointment with his body language. He buries his head in a towel and doesn’t always act the way you’d hope after the game.”
Well i'm sold. He is the next Cutler with more talent.
Ranks him last in this article, and talks a fair amount about the crying incident (one for you, TMP)...
At this point in time do we really care what yet another evaluation has to say? I believe some of the "old school" types like Greg Garbriel put more emphasis on that incident than others but as of today what does it matter? He's still gonna be the kid we draft and pin our hopes on. We know he'll spend the next four years being the Bears #1 QB and by them we'll know what we have or don't have.
This scout is objectively an idiot. A 9.95 subscription to PFF will show you that Daniels is probably the worst QB in the draft at knowing when to bail. His default is to always bail - whether their is pressure or not. Objectively Caleb is significantly better at this than Daniels.
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Magilla_Gorilla wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:01 pm
This scout is objectively an idiot. A 9.95 subscription to PFF will show you that Daniels is probably the worst QB in the draft at knowing when to bail. His default is to always bail - whether their is pressure or not. Objectively Caleb is significantly better at this than Daniels.
Startkyleorton's been chirping away about this on twitter for like a solid month now. it's pretty funny.
Ranks him last in this article, and talks a fair amount about the crying incident (one for you, TMP)...
At this point in time do we really care what yet another evaluation has to say? I believe some of the "old school" types like Greg Garbriel put more emphasis on that incident than others but as of today what does it matter? He's still gonna be the kid we draft and pin our hopes on. We know he'll spend the next four years being the Bears #1 QB and by them we'll know what we have or don't have.
Yes, I do. We are taking him, so it’s not about that. But I’ll be interested in everything written about the kid his entire career in Chicago
Magilla_Gorilla wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:01 pm
This scout is objectively an idiot. A 9.95 subscription to PFF will show you that Daniels is probably the worst QB in the draft at knowing when to bail. His default is to always bail - whether their is pressure or not. Objectively Caleb is significantly better at this than Daniels.
Not to mention one working with a objectively good line, possibly the top WR in the draft and another likely Rd 1 WR. And the other a bad oline and maybe a Rd 3 WR?
At this point in time do we really care what yet another evaluation has to say? I believe some of the "old school" types like Greg Garbriel put more emphasis on that incident than others but as of today what does it matter? He's still gonna be the kid we draft and pin our hopes on. We know he'll spend the next four years being the Bears #1 QB and by them we'll know what we have or don't have.
Yes, I do. We are taking him, so it’s not about that. But I’ll be interested in everything written about the kid his entire career in Chicago
OK, then I'll let you do the work and just ask to updated monthly with a one page summary.
I still say we could improve the team more by trading down one for Drake Maye, and then trading down a couple of spots at the #9 spot. We'd end up with 10 picks, and two 1st round picks next year.
One thing I will miss about Fields. Is when he broke the Lions Safety at the goal line. We won't get that out of Williams. That was fun.
Bears Whiskey Nut wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:48 pm
I still say we could improve the team more by trading down one for Drake Maye, and then trading down a couple of spots at the #9 spot. We'd end up with 10 picks, and two 1st round picks next year.
One thing I will miss about Fields. Is when he broke the Lions Safety at the goal line. We won't get that out of Williams. That was fun.
That only works if you think Drake Maye is a better QB.
Nothing improves a team more than drafting a franchise QB.
And if you think Maye is that - why would you risk losing him by trading down?
By now I would hope that any chance Poles will trade that #1 pick is one of those things caused by delirium. For good or ill the die has been cast. It just won't become official for another week.
Something tells me that the replies, mindset, philosophy and approach to football (and life) which were revealed in this long interview would not materially differ from what the Bears coaches and front office would have gleaned from their own interviews.
I believe Caleb is supremely confident and consistent in doing things his way. Whether you like his style or not, you have to admit, the kid feels genuine and true to himself.
Bears Whiskey Nut wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:48 pm
I still say we could improve the team more by trading down one for Drake Maye, and then trading down a couple of spots at the #9 spot. We'd end up with 10 picks, and two 1st round picks next year.
One thing I will miss about Fields. Is when he broke the Lions Safety at the goal line. We won't get that out of Williams. That was fun.
I get what you're saying, and Cutler was the same way, but let met ask you this:
How often do you see Patrick Mahomes do that? Aaron Rodgers? Tom Brady?
Something to think about, although there was this:
Bears Whiskey Nut wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:48 pm
I still say we could improve the team more by trading down one for Drake Maye, and then trading down a couple of spots at the #9 spot. We'd end up with 10 picks, and two 1st round picks next year.
One thing I will miss about Fields. Is when he broke the Lions Safety at the goal line. We won't get that out of Williams. That was fun.
I get what you're saying, and Cutler was the same way, but let met ask you this:
How often do you see Patrick Mahomes do that? Aaron Rodgers? Tom Brady?
Something to think about, although there was this:
I don’t usually have time to invest in long form interviews like this but these guys are good at what they’re doing. (If you want to LMAO for quite a while, check out the one they did with Kevin Hart.)
More importantly, this one is worth the time investment. It’s the best window into Caleb Williams that I’ve seen and it puts so much of what we’ve heard/read about him into proper perspective.
I really think we’re getting the real deal with this kid.
“Never let your ego get so close to your position that when your position falls, your ego falls with it.”
Bears Whiskey Nut wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:48 pm
I still say we could improve the team more by trading down one for Drake Maye, and then trading down a couple of spots at the #9 spot. We'd end up with 10 picks, and two 1st round picks next year.
One thing I will miss about Fields. Is when he broke the Lions Safety at the goal line. We won't get that out of Williams. That was fun.
I get what you're saying, and Cutler was the same way, but let met ask you this:
How often do you see Patrick Mahomes do that? Aaron Rodgers? Tom Brady?
Something to think about, although there was this:
Yea, I mean Williams ain't the physical specimen of Fields but he's certainly no slouch. He's got a solid frame and build and he's gonna be able to make some muscle plays.
