Davis Mills QB
STANFORD • JR • 6'4" / 214 LBS
PROJECTED TEAM: Chicago
PROSPECT RNK: 62nd
POSITION RNK: 6th
Hey, they have to get their long-term guy at some point. Andy Dalton could play this year and then they could go to Mills next season. Nick Foles isn't the answer either. This might seem crazy, but this group traded up to get Mitch Trubisky
I actually like Prisco, half of what he does is to get a rise out of people. When I lived in Jacksonville, FL many moons ago, he was the Jaguars beat writer for the Florida Times-Union.
Arkansasbear wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:06 pm
Perhaps the worst thing we could do.
Agree. Unless one of the top group guys falls unexpectedly, at the very least we should trade back or wait until 51 to get a QB. Overdrafting a guy who won't play this year and has a > 50% chance of washing out isn't a recipe for success.
Mikefive's theory: The only time you KNOW that a sports team player, coach or management member is being 100% honest is when they're NOT reciting "the company line".
Arkansasbear wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:06 pm
Perhaps the worst thing we could do.
Agree. Unless one of the top group guys falls unexpectedly, at the very least we should trade back or wait until 51 to get a QB. Overdrafting a guy who won't play this year and has a > 50% chance of washing out isn't a recipe for success.
Totally agreed. Mills is a 2nd rounder at best — and maybe not even worth 51.
“Never let your ego get so close to your position that when your position falls, your ego falls with it.”
Mikefive wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:33 pm
Agree. Unless one of the top group guys falls unexpectedly, at the very least we should trade back or wait until 51 to get a QB. Overdrafting a guy who won't play this year and has a > 50% chance of washing out isn't a recipe for success.
Totally agreed. Mills is a 2nd rounder at best — and maybe not even worth 51.
If we get someone like Jenkins in the first and we spend this years second round pick with next year’s second round pick to draft him at 32 I could live with that. Wouldn’t love but if he is “their guy” and they make that move I won’t go crazy.
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It wouldn't shock me. Like I said, I think that Mills is a better prospect than Lance. If you're willing to spend #20 on Lance, why wouldn't you on Mills? Mills' biggest criticism is his lack of experience. Well, he certainly has more experience than Lance does in at least throwing the ball. And he has it against much better competition.
But nobody else is going to take him in the first... so it makes no sense, unless what he REALLY means is they USE the 20th to trade down to get more picks AND Mills with one of two 2nd rounders.
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To be fair, no one knows where any team has a player rated.
I concur that I don't see Mills (or Mond) as a first-round talent, but I'm not working for an NFL team so I don't have access to all the resources they have; and I'm not privy to all the info they have.
Moreover, this is a weird draft year, and I firmly believe you're going to see bigger disparities than usual with tram draft boards. Uncertainty abounds. I expect more.than a few teams are going to go the Rams'/Seahawks' way of thinking and get just a few guys they think they can count on this year, and forgo a lot of perceived risk after that.
Mills is almost certainly QB6 on a lot of boards. No, that doesn't mean I think he's worth 20th overall, but then I also don't feel any but maybe fifteen guys are worth a first-rounder this year anyway. And more than that are going to be drafted there, because math.
If the Bears can't Teddy Bridgewater/Lamar Jackson him at the end of the 1st and you want the option year a Day 1 pick brings, it's not out of line to make that move. I'd move down if I could to do it, but you do risk losing him to teams like the Saints, Steelers, or another team moving up from Round 2 if you do.
Yogi da Bear wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:33 pm
It wouldn't shock me. Like I said, I think that Mills is a better prospect than Lance. If you're willing to spend #20 on Lance, why wouldn't you on Mills? Mills' biggest criticism is his lack of experience. Well, he certainly has more experience than Lance does in at least throwing the ball. And he has it against much better competition.
All I've read about the guy seems to question his ability to process information / read defenses / etc. This sounds too Trubiskian for me and is completely counter to what a "Nagy system QB" needs to be able to thrive. And the whole "he's from Stanford so he must be smart" excuse doesn't hold water - classroom intelligence and football live action intelligence are two dramatically different things. Pretty sure Brett Favre and Dan Marino would have flunked out of Stanford - good QB's tho
Yogi da Bear wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:33 pm
It wouldn't shock me. Like I said, I think that Mills is a better prospect than Lance. If you're willing to spend #20 on Lance, why wouldn't you on Mills? Mills' biggest criticism is his lack of experience. Well, he certainly has more experience than Lance does in at least throwing the ball. And he has it against much better competition.
All I've read about the guy seems to question his ability to process information / read defenses / etc. This sounds too Trubiskian for me and is completely counter to what a "Nagy system QB" needs to be able to thrive. And the whole "he's from Stanford so he must be smart" excuse doesn't hold water - classroom intelligence and football live action intelligence are two dramatically different things. Pretty sure Brett Favre and Dan Marino would have flunked out of Stanford - good QB's tho
What I've seen on the guy is just the opposite. At Stanford he was required to make lots of presnap reads and is use to doing that. In an interview he said he wanted to go to a team that demanded that of the QB. He still makes boneheaded throws from time to time but you'll get that guys that haven't started much.
His lack of tape and injuries are bigger red flags to me.
Are you saying Jay was supposed to fall, but didn't?
Cutler's diabetes went undiagnosed until his 2nd year in the league.
No I'm not referring to the draft with Jay. I'm referring to people speculating about his diabetes impacting his performance at times. You guys don't remember the constant nonsense about that? Maybe I listen to more talk radio than some.
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Mills should be a 3rd (if one is generous), more realistically a 4th or 5th round type of QB. No one would draft a QB in the 1st with so little experience (okay, that was a bit of snark).
Where are my old Chicago Bears and what have you done with them, Ryan Poles?
Grizzled wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:39 pm
Mills should be a 3rd (if one is generous), more realistically a 4th or 5th round type of QB. No one would draft a QB in the 1st with so little experience (okay, that was a bit of snark).
Really? Lance has 318 passing attempts to Mills' 438, and he's generally considered a Top 15 if not Top 10 picks. That's with a third less passing attempts than Mills, and pretty much an unanimous consensus from everybody.
And that's not even factoring in the Trubisky "snark." lol
Grizzled wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:39 pm
Mills should be a 3rd (if one is generous), more realistically a 4th or 5th round type of QB. No one would draft a QB in the 1st with so little experience (okay, that was a bit of snark).
Really? Lance has 318 passing attempts to Mills' 438, and he's generally considered a Top 15 if not Top 10 picks. That's with a third less passing attempts than Mills, and pretty much an unanimous consensus from everybody.
And that's not even factoring in the Trubisky "snark." lol
For NFL guys who didn't play at big time programs, we have Big Ben but he played for a Division I MAC team. There's Carson Wentz, who also played at NDSU and enjoyed good success until he went through several consecutive years of significant injuries. Lots of prognosticators saying Lance would go very high; we'll see which GM drafts him based on potential and not a lot else.
Where are my old Chicago Bears and what have you done with them, Ryan Poles?
SportsMock article makes the idea of drafting Mills look pretty sketch. I'm not a fan of drafting injury-prone players. Especially immobile QBs who have a history of knee issues. Just no thanks. Maybe he'll be good. I don't like the risk.
IE wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:33 am
SportsMock article makes the idea of drafting Mills look pretty sketch. I'm not a fan of drafting injury-prone players. Especially immobile QBs who have a history of knee issues. Just no thanks. Maybe he'll be good. I don't like the risk.
IE wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:33 am
SportsMock article makes the idea of drafting Mills look pretty sketch. I'm not a fan of drafting injury-prone players. Especially immobile QBs who have a history of knee issues. Just no thanks. Maybe he'll be good. I don't like the risk.
No Trask - watched his pro day yesterday on Path to the Draft - yuck.
I hadn't seen much of Mond, really, until the last couple of weeks.
What do we think of JT O'Sullivan? Does he know his shit? If so, he was big on Mond and had him at QB4 including above Fields. I'd be upset at any one of these guys in the first. But in the second I'm good with Mond.
Lesser so with Trask and now not at all with Mills because I just decided the red flags are too many regardless of what I think I saw on his pro day or how his "final few games" have been spun. Talented, smart but dinged up ... it gives me a Sam Bradford vibe.
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