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Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:13 am
by dplank
My read on this move is that Getsy doesn't really have a role for a WR/TE hybrid like Horsted, he prefers more classic two way TE's - guys that can block as well or better than receive. Even a "receiving TE" type in Getsy's offense probably needs a higher floor for blocking ability than Horsted provided, and so he just didn't really have a chance to make the team - and yea they did him a solid by letting him go now if they knew that.

I also think this plays a part in our OL projection and strategy. Better blocking from TE's, and being stronger at the point at C, could really help mask some talent deficiencies elsewhere - at least that's the hope. And as mentioned in the other thread, we're accumulating WR's that block with effort downfield, which will really help spring more RAC from both the short throws and in the running game. It's a complete departure from McNagy's scheme.

Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:38 am
by Rusty Trombagent
Moriarty wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 10:02 am
southdakbearfan wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 8:43 am

As opposed to Kmet, a bunch of nobodies, and another nobody named Horsted?
The other nobodies have floated around and demonstrated pretty conclusively that they aren't anything of note.
Horsted has had extremely minimal opportunity and done nothing but flash in those limited chances.

I know which one I'd rather look at. Especially in a rebuilding year.
I dont think that anyone other than some rabid bear's fans would say jesper "flashed", which makes looking at the stats of these other guys and blanket saying "they havent flashed" kind of silly.

Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:39 am
by Moriarty
dplank wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 10:13 am My read on this move is that Getsy doesn't really have a role for a WR/TE hybrid like Horsted, he prefers more classic two way TE's - guys that can block as well or better than receive. Even a "receiving TE" type in Getsy's offense probably needs a higher floor for blocking ability than Horsted provided
It's possible, maybe. But if so, I don't like it.

Looking at GB's roster, their "starter" (Lewis) was a big, slow guy. But the other 2 were little, light TEs, so I'm not so sure about that.

Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:58 am
by southdakbearfan
Moriarty wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 10:02 am
southdakbearfan wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 8:43 am

As opposed to Kmet, a bunch of nobodies, and another nobody named Horsted?
The other nobodies have floated around and demonstrated pretty conclusively that they aren't anything of note.
Horsted has had extremely minimal opportunity and done nothing but flash in those limited chances.

I know which one I'd rather look at. Especially in a rebuilding year.
Or he’s a guy that got in the game, defense just forgot or didn’t bother covering him.

50% of Bradley Sowells targets resulted in touchdowns, which just means the defense was caught off guard.

Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 11:26 am
by IE
Jesper wasn't at the voluntary minicamp nor the rookie camp that also seemed to include PS players. So it doesn't seem likely or at least plausible that he has some nagging injury that has kept him away at a time when they just plain have a lot of eval work they're trying to do on the fringes of the team.

It is possible they could bring him back for camp if he was healthy. I wouldn't bet on it given the churn they're doing on depth chart and would guess that they amicably waived him how they did so he could get paid a bit while his agent finds him some other place to try to catch on. Which he almost certainly will.

I'm going to predict that he becomes a Viking.

Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 11:29 am
by Moriarty
southdakbearfan wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 10:58 am
Moriarty wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 10:02 am

The other nobodies have floated around and demonstrated pretty conclusively that they aren't anything of note.
Horsted has had extremely minimal opportunity and done nothing but flash in those limited chances.

I know which one I'd rather look at. Especially in a rebuilding year.
Or he’s a guy that got in the game, defense just forgot or didn’t bother covering him.
Theoretically possible. But that isn't what happened.


Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 11:36 am
by dplank


Well covered

Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 4:00 pm
by RichH55
Kind of a wow thread

Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 4:44 pm
by southdakbearfan
I get it, Horsted is a cool story, kind of flashed but we had a crap show running the operation. He’s hurt and the new regime obviously has other plans. It’s not like we just cut Mooney.

This is closer to Braverman, who can’t even get it done in the CFL.

Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 7:16 pm
by dplank
Yea, I'm in no way worried about losing Horsted. My interest here was seeing how the Horsted stans that overlap with Poles stans would react to the news.

Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 8:17 pm
by Heinz D.
wab wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 9:13 am I hope he gets healthy and catches on somewhere. He's a fun dude.
He's an intriguing player, no doubt.

I hope he ends up back in Chicago! It would be nice to see what the Bears can get out of him. Instead of...whatever Nagy did.

Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 9:45 pm
by south pacific
This move doesn’t make any sense.

How could Horsted be hurt from not.playing? I don’t recall ever seeing him on the injury report. Talk about a guy who did everything he was supposed to and showed some good skills but was never given a fair chance.

I think Poles has begun an entire rebuild with “his guys” and fill in the gap players who likely won’t be here after their 1-year deals expires after the end of this season.

It’s going to make watching the 2022 Bears a bitter pill to swallow.with a bunch of “spares” playing.

Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 10:38 pm
by Arkansasbear
dplank wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 10:13 am My read on this move is that Getsy doesn't really have a role for a WR/TE hybrid like Horsted, he prefers more classic two way TE's - guys that can block as well or better than receive. Even a "receiving TE" type in Getsy's offense probably needs a higher floor for blocking ability than Horsted provided, and so he just didn't really have a chance to make the team - and yea they did him a solid by letting him go now if they knew that.

I also think this plays a part in our OL projection and strategy. Better blocking from TE's, and being stronger at the point at C, could really help mask some talent deficiencies elsewhere - at least that's the hope. And as mentioned in the other thread, we're accumulating WR's that block with effort downfield, which will really help spring more RAC from both the short throws and in the running game. It's a complete departure from McNagy's scheme.
My read is he was hurt and they needed to get more camp bodies and the pickings were slim. If this was just about him not fitting what they wanted to do, they could have cut him and paid him nothing. This way they are paying him. That to me seems to show they may want him back when/if he gets healthy.

Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 11:26 pm
by crueltyabc

Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 3:10 am
by south pacific
I hope he makes it back to the Bears. I don’t know what kind of injury he apparently is dealing with.

Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 6:43 am
by Bears Whiskey Nut
He is now back with the Bears on the PUP list. Smart move by Poles. Probably knew no one was going to claim him off waivers. Now he can work on whatever physical ailment he has without counting against the 90 man roster. Always liked him, I hope he sticks.

Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 6:49 am
by IE
Bears Whiskey Nut wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 6:43 am He is now back with the Bears on the PUP list. Smart move by Poles. Probably knew no one was going to claim him off waivers. Now he can work on whatever physical ailment he has without counting against the 90 man roster. Always liked him, I hope he sticks.
Stan-approved

Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 7:21 am
by dplank
Yay 😂

I do hope he gets a fair look and wins a job.

Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 7:47 am
by wab
crueltyabc wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 11:26 pm
By GAWD…That’s JESPER HORSTED’S music

Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 10:39 am
by The Marshall Plan
wab wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 7:47 am
crueltyabc wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 11:26 pm
By GAWD…That’s JESPER HORSTED’S music
I can see it now…

God I love this bit.

WELCOME TO………SUNDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL…..IS……..JESPER!!!!


Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 10:54 am
by IE
Richie wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 8:34 pm I would bet every dollar, that I ever make, for the rest of my life. Rendering me perpetually broke and homeless. That Jesper F'ing Horsted amounts to absolute dick in this league. Which, by the way, let's throw that into the bet! My dick... Seriously. I will bet my dick that you all are upset over a dude and condemning our new GM over a dude that never catches 20 balls in a season. Perhaps... shit... maybe not 20 in his ENTIRE career.
I'm sure your penis is safe. I mean his max so far is 4 in a game and 8 in a season. I'm sure you're safe from 1.1765 catches per game. But just in case, you might want to consider playing with a bit more before you take it off.

Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 11:00 am
by Yogi da Bear
IE wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 10:54 am
Richie wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 8:34 pm I would bet every dollar, that I ever make, for the rest of my life. Rendering me perpetually broke and homeless. That Jesper F'ing Horsted amounts to absolute dick in this league. Which, by the way, let's throw that into the bet! My dick... Seriously. I will bet my dick that you all are upset over a dude and condemning our new GM over a dude that never catches 20 balls in a season. Perhaps... shit... maybe not 20 in his ENTIRE career.
I'm sure your penis is safe. I mean his max so far is 4 in a game and 8 in a season. I'm sure you're safe from 1.1765 catches per game. But just in case, you might want to consider playing with a bit more before you take it off.
Well, I guess he can if he's only trying to call a two cent raise. lol

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 10:07 pm
by G08
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Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 1:13 am
by south pacific
…aaand he’s back!


It’s telling though that no other team wanted to make a waiver claim on him.

Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 1:15 am
by south pacific
Who was that dude that got cut and resigned about twenty times. Anyone remember? Was it Horsted?

Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 4:07 am
by The Marshall Plan
south pacific wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 1:15 am Who was that dude that got cut and resigned about twenty times. Anyone remember? Was it Horsted?
Bradley Sowell.

Another 4D Chess maneuver by the Master Strategist himself. McNagy.

It was almost like McNagy got a free sub every tenth time he did it.

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Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 12:22 pm
by Xee
Aaaand he's gone again:



Looks like Poles tried to do him a solid by letting him test the waters and when no one bit, re-signed him so he could get the settlement.

Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 12:52 pm
by The Marshall Plan
Xee wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 12:22 pm Aaaand he's gone again:



Looks like Poles tried to do him a solid by letting him test the waters and when no one bit, re-signed him so he could get the settlement.
There are times I truly hate this franchise. We are literally incapable of having any fun at all.

Good grief the McCaskey's could take a birthday party with a bouncy house, a pinata, and Bag-Os and give it the atmosphere of a funeral.

Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 1:07 pm
by spudbear
It was the best of times, it was the Horst(ed) of times. Talk about your off-season emotional roller coaster - sheesh!
And I just spent a 1:40 of my life watching his highlight "reel". They were incredible catches, not something even ARob could do.

He is a Princeton grad so maybe some of those Ivy league "smarts" can help him along his way. He could mint his own digital money: JesperCoin.

Re: Horsted cut

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 3:01 pm
by dplank
At least Poles seems intent on treating guys with respect and decency (Mack move, this one, etc). That will pay dividends down the road. Hoping the OGun thing isn’t a black mark, read another player say something about how we did him wrong…