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Or should I say the weak?
This one is different than the double-doink as back then there were about 7 months to recover from that, while for the HailTyrique there are 7 days. How do you recover from this? How does the team gather itself up and show they are better than the end of the Commando game? I don't see other football fans anymore, but I KNOW many of you have had to put up with the looks of pity, the shake of the head or sarcastic remarks from fans of other teams.

Since 10/27/24 8:20 pm EST I have not worn any Bears clothing/paraphernalia, not watched any football games, clips/videos of the game or even turned on the NFL channel. I will not watch the Thursday night game but will start to get in the mood with college football on Saturday. By Sunday it'll be Gameday view until the Cards game.

I'm thankful for this board to vent and hear from my Bears brothers as well. These are trying times, even if it's just a game. Our Bearsfans hearts have been stomped on so much since '86 yet we soldier on. This one hurt purty bad.

Anyone burn their Bears jersey? Punched the TV? Stomp on your Bears hat? Rebuilding can be painful.
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This is a perfect topic for me, so I'm glad you posted.

No, I didn't set anything on fire. I just decided to sleep on it for a couple days, so I could calm down.

I know it was just one game. But it's a game when the coaching failures were so blatant and obvious that there's absolutely no denying it. His coming back the next day without admitting his failures made it even worse. I was never convinced that Flus was a good head coach. (Very good defensive coach, sure.) But I've been open that he's learning on the job and could develop into someone we could be proud of.

That ship just sailed.

Have to give a shout out to Tony Romo calling out the short throw before the hail mary. Think about it. If he had never said that and they threw the Hail Mary from 13-yards further back or did something else, nobody would be talking about Flus's horrendous decision to not defend it. Romo and Dan Quinn shined a light exactly where it needed to be. Thumbs up to them.

It's been years since I felt this way about my Bears. I'm pretty well demoralized, except for one thing.... Caleb Williams. Why aren't you excited about our great defense, you ask. Here's my answer to that fair question... Because I think Flus is gone after this year and we get to start over AGAIN. Who knows what the next coaching staff will do with/to our defense?

Caleb Williams is the reason I have for hope. But it's not going to be that fruitful until Ben Johnson or some other offensive coach is brought in, which of course will likely delay his development by forcing him into another new offense to learn instead of letting him mature in the same offense for multiple years.

Could Flus change my mind? It's possible. But not very likely.
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spudbear wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:52 pm Or should I say the weak?
This one is different than the double-doink as back then there were about 7 months to recover from that, while for the HailTyrique there are 7 days. How do you recover from this?
i actually think it’s BETTER that we don’t have to sit with a this game for 7 months.

I’ve heard it said that “winning is the best deodorant.” If the Bears have a strong, sharp win against the Cardinals, all won’t be forgotten but most of us will be off the ledge.

How do they recover? They get their act together and beat the brakes off of Arizona.
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spudbear wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:52 pm This one is different than the double-doink as back then there were about 7 months to recover from that, while for the HailTyrique there are 7 days.
I believe the correct term is the "What The Hail Tyrique?!"
spudbear wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:52 pm I don't see other football fans anymore, but I KNOW many of you have had to put up with the looks of pity, the shake of the head or sarcastic remarks from fans of other teams.
I'm just relieved this happened after the London game. It would have been unbearable having to put up with the mockery from fans of every other team in the NFL, for our team to have been a laughing stock and the butt of numerous jokes. It would have put a massive dampener on the whole week rather than it being the great time it proved to be.
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I don't trust flus. And I don't trust waldron. But flus is worse. When you know you know. Flus isn't the guy. A defensive coordinator isn't the coach. We need an offensive head coach that will be there as long as Caleb. Just like the chiefs. I believe we are drafting to ten again this year. But we'll get the pieces we need, along with the head coach, and it will be peaches and cream for a decade.
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I’d cut the Flus loose too.

He’s not learning. He’s still oblivious. A haircut hasn’t changed anything.
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otis wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 6:27 am ... it will be peaches and cream for a decade.
What is your basis for that? Because we have such a storied history of hiring great coaches? If you say Caleb Williams, we have him already and he's not overcoming the coaching failures, at least not on the road.
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Mikefive wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 10:48 am
otis wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 6:27 am ... it will be peaches and cream for a decade.
What is your basis for that? Because we have such a storied history of hiring great coaches? If you say Caleb Williams, we have him already and he's not overcoming the coaching failures, at least not on the road.
I mean Williams won that game in the 4th.
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wab wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 10:58 am
Mikefive wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 10:48 am What is your basis for that? Because we have such a storied history of hiring great coaches? If you say Caleb Williams, we have him already and he's not overcoming the coaching failures, at least not on the road.
I mean Williams won that game in the 4th.
Until it got Flus'd away.
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Put yourself in Ryan Poles' position. You just watched your coach make several obviously egregious errors that are drawing criticism from national pundits, local media types as well as your loyal fan base and nobody is defending Flus. Nobody.

While winning cures everything, we're talking about a coach that hasn't won a single road game on a Sunday. Could things change? It's possible. Still, the likelihood of a significant turnaround seems remote at this point.

I'd be willing to bet that Poles is now exploring potential replacements to interview at season's end. Maybe even making phone calls. How could he not?
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Mikefive wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:54 pm Put yourself in Ryan Poles' position. You just watched your coach make several obviously egregious errors that are drawing criticism from national pundits, local media types as well as your loyal fan base and nobody is defending Flus. Nobody.
Well there are a few on this message board…..
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Ditka’s dictaphone wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:55 pm
Mikefive wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:54 pm Put yourself in Ryan Poles' position. You just watched your coach make several obviously egregious errors that are drawing criticism from national pundits, local media types as well as your loyal fan base and nobody is defending Flus. Nobody.
Well those same pundits are the ones saying Tomlin is outdated. The same pundits who a few years ago were saying Dan Campbell isn't head coach material. Not saying Flus is the answer or not. But no one was calling for his head when we were 4-2. If he loses the locker room then he has to go. If not wait and see who we rebound this week. I believe after this weekend we will be forgetting last weekend pretty quickly.


For those calling for an Offensive minded coach. Remember we have had a few of them and they didn't work out to well. It really is split right down the middle as far as offensive minded to defensive minded coaches as considered the greats.

For every Parcells, Billecheck, Tomlin you have your Reids, McVays and Walshes.
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Mikefive wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 10:48 am
otis wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 6:27 am ... it will be peaches and cream for a decade.
What is your basis for that? Because we have such a storied history of hiring great coaches? If you say Caleb Williams, we have him already and he's not overcoming the coaching failures, at least not on the road.
seems like a pretty easy conclusion to come to. or fantasy. when have the bears ever had a number one star qb, a gm that appears to be pretty good, draft capitol, cap space and maybe, possibly, a new offensive minded head coach that keeps the same offensive scheme for years? and a stacked defense to boot? annnd a president that seems to know something about football. sure it may be all for shit since we are talking about the bears but if we can't win with this scenario then there really isn't any reason to be a fan.

nagy was a offensive shitbird living off of reids offensive, pace spent like a drunk sailor. and we had a mccaskey buttbuddy as president. defensive coaches lose the oc's and then fail. we need to flush flus (i hope to see a sign like that in the stands in arizona), hire johnson, who is not nagy, its his offense. and off we fucking go.
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It’s been a tough week, I’ve had zero time for excuses.

I’m sure the message board concluded that this season there were “no excuses” for failure. Yet hear we are trying to defend the indefensible coaching failures.

As for Washington, I still can’t fathom why Everflunk was so dumb in the last quarter.

In terms of the offense, which was asleep for 50 minutes, I wonder how much of that was post London? Not only the bye week momentum killer but also the travelling, the acclimatising and the other stuff that goes along with being at NFL London. It’s a feeble excuse, but in elite level sports, little things make a difference. So MAYBE I can give Caleb and the offense a pass.
The defense did better but only really in their own red zone. The Commandos offense had nearly 500 yards.

I’ll give Eberflunk credit for the defensive stops.

I’m conclusion:
I think Eberflunk has taken us as far as he can UNLESS Poles gets him a functional offensive line and fires Chris Morgan who must be THE WORST OL coach in history. He’s diabolically bad.
So either Eberflunk is fired and we repeat the loser-cycle of fire a HC after a QB rookie year or Poles hires a new OL coach and hires someone who can “adequately scout” OL players.

If Chris Morgan is back next year then it’s another dumpster fire season whatever else happens.
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Maybe I missed it if someone posted Brett Kollmann's take.
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