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HisRoyalSweetness wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:30 pm
spudbear wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:23 pm I'd like to see an injury report before making a prediction, but it's already Wednesday so time to go.
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It's worrying that Brisker still hasn't cleared the concussion protocol after 3 weeks.
The team should look hard at itself for either missing, or seeing and ignoring, him clearly spark out on the field and letting him carry on playing.

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I really want this to be a turn around game for the Bears, but sadly I don't see it happening. Our OL is banged up, our DL is hobbled. I'm guessing Moore is playing hurt. But mostly I think the fallout from the loss in Washington DC caused irreparable harm. The news media and NFL analysts have been excoriating Eberflus on his defensive strategy and failures in the last few minutes of the Commanders game. And this isn't the first time that a lot of these players have seen Eberflus blow a game late in the clock. I think there is a residual effect , maybe a hangover, that occurs. If the Bears get down by more than a TD early, the wheels come off.

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HisRoyalSweetness wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:30 pm
spudbear wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:23 pm I'd like to see an injury report before making a prediction, but it's already Wednesday so time to go.
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It's worrying that Brisker still hasn't cleared the concussion protocol after 3 weeks.
Brisker still out with the concussion is concerning as well as Gordon not practicing. Glad to see it was not Jenkin's back that was hurt, and the knee was good enough to at least walk through practice. As far as the OT situation, it's probably good that they're facing a 3-4 defense and they're outside rushers are not dangerous. Their OLB's Luketa and Collins have one sack combined, while one DT Stills has three. We'll also see our old friend Khyris Tonga in the rotation at NT. As a team the Cards have 15 total sacks, while the Bears are at 20 (tied for the league lead with SF). They probably get their sacks from blitzing so having a bunch of new OL faces on the field could be trouble.
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spudbear wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:34 pm
HisRoyalSweetness wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:30 pm Image

It's worrying that Brisker still hasn't cleared the concussion protocol after 3 weeks.
Brisker still out with the concussion is concerning as well as Gordon not practicing. Glad to see it was not Jenkin's back that was hurt, and the knee was good enough to at least walk through practice. As far as the OT situation, it's probably good that they're facing a 3-4 defense and they're outside rushers are not dangerous. Their OLB's Luketa and Collins have one sack combined, while one DT Stills has three. We'll also see our old friend Khyris Tonga in the rotation at NT. As a team the Cards have 15 total sacks, while the Bears are at 20 (tied for the league lead with SF). They probably get their sacks from blitzing so having a bunch of new OL faces on the field could be trouble.
Apparently Sweat's shin injury is a gash caused by "a spike on the back of a Commanders player’s cleat" according to Mark Potash. I don't know what he means by that. Getting gashed by a cleat yes, but a "spike" on the back of a cleat? Anyway it's relatively minor, it didn't need stitches just a bandage and he's expected to play against the Cardinals.

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I don't even know if a win here gets this shit taste out of my mouth.

Nevertheless...

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I’m starting to contemplate whether we start to tank now looking at our remaining fixtures and the health of the team physically and mentally.

We shouldn’t leave it too late
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Ditka’s dictaphone wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:49 am I’m starting to contemplate whether we start to tank now looking at our remaining fixtures and the health of the team physically and mentally.

We shouldn’t leave it too late
Tanking is better for a team mentally?
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Road game = Bears lose. Let's start there.

The Bears OL sucks on the road and now we have more backups playing. Zona has been playing better having won 3 of 4. But our defense will give them problems. I'm predicting a low scoring game here. Bears MVP this week... Tory Taylor. Again.

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wab wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 8:36 am
Ditka’s dictaphone wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:49 am I’m starting to contemplate whether we start to tank now looking at our remaining fixtures and the health of the team physically and mentally.

We shouldn’t leave it too late
Tanking is better for a team mentally?
Better to lose because you’re tanking than lose because you suck
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Ditka’s dictaphone wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:22 pm
wab wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 8:36 am

Tanking is better for a team mentally?
Better to lose because you’re tanking than lose because you suck
Just... no
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Ditka’s dictaphone wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:22 pm
wab wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 8:36 am

Tanking is better for a team mentally?
Better to lose because you’re tanking than lose because you suck
But don't you tank because you suck?
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Arkansasbear wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:57 pm
Ditka’s dictaphone wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:22 pm

Better to lose because you’re tanking than lose because you suck
But don't you tank because you suck?
The way I understand it is tanking requires deliberately losing. Not trying to win.

Sucking describes getting beaten despite trying to win.
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wab wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:42 pm
Ditka’s dictaphone wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:22 pm

Better to lose because you’re tanking than lose because you suck
Just... no
Well I’m not an expert so I take your word for it
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HisRoyalSweetness wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:30 pm It's worrying that Brisker still hasn't cleared the concussion protocol after 3 weeks.
Yep.
I think this is his 3rd as a pro? And didn't the last one also take a while to clear?
It's very possible his career could have any early end, now, or a couple years down the line.
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Teven DNP, in spite of his estimated "Ltd" status for yesterday.
Kiran, Braxton also still out
Bates not ready yet.


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Bears on the road plus OL in tatters


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Moriarty wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 3:20 pm Teven DNP, in spite of his estimated "Ltd" status for yesterday.
Kiran, Braxton also still out
Bates not ready yet.
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Injury report is rough, Bears can't win on the road, multiple starters likely to miss the game on the offensive line.

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Bears will win, guys. And fairly big, too!

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I'm not very confident in this, because it's on the road and because the Bears have a rookie QB.

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...at least we have some OL to do the :sick: fridge we do so well...
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Could have sworn I'd replied to this but...

I think the defence, for whatever reason, puts the team on its back and guts out a result, keeping the Cards to 13.

The offence behind this makeshift line commits to the run and after a slow start wears them down enough for Swift to break off some good runs. Eventually we earn a bit of respect and Caleb makes some nice play action passes in the 4th.

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Are we all mentally prepared to see Larry Borom back at left tackle?
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Flus said Braxton is out this week, Larry Borom will be the starting LT. Brisker is also out again, but it sounded like Montez, Tev, and Spiderman will be suiting up. Also sounded like Bates might be activated, sounded like he was out there running teams drills today.

Edit....Flus would not say if Tyrique would be starting or not, was non-committal on the subject.
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Both starting and backup LT from last week being out is not good. It's a big ask for Borom to play well in his first game back after a long time out.

Brisker still not clearing the concussion protocol is very concerning.
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