McNeil: Warren quashed Harbaugh job

[southdakbearfan]

I think there is a shit ton of click bait, of dubious accuracy being thrown about by some of these “sportswriters”.

[dplank]

I think there is a shit ton of click bait, of dubious accuracy being thrown about by some of these “sportswriters”.

Absolutely. I’m not believing the clickbait that convinced so many that Harbaugh would never have come here any more than the clickbait that says the opposite. My whole argument has been pushing back against these assertive “he was never willing to come here” claims that many made to excuse Poles failure to strike at a unique opportunity. I’m just well beyond granting this franchise any benefit doubt, I assume they do stupid stuff until they start proving otherwise.

[Burl]

Whatever.
Just look at the Bears’ record, both in making hires and in the W/L column. Like passing on Arians for Trestman, Mahomes for Trubisky, and Kingsbury for Waldron…they probably passed on flus for Harbaugh. Because Bears.

[Magilla_Gorilla]

[wulfy]

I shed no tears over not getting Harbaugh. He’s a weird dude whose shtick wears off quickly and he causes massive divisions in every organization he’s been in. When he was in SF, they tried to trade him to the Browns.

Is he doing well this year? Yes.

[RichH55]

I think there is a shit ton of click bait, of dubious accuracy being thrown about by some of these “sportswriters”.

Absolutely. I’m not believing the clickbait that convinced so many that Harbaugh would never have come here any more than the clickbait that says the opposite. My whole argument has been pushing back against these assertive “he was never willing to come here” claims that many made to excuse Poles failure to strike at a unique opportunity. I’m just well beyond granting this franchise any benefit doubt, I assume they do stupid stuff until they start proving otherwise.

If only there was a super obvious middle ground.....

The Harbaugh stuff isn't the best Anti-Bears narrative out there IMHO.

[RichH55]

But this doesn't lend itself as well to ad hominem broadside attacks....

[dplank]

I shed no tears over not getting Harbaugh. He’s a weird dude whose shtick wears off quickly and he causes massive divisions in every organization he’s been in. When he was in SF, they tried to trade him to the Browns.

Is he doing well this year? Yes.

Well, I do think this dynamic has changed some. He did 9 years at Michigan, that's not a short burn out type deal. And his players, in Year 9, would all run through a wall for the guy and absolutely loved him. And he won a National Championship in Y9, so it's not like his message wore off in any way.

People change. He's definitely weird AF tho lol...

[Grizzled]

Warren and Harbaugh clashed when Warren was commish of the Big 10. Warren wanted to cancel the football season during Covid but coaches including Harbaugh talked him out of that. Harbaugh is notorious for wanting "his" GM in place. It's very possible that Warren knew this and told whomever (Harbaugh's agent?) that the Bears wouldn't fire Poles for him. As well as Warren knowing how prickly Harbaugh could be. I doubt there were any official talks as Flus was still the coach and I doubt the Bears would do this behind his back. If he had been fired, then I could see one side reaching out.

[RichH55]

I shed no tears over not getting Harbaugh. He’s a weird dude whose shtick wears off quickly and he causes massive divisions in every organization he’s been in. When he was in SF, they tried to trade him to the Browns.

Is he doing well this year? Yes.

Well, I do think this dynamic has changed some. He did 9 years at Michigan, that's not a short burn out type deal. And his players, in Year 9, would all run through a wall for the guy and absolutely loved him. And he won a National Championship in Y9, so it's not like his message wore off in any way.

People change. He's definitely weird AF tho lol...

I would note that college is different than the Pros in terms of message wearing off. College they gotta leave after X amount of years and you get less time with them then the Pros.

But the overall longevity at Michigan and him being Weird AF - very fair points

[wulfy]

Winning a Natty tends to heal plenty of wounds. Let’s not forget that Michigan almost fired him - and reduced his pay.

He’s a very good football coach on the field.

[Bearfacts]

@SearTower
Dan's report is clearly just recycling old news. At the time, Harbaugh's agent was trying to generate Bears interest against the Chargers for the benefit of his contract. So he told someone Harbaugh was still interested in the Bears hence the offseason reports of Harbaugh wanting to come to the Bears (when in reality he always wanted to go to the Chargers). The Bears caught scent of this report and that's when Poles shut it down because he was never planning on moving from Eberflus. Then as a counter to continue to generate Bears interest and make Harbaugh still look good, Harbaugh's agent probably said that the Bears WERE interested but it was "Warren who shut it down" so it was "out of their hands". Then somebody on the lower hierarchy in the Bears probably heard that at that time and shared it with Dan recently who's now reporting it blindly. So is he technically wrong? No. But there's context to this stuff.

And this is the version I'm sticking with. Harbaugh and Warren are like fire and kerosene. Why would have even want to subject himself to Warren's scrutiny all over again when the Chargers were in play and the West Coast beckoned? At best the Bears were a failed bargaining chip for his agent.

[Bearfacts]

The thing about dudes like this throwing bullshit at the wall, if someone in the know truly chose now to leak this, what motive would they have? Who does this benefit?

A selfish motive they hope will benefit their own reputation as one who seems to know something no one else does. It's the pattern that developed of simply saying things that have no basis in fact on the hope that enough people will believe you to benefit from it. We should all have seen precisely how this works by now.

[G08]

I would lean more on what Biggs knows than what McNiel is speculating.

Biggs is the GOAT

[dplank]

Biggs seems like an insider who is controlled by the franchise IMO. They let him off his leash for smaller items to keep the ruse up, but he toes the company line for anything they care about.

[G08]

Biggs seems like an insider who is controlled by the franchise IMO. They let him off his leash for smaller items to keep the ruse up, but he toes the company line for anything they care about.

Bro he's the furthest thing from being "controlled by the franchise" -- he bags on them all the time.

He has a metric shit-ton of connections throughout the league. His insight is elite.

[Rusty Trombagent]

i'm old enough to remember when multiple sources were saying Harbaugh wouldnt go anywhere that wouldnt draft JJ McCarthy. This shit is lazy connect the dots fantasy and I think if you want to believe it you will. /shrugs

[dplank]

When the Harbaugh stuff came up last year someone here speculated that Warren would never go for it because they clashed in the NCAA. I'll have to go back and find who that was.

I remember that as well and they were absolutely right. Negative mark for Warren here he should have swallowed his ego and hired the best football mind available to coach the Bears. I'm quickly souring on Warren

Warren lost me with his weird praying on TV thing before talking about the stadium. Dude has a massive stick up his ass. I trust Poles far more than Warren hiring our next coach.

[o-pus #40 in B major]

Warren best stay in the background and focus on the Arlington endeavor. His performance at the press conference was a PR turd in his lap.

[Moriarty]

I remember that as well and they were absolutely right. Negative mark for Warren here he should have swallowed his ego and hired the best football mind available to coach the Bears. I'm quickly souring on Warren

Warren lost me with his weird praying on TV thing before talking about the stadium. Dude has a massive stick up his ass.

That was definitely peculiar and tone-deaf.


And all the more troubling because the McCaskeys have a long, long history of putting "Devout Christian" at the top of their HC/GM/VP qualification list and "good at football stuff" somewhere further down the line.

[HisRoyalSweetness]

I would lean more on what Biggs knows than what McNiel is speculating.

Biggs is the GOAT

Biggs seems like an insider who is controlled by the franchise IMO. They let him off his leash for smaller items to keep the ruse up, but he toes the company line for anything they care about.

Bro he's the furthest thing from being "controlled by the franchise" -- he bags on them all the time.

He has a metric shit-ton of connections throughout the league. His insight is elite.

I tend to believe G08, but only because he is this board's resident expert when it comes to goats.

[artbest01]

FWIW, Marc Trestman is Jewish

quote=Moriarty post_id=403319 time=1733674904 user_id=1866]

Warren lost me with his weird praying on TV thing before talking about the stadium. Dude has a massive stick up his ass.

That was definitely peculiar and tone-deaf.


And all the more troubling because the McCaskeys have a long, long history of putting "Devout Christian" at the top of their HC/GM/VP qualification list and "good at football stuff" somewhere further down the line.
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[RichH55]

FWIW, Marc Trestman is Jewish

quote=Moriarty post_id=403319 time=1733674904 user_id=1866]

Warren lost me with his weird praying on TV thing before talking about the stadium. Dude has a massive stick up his ass.

That was definitely peculiar and tone-deaf.


And all the more troubling because the McCaskeys have a long, long history of putting "Devout Christian" at the top of their HC/GM/VP qualification list and "good at football stuff" somewhere further down the line.

[/quote]

Technically the same God!

I'm sure this will cause no disagreements at all...ha

[G08]

Biggs is the GOAT

Bro he's the furthest thing from being "controlled by the franchise" -- he bags on them all the time.

He has a metric shit-ton of connections throughout the league. His insight is elite.

I tend to believe G08, but only because he is this board's resident expert when it comes to goats.

I humbly defer to @Road

[docc]

The new Chicago Bears Badminton team...
maybe something they could do well///or maybe "Cornholers "

[Moriarty]

That was definitely peculiar and tone-deaf.


And all the more troubling because the McCaskeys have a long, long history of putting "Devout Christian" at the top of their HC/GM/VP qualification list and "good at football stuff" somewhere further down the line.

FWIW, Marc Trestman is Jewish

Well, it's much clunkier to say, but, ok, "devout followers of a Judeo-Christian God".