southdakbearfan wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:21 am
Richie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:32 pm
Isn't Nagy/Pace's ass being on the line implied in any of our opinions? Isn't the 2020 Bears being in "win now" mode also implied? I mean, that's how I look at it.
Yeah, that cold hard truth is a huge part of what leads me to believe that Foles is A LOT more than an insurance policy.
At minimum, it's a direct competition. Nothing about what has transpired should lend itself to "Mitch is the starter and Foles is here
just incase".
Of course. Perhaps I phrased that wrong.
Clearly, Mitch was more productive overall in 2018 - just looking at it in a vacuum. I was merely pointing out that a lot of it was a mirage which gave us false hope and convinced us Mitch was further along than he was. The organization clearly bought into it as well. I mean, I did at the time - despite PFF and all of these analytics putting the truth in my face. I staunchly denied it.
I mean, he was fantastic in 2 to 3 games against horrendous defenses (half of his TD's came in these games) and then collectively? The rest of the season is exactly what he was in 2019. His 2019 was basically his 2018. Just without those volatile spikes in performance and a poor run game along with a line drop off which helped to expose his shortcomings. In Trubisky's career. 95% of his games or so... it's been the exact same QB.
This is a QB competition and if anyone DOES have an upper leg? It's Foles. Not the other way around. That's what these moves involving Bridgewater and Foles lend itself to. This staff and front office is done fucking around. Mitch has to win the job. It is no his to lose. That's wishful thinking by those hanging tough in the Mitch Trubisky truther camp.
And in foles magical season where he lead the NFL in rating he threw almost a 1/4 of his touchdowns in one game? 7 of them against the hapless raiders.
QB's always make hay against terrible pass defenses, just like RB's make their hay against terrible run defenses and pass rushers make their hay against bad blockers.
Good QB's are bumslayers. And I am not saying he doesn't need to improve, just pointing out facts.
And in foles magical season where he lead the NFL in rating he threw almost a 1/4 of his touchdowns in one game? 7 of them against the hapless raiders.
The difference? Take that game out and it is still a fantastic season of play. Take Mitch's best game out? It REALLY hurts.
Also, nowhere did I asset that Foles is great. Merely that he's a capable professional - capable of getting hot with a good team around him. That's a huge upgrade to the worst season long starter in the NFL last season.
QB's always make hay against terrible pass defenses, just like RB's make their hay against terrible run defenses and pass rushers make their hay against bad blockers.
A) Well, first off -- Mitch DOESN'T do that. He did it a VERY small handful of times and has been utterly brutal outside of that. That's my whole point. I would see the NYG game and the game vs Minny's backups last year for reference. The @GB, MIA ARI, NYJ, BUF and SF games in 2018 for more reference. The SF and @DET games in 17. Mitch doesn't slay bums. Maybe half of the time.
B) Top 10 QB's may not have great stat lines against every top D and maybe even their best games do come against bad D's. However, they do SOOOO much better against everything in between than Mitch has.
Good QB's are bumslayers.
Again...
A) Mitch isn't a bumslayer, though. He's bumslayed like 5-6 times in his career. Like an average of once or twice per year. lol. Mitch has had plenty of games looking unimpressive against bad defenses.
B) Good QB's do a lot more than slay bums. Come on. Do they slay bums? Sure, but they do it every time AND they have success vs the majority of the league. So far, Mitch's only trick is bumslaying at about a 50% rate.