2023 Draft Sims

[Moriarty]

Wow.

PFF just locked down their simulator.
useless 2 rounds only and no adjustment of sliders without paying
$80/yr

I often pay Fanspeak's $10/yr to unlock trades, but 80 is kinda rich for a toy.

[G08]

First time doing it this season, ran two drafts: first is a trade down to #19, second is staying at #9. Which do you like more (and why, if so inclined)?

Trade Down:
19. Bijan Robinson - RB
50. Keeanu Benton - DT
53. Matthew Bergeron - OT
61. John Michael Schmitz - iOL
64. Derrick Hall - EDGE
103. Tank Dell - WR
133. Zacch Pickens - DT
136. Andrew Vorhees - iOL
148. Nick Herbig - LB

Stay at #9:
9. Jalen Carter - DT
53. John Michael Schmitz - iOL
61. Derrick Hall - EDGE
64. Blake Freeeland - OT
103. Rashee Rice - WR
133. Zacch Pickens - DT
136. Wayna Morris - OT

[UOK]

First time doing it this season, ran two drafts: first is a trade down to #19, second is staying at #9. Which do you like more (and why, if so inclined)?

Trade Down:
19. Bijan Robinson - RB
50. Keeanu Benton - DT
53. Matthew Bergeron - OT
61. John Michael Schmitz - iOL
64. Derrick Hall - EDGE
103. Tank Dell - WR
133. Zacch Pickens - DT
136. Andrew Vorhees - iOL
148. Nick Herbig - LB

Stay at #9:
9. Jalen Carter - DT
53. John Michael Schmitz - iOL
61. Derrick Hall - EDGE
64. Blake Freeeland - OT
103. Rashee Rice - WR
133. Zacch Pickens - DT
136. Wayna Morris - OT

The trade down one, for sure, but I wouldn't turn up my nose to the second.

[crueltyabc]

I think these are both great drafts for the Bears. There are two guys I'm not 100% sold on right now as Bears fits

1. Is Tank Dell really going to get slot snaps? I would have him behind Mooney and (effectively) Tonyan so it's hard to see a path to the field for him. Does he have ST value?

2. At some point I decided I don't like Derick Hall and I think I'm on an island there. Is there a game I can watch to sell me on the guy or are you more interested in his traits or senior bowl performance?

[Moriarty]

I think these are both great drafts for the Bears. There are two guys I'm not 100% sold on right now as Bears fits

1. Is Tank Dell really going to get slot snaps? I would have him behind Mooney and (effectively) Tonyan so it's hard to see a path to the field for him. Does he have ST value?

2. At some point I decided I don't like Derick Hall and I think I'm on an island there. Is there a game I can watch to sell me on the guy or are you more interested in his traits or senior bowl performance?

I'm in for Derick Hall at OLB, but not in a 43

[Moriarty]

PFN

I went OT early here, mostly because that's the vibe I'm getting.
That went great, although DE suffered some for it. Still with 2 excellent DT hits, the line should improve.


trade 9 -> 13, 43
trade 64 -> 75, 113


13 Broderick Jones OT Georgia
43 Calijah Kancey 3T Pittsburgh
53 Joe Tippmann C Wisconsin
61 Keeanu Benton 1T Wisconsin
75 Andre Carter II DE Army
103 Sam LaPorta TE Iowa
113 Dylan Horton DE TCU
133 Brandon Hill S Pittsburgh
136 Nathaniel Dell WR/PR Houston
148 Riley Moss CB Iowa
218 Dontay Demus Jr WR Maryland
258 Malik Cunningham QB Louisville

[crueltyabc]

Yep time for everyone to switch to PFN mocks!

Good job spreading the wealth @Moriarty I went really hard at oline and neglected some groups...

Can you tell I like day 2 picks?

29.Anton Harrison OT Oklahoma
53.John Michael Schmitz OC Minnesota
64.Gervon Dexter DT Florida
71.Cedric Tillman WR Tennessee
85.Warren McClendon OT Georgia
89.Sam LaPorta TE Iowa
103.Zacch Pickens DT South Carolina
106.Zach Harrison EDGE Ohio State
125.Wanya Morris OT Oklahoma
128.Ji'Ayir Brown S Penn State
133.Tyjae Spears RB Tulane

2024 TEN 2nd
2024 NYJ 2nd
2024 BAL 2nd
2024 BAL 3rd

Larry Borom will be fighting for a roster spot. They'll need to sign a mercenary at CB and EDGE but they have the money. DBs and LBs next year with plenty of draft capital to set up a pipeline in any position group they want.

[southdakbearfan]

Traded down twice, picked up a second. Two OT’s, 1 guard, 1 3Tech, 2 edge 1 1Tech in the top 64, fringe edge, TE, QB to go with a decent RB prospect after. I would take it, but I missed on a good CB prospect that I would like. In a do over I would change pick 61 to a CB. Borom and much of the fringe O-line camp would be gone. D line has much more potential.

CHI
31.Anton Harrison
OT Oklahoma

43.Adetomiwa Adebawore
EDGE Northwestern

53.Will McDonald IV
EDGE Iowa State

56 Tuli Tuipulotu
EDGE USC

61.Steve Avila
OG TCU

63.Keeanu Benton
DT Wisconsin

64.Blake Freeland
OT BYU

133. Zach Harrison
EDGE Ohio State

136.Tyjae Spears
RB Tulane

218.Jake Haener
QB Fresno State

258. Josh Whyle
TE Cincinnati

2024 JAX 2nd

[UOK]

Instead of doing a sim, did my own mock of round one. This involves a clutch of trades.

1. Carolina Panthers: CJ Stroud, QB - Ohio State
2. Houston Texans: Bryce Stroud, QB - Alabama
3. Arizona Cardinals: Will Anderson Jr., EDGE - Alabama
4. Indianapolis Colts: Will Levis, QB - Kentucky
5. Seattle Seahawks: Tyree Wilson, EDGE - Texas Tech
6. Detroit Lions: Christian Gonzalez, CB - Oregon
7. Las Vegas Raiders: Anthony Richardson, QB - Florida
8. Atlanta Falcons: Miles Murphey, EDGE - Clemson
9. Baltimore Ravens (f/ CHI): Jalen Carter, DL - Georgia
10. Philadelphia Eagles: Bryan Bresee, DL - Clemson
11. Arizona Cardinals (f/ TEN): Quentin Johnston, WR - TCU
12. Houston Texans: Bijan Robinson, RB - Texas
13. New York Jets: Paris Johnson Jr, OT - Ohio State
14. New England Patriots: Peter Skoronski, OT - Northwestern
15. Green Bay Packers: Brian Branch, S - Alabama
16. Chicago Bears (f/ BAL): Broderick Jones, OT - Georgia
17. Pittsburgh Steelers: Joey Porter Jr, CB - Penn State
18. Detroit Lions: Lukas Van Ness, EDGE - Iowa
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Devon Witherspoon, CB - Illinois
20. Seattle Seahawks: Jaxon Smith-Njigba, WR - Ohio State
21. Los Angeles Chargers: Jordan Addison, WR - USC
22. Chicago Bears (f/ BAL): Nolan Smith, EDGE - Georgia
23. Minnesota Vikings: Deonte Banks, CB - Maryland
24. Jacksonville Jaguars: Darnell Washington, TE - Georgia
25. New York Giants: Calijah Kancey, DL - Pitt
26. Dallas Cowboys: Mazi Smith, DL - Michigan
27. Buffalo Bills: Jalin Hyatt, WR - Tennessee
28. Cincinnati Bengals: Michael Mayer, TE - Notre Dame
29. New Orleans Saints: Keion White, DL - Georgia Tech
30. Philadelphia Eagles: Jamyr Gibbs, RB - Alabama
31. Kansas City Chiefs: BJ Ojulari, EDGE - LSU

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TRADE 1

Ravens receive:

R1 P16, R2 P16, 2024 R1, 2024 R3, QB Sam Howell

Commanders receive:

QB Lamar Jackson

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TRADE 2

Bears receive:

R1 P16, R1 P22

Ravens receive:

R1 P9, R4 P31, R7 P258

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TRADE 3

Cardinals receive:

R1 P11, 2024 R4

Titans receive:

WR DeAndre Hopkins, R3 P3, R3 P33

[crueltyabc]

You guys have Will McDonald and Nolan Smith coming to the Bears and I wonder if they're big enough for what Flus wants at DE. Do you think they'll get bigger or they're exceptional cases?

[Z Bear]

Just hit it out of the park on PFN, a lot of higih RAS guys that Poles should like. I am starting to come to the conclusion that trading down anymore is a waste, 10 draft picks is a lot if you hit on them.

9. Tyree Wilson EDGE Texas Tech
53. Mazi Smith DT Michigan
61. Blake Freeland OT BYU
64. Joe Tippmann OC Wisconsin
103. Zack Kuntz TE Old Dominion
133. Tyjae Spears RB Tulane
136. Michael Wilson WR Stanford
148. Mekhi Garner CB LSU
218. Stetson Bennett QB Georgia
258. Nick Saldiveri OG Old Dominion

[crueltyabc]

I am starting to come to the conclusion that trading down anymore is a waste

9. Tyree Wilson EDGE Texas Tech

Easy for you to say when you had a top 5 player fall to 9

[Hoog]

You guys have Will McDonald and Nolan Smith coming to the Bears and I wonder if they're big enough for what Flus wants at DE. Do you think they'll get bigger or they're exceptional cases?

I don't really have them.on my boards. Putting on 20 pounds from 235 is a lot to ask of them.

[dave99]

PFF simulation #?
16: ED Nolan Smith (jumpin on this train now)
47: OT Matthew Bergeron
53: C Joe Tippman (finally a big tough center)
61: DL Siaki Ika
64: RB Devon Achane (PFF dinged me here with a C-)
97: ED Coby Wooden
103 ED ( or 3T) Karl Brooks (One of their favorites, got a A+ for this one)
133 WR Jalen Moreno-Cooper (competition for our excellent receiver room)
136 DI Keonde Coburn
148 TE Davis Allen ( heard somewhere they were high on this guy)
215 T Nick Saldiveri ( think I got a sleeper here)
218 QB Malik Cunningham ( a very poor mans JF)
258 FB Hunter Luepke (“He was a phenomenal high school wrestler and you can see it with his base and collision pop. He will be a starting fullback in the league.” -- Area scout for AFC team)

Overall grade: A-

[Hoog]

PFF simulation #?
16: ED Nolan Smith (jumpin on this train now)
47: OT Matthew Bergeron
53: C Joe Tippman (finally a big tough center)
61: DL Siaki Ika
64: RB Devon Achane (PFF dinged me here with a C-)
97: ED Coby Wooden
103 ED ( or 3T) Karl Brooks (One of their favorites, got a A+ for this one)
133 WR Jalen Moreno-Cooper (competition for our excellent receiver room)
136 DI Keonde Coburn
148 TE Davis Allen ( heard somewhere they were high on this guy)
215 T Nick Saldiveri ( think I got a sleeper here)
218 QB Malik Cunningham ( a very poor mans JF)
258 FB Hunter Luepke (“He was a phenomenal high school wrestler and you can see it with his base and collision pop. He will be a starting fullback in the league.” -- Area scout for AFC team)

Overall grade: A-

Geez, I love everything about this draft but the first pick....would you be open to a Broderick Jones at 16 and Hall at 47? lol

[Grizzled]

Wow.

PFF just locked down their simulator.
useless 2 rounds only and no adjustment of sliders without paying
$80/yr

I often pay Fanspeak's $10/yr to unlock trades, but 80 is kinda rich for a toy.

Ran into that also. Hard pass.

[The Kaiser]

Just hit it out of the park on PFN, a lot of higih RAS guys that Poles should like. I am starting to come to the conclusion that trading down anymore is a waste, 10 draft picks is a lot if you hit on them.

9. Tyree Wilson EDGE Texas Tech
53. Mazi Smith DT Michigan
61. Blake Freeland OT BYU
64. Joe Tippmann OC Wisconsin
103. Zack Kuntz TE Old Dominion
133. Tyjae Spears RB Tulane
136. Michael Wilson WR Stanford
148. Mekhi Garner CB LSU
218. Stetson Bennett QB Georgia
258. Nick Saldiveri OG Old Dominion

Really like this draft.

[The Kaiser]

Instead of doing a sim, did my own mock of round one. This involves a clutch of trades.

16. Chicago Bears (f/ BAL): Broderick Jones, OT - Georgia

22. Chicago Bears (f/ BAL): Nolan Smith, EDGE - Georgia


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TRADE 2

Bears receive:

R1 P16, R1 P22

Ravens receive:

R1 P9, R4 P31, R7 P258

I love the draft results but I don't see think this trade is viable, esp with a savvy outfit like the Ravens. Giving up #16 and #22 overall for #9 and a 4th rounder doesn't sound right. I think we'd have to give up pick #53 at the very least to get a deal like that across...maybe more.

BTW, I'd still do it for that price because getting a stud pass rusher and a stud OT -- maybe the two linemen with the highest ceilings in the entire draft mind you, is absolutely worth it.

[UOK]

Instead of doing a sim, did my own mock of round one. This involves a clutch of trades.

16. Chicago Bears (f/ BAL): Broderick Jones, OT - Georgia

22. Chicago Bears (f/ BAL): Nolan Smith, EDGE - Georgia


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TRADE 2

Bears receive:

R1 P16, R1 P22

Ravens receive:

R1 P9, R4 P31, R7 P258

I love the draft results but I don't see think this trade is viable, esp with a savvy outfit like the Ravens. Giving up #16 and #22 overall for #9 and a 4th rounder doesn't sound right. I think we'd have to give up pick #53 at the very least to get a deal like that across...maybe more.

BTW, I'd still do it for that price because getting a stud pass rusher and a stud OT -- maybe the two linemen with the highest ceilings in the entire draft mind you, is absolutely worth it.

My thought was that Carter was consensus #1 player in the draft, so it’s not like Baltimore is trading up for some maybe okay starter, but a potential franchise player if they can weather the storm.

[The Kaiser]

Trade with Seattle: #9 for #20 and #37

Pick #20: Joey Porter Jr, CB
Pick #37: Mazi Smith, DT
Pick #53: Isaiah Foskey, DE
Pick #61: Matt Bergeron, OT
Pick #64: Joe Tippman, IOL
Pick #103: Zach Pickens, DL
Pick #133: Karl Brooks, DL
Pick #136: Roschon Johnson, RB
Pick #148: Isaiah McGuire, DE
Pick #218: Stettson Bennet, QB
Pick #248: Juice Scruggs, IOL

[Moriarty]

TDN has finally got theirs going again

A few weird things - like the actual picks and trade offers being way off the screen, so you have to scroll forever to see them.
Trades seem pretty stingy.

But, still - a new board is very welcome.


9 Broderick Jones OT, Georgia
54 Calijah Kancey 3T, Pitt
62 Kelee Ringo CB, Georgia
65 Isaiah Foskey DE, Notre Dame
104 Andre Carter DE, Army
134 Nathaniel Dell WR, Houston
137 Brandon Hill S, Pitt
150 Andrei Iosivas WR, Princeton
220 Bryce Baringer P, Michigan State
260 Karl Brooks 3T, Bowling Green

[Hoog]

This daft is for now and for securing the future. I think that is what Poles intends to do. He had the first pick and he wants to parlay that into as many picks this year and in the next few drafts as he can. So, with that being said:

Trade:
Pick #9 and #133 to New England for #14, #46, and 2024 5th round pick (they take Lukas Van Ness)

With Johnson off the board before #9 (LV trades in front of us) and Tyree Wilson also off the board, there are still a lot of OT and players Poles likes so he trades back.

Trade:
Pick #14 and pick #218 to Dallas for pick #26, #58, and 2024 2nd round pick which is actually Phillys. (they take Bijan Robinson)

Still have a lot of good lineman available at #14 and the willingness of Dallas to give up a 2nd in 2024 is the reason we move down again. Poles is now set with 5 picks within the sweet spot of the draft.

Pick #26- Darnell Wright, OT, TN
Pick #46- Adetomiwa Adebawore, DT, NW
Pick #53- Siaki Ika, DT, Baylor
Pick #58- Derick Hall, DE, Auburn
Pick #61- Tyrique Stevenson, CB, Miami/Fl
Pick #64- Sam LaPorta, TE, Iowa
Pick #103- YaYa Diaby, DE, Louisville
Pick #136- Jon Gaines, OC/OG,, UCLA
Pick #148- Jonathan Mingo, WR, Ole Miss
Pick #258- Evan Hall, RB, NW

[Hema2.0]

Time for Hema2.0 to fix these line issues with a 5 round mock draft on PFN. Traded #9 with TB for 19, 50, and 82. Traded 19 and 136 for 25 and 57 with NY GIants. Traded 61 and 148 for 63 and 122 with KC Chiefs. Realistic? Probably not. But I'd be as happy as a pig in mud with this draft.

25 Lukas Van Ness DE/Possible 3T
50 Mazi Smith DT
53 Tuli Tuipuloto DE/Possible 3T
57 Cody Mauch OT/G
63 Hendon Hooker QB
64 Blake Freeland OT
82 Joe Tippman C
103 Israel Abanikanda RB
122 Tre'vius Hodges-Tomlinson DB
133 Isaiah McGuire DE

[dplank]

I bet Tippman goes before we get to our second pick.

[crueltyabc]

PFN is not alone in having Tippman stacked behind a few other centers. JMS has lots of fans and some people are planning for Avila to play OC which puts him in the conversation. It's not crazy to thing one of those guys would fall into the 3rd if there's a run on another position on day 2

[crueltyabc]

Wow Josh Edwards (CBS Sports) apparently hates some of the guys I like. Fanspeak sim with Josh's board:

9: R1 P9 CB Christian Gonzalez - Oregon
53: R2 P22 RT Darnell Wright - Tennessee
61: R2 P30 OC Steve Avila - TCU
64: R3 P1 TE Sam LaPorta - Iowa
103: R4 P1 1T Gervon Dexter Sr. - Florida
133: R4 P31 WR AT Perry - Wake Forest
136: R5 P1 S/ST Jay Ward - LSU
148: R5 P13 LB/ST Dorian Williams - Tulane
218: R7 P1 3T Adetomiwa Adebawore - Northwestern
258: R7 P41 RB/ST Lew Nichols III - Central Michigan

[Moriarty]

I bet Tippman goes before we get to our second pick.

He could.
But it doesn't seem like he ran at his Pro Day, which I think probably will (and should) hurt him.

[wab]

I bet Tippman goes before we get to our second pick.

He could.
But it doesn't seem like he ran at his Pro Day, which I think probably will (and should) hurt him.

He had a strained hammy IIRC

[Moriarty]

He could.
But it doesn't seem like he ran at his Pro Day, which I think probably will (and should) hurt him.

He had a strained hammy IIRC

Yeah, I saw that. Probably legit.

But, regardless, when somebody's biggest appeal is Outstanding Athleticism and then they can't prove it, you've got to reel in your confidence some.

[Ditka’s dictaphone]

It’s been a while so I had another go at this PFN:

Trade: Jags get #9, Bears get # 24, 56, 88, 127 and 2024R2

24 - Broderick Jones OT Georgia

Trade : Texans get #53 and 258, Bears get # 65 and 104

56 - Adetomiwa Adebawore Edge Northwestern

Trade: Saints get #61 and 218, Bears get #71 and 115

64 - Gervon Dexter DT Florida
65 - Keeanu Benton DT Wisconsin
71 - Andre Carter II Edge Army
88 - Jordan Battle S Alabama
103 - Jayden Reed WR Michigan State
104 - Ricky Stromberg OC Arkansas
115 - Chase Brown RB Illinois
127 - Mohammed Diabate LB Utah
133 - Mekhi Garner CB LSU
136 - Garrett Williams CB Syracuse
148 - Dorian Thompson-Robinson QB UCLA

PLUS Jags 2024 R2 pick

Very happy with that.
OL - check , DL - check, Secondary - check, more weapons - check, back up QB - check.