IE wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 8:31 am
The Marshall Plan wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:22 am
Could you please quote anybody here that is looking for "an all-time great team" constantly from this franchise or is content with just 1985? FFS. 1985.
This is where your argument falls apart and you just have your head up your ass being a smart mouth to anybody that is passionate about making this team a consistent contendor.
And now you just sound like Chet From Oak Park reminiscing about 1985. It was FORTY FUCKING YEARS AGO! LIVE IN THE NOW!
You should know damn well, then again maybe you don't, that there's A LOT more to the losing than just crying a river that the Packers had Favre and Rodgers.
I'm not going to sit here and list them for you, I shouldn't have to, but busted HC hire after busted hire. Bad draft pick after draft pick. Not pulling the trigger when generational players dropped in the draft like Rodgers and Moss.
Again, why in the fuck should this have to be explained and justified to you?
Bears fan want to have a consistent winner. What a shocking concept. A sports fan want his team to do better.
You must be surprised by the sunrise every morning too.
I said pretty clearly that going back to '85 is a false premise. I was actually AT the NFCC win in '06 and watched my team in the Superbowl. Dreaming?
I was actually AT the NFCC when Cutler was hurt- a healthy QB away from another superbowl berth within 5 years, but luck wasn't on our side. Owners fault, huh?
OK that was 10 years ago and most of that 10 years was a failed rebuilding effort under a young GM that made too many screwups to earn another shot. The pain was extended there a bit by the GM's decision to bring in a DC that could make a team competitive all on his own & gave too much air cover to a bad coach by looking like a real contender on defense alone. So the GM's good decision unfortunately caused a bad one to persist a few years too long.
I expect my team to be a real competitor more than once every 10-15 years of course. I'm excited & optimistic that Poles/Flus could be the ones to compete more often (consistently). But to pretend that there's been 40 years of nothing is totally false. Why should I have to explain ACTUAL history to anyone?
IMO the delusion is internet fans thinking they can generally manage a team better than in demand and highly thought of NFL executives. Nope.
Literally no ones about I WAS THERE MAN. This isn't a discussion about Vietnam.
Do I need to go through and list all of the other years when we were a shit ton more than a Cutler injury away from anything?
How about the entire 1990s? The Dick Jauron Era? Half of the 2000s and pretty much every year since 2006 with the exception of 2018?
As far as that "delusion" of internet fans trying to manage a team better or thinking they're smarter than the front office of their favorite team? That's like every passionate sports fan ever. That's why people talk about sports.
Every fan in the NFL, maybe except for the Chiefs, Patriots, Bills and Bucs, thinks their GM is a dumbass. And even then you could probably find some people who root for those teams who aren't satisfied with having Mahomes, or Brady or Allen or a 20 year dynasty and get on the internet and bitch.
It's what sports fans do.
This team has treated me like shit for the better part of 35 years. I still have no fucking clue why I take it. I did make a declaration that if Fields busts out (he won't) then I'm done.
Somebody cuts me off in traffic and I give him the finger and call his mother a whore. That's how I roll. But then for 35 years this team has shit in my mouth like The Human Centipede and I sit back, laugh, cry, get angry, throw Diet Cokes around the house (that has since stopped after I had a kid).
The word "fan" I believe is short for "fanatic". That's the whole fucking point. You're defying any and all human logic by emotionally attaching yourself to a sports team that quite frankly probably doesn't even like you. It's fucked up. It's also what makes humans fun.