New Coaches Talk

Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:02 pm

RustinFields wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:55 pm ANYWAY, Panthers hire Frank Reich.

And Carson Wentz's career just got revived...

Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:27 pm

RustinFields · Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:31 pm

Payton obviously has a lot of experience with a sub 6' QB, which honestly has to be attractive to the cards.

Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:35 pm

If the Cards are crazy enough to give up the 3rd pick in the draft for Payton, that's actually an amazing scenario for the Bears. Because the Saints will very obviously be looking for a QB and teams like the Colts/Panthers/Raiders will almost be forced to call the Bears.

They can't be crazy enough to give up the third pick though... right?

pus · Thu Jan 26, 2023 6:38 pm

It sounds like you're getting your hopes up, wab.

dplank · Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:43 am

wab wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:35 pm If the Cards are crazy enough to give up the 3rd pick in the draft for Payton, that's actually an amazing scenario for the Bears. Because the Saints will very obviously be looking for a QB and teams like the Colts/Panthers/Raiders will almost be forced to call the Bears.

They can't be crazy enough to give up the third pick though... right?

Does it have to be that pick? Can’t they agree to something less?

Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:56 am

dplank wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:43 am
wab wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:35 pm If the Cards are crazy enough to give up the 3rd pick in the draft for Payton, that's actually an amazing scenario for the Bears. Because the Saints will very obviously be looking for a QB and teams like the Colts/Panthers/Raiders will almost be forced to call the Bears.

They can't be crazy enough to give up the third pick though... right?
Does it have to be that pick? Can’t they agree to something less?

I'm sure it could be, but the Saints have been pretty clear that they want a first round pick for Payton. The 3rd pick though is bananas.

RustinFields · Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:02 am

Man, the fact that Irsay wants Saturday and isnt even sitting in on other interviews is fucking hilarious. Irsay's just gonna casually get his name added to Brian Flores' lawsuit.

Grizzled · Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:32 am

wab wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:02 pm
RustinFields wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:55 pm ANYWAY, Panthers hire Frank Reich.
And Carson Wentz's career just got revived...

What, Wentz is going to Canada to play? I'd hope Reich, after being burned twice by Wentz, would take a hard pass on him for Carolina save and excepting he's offered a "prove it" contract and Carolina still drafts a QB.

Grizzled · Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:33 am

The Saints can ask for whatever compensation they want, it's not carved into stone.

Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:58 am

I mean, the Saints control the whole thing... so they can ask whatever they want and if they don't get it, the Cards can't hire Payton.

pus · Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:03 am

Someone on here said they read that Payton is leaning towards a job out west, because of where his family are located.

Grizzled · Sat Jan 28, 2023 3:11 pm

pus wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:03 am Someone on here said they read that Payton is leaning towards a job out west, because of where his family are located.

He wanted one of the LA teams but the Chargers didn't boot their coach after the playoff debacle. Any word if he's still interested in Denver? Demarco Ryan appears headed to the Texans. Flores may be going to the Cards.

Shadow · Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:09 am

HisRoyalSweetness wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:21 pm Jim Harbaugh to remain as head coach for University of Michigan.

Harbaugh had a second interview even though he had recommitted to Michigan. Never say never with these guys. (Still no deal though after that interview)

RustinFields · Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:42 am

Imagine being Michigan and putting up with that horse shit every year.

pus · Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:58 am

Yep, after all his arrogance and hubris, I wouldn't mind seeing him come back to the NFL and do a classic face plant.

HisRoyalSweetness · Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:32 pm

HisRoyalSweetness wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:56 pm I see nfl.com has Vic Fangio listed as being scheduled for interview by the Falcons for their DC position.

Dolphins hiring ex-Broncos coach Vic Fangio as defensive coordinator

The Miami Dolphins snagged the most sought-after defensive coordinator candidate, Vic Fangio.

NFL Network Insider Tom Pelissero reported Sunday the Dolphins agreed to terms with Fangio on a three-year contract that makes him the highest-paid coordinator in the NFL, per sources. Pelissero adds that the pact includes a fourth-year team option.

Full article: https://www.nfl.com/news/dolphins-hirin ... oordinator

Grizzled · Sun Jan 29, 2023 4:14 pm

HisRoyalSweetness wrote: ↑Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:32 pm
HisRoyalSweetness wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:56 pm I see nfl.com has Vic Fangio listed as being scheduled for interview by the Falcons for their DC position.

Dolphins hiring ex-Broncos coach Vic Fangio as defensive coordinator

The Miami Dolphins snagged the most sought-after defensive coordinator candidate, Vic Fangio.

NFL Network Insider Tom Pelissero reported Sunday the Dolphins agreed to terms with Fangio on a three-year contract that makes him the highest-paid coordinator in the NFL, per sources. Pelissero adds that the pact includes a fourth-year team option.

Full article: https://www.nfl.com/news/dolphins-hirin ... oordinator

Interesting. Vic was linked to Sean Payton. Wonder if this means Payton's going back to the broadcast booth for at least another year. Now Miami's going to have top notch offensive and defensive minds. Doesn't always translate to success but certainly increases the chances.

dplank · Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:05 am

Vic likes to golf - a lot. Good move coming here he can golf year round lol

Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:33 pm

Denver - Their search is officially in shambles. Eagles DC Jonathan Gannon is looking like to top choice.
Arizona - Payton still in play, but they are also looking at Bill Callahan, Lorenzo Alexander, and Lou Anarumo
Carolina - Reich is the guy
Houston - Demeco Ryans is expected to take the job
Indy - It's going to be Jeff Saturday isn't it.

The Cooler King · Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:52 pm

Ryans to Houston

Payton to Denver
(some incomplete reporting on terms but seems to be a 2023 first (via SF via Miami, Chubb trade), a 2024 2nd, and NO is sending back a pick as well.

dplank · Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:53 pm

The Cooler King wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:52 pm Ryans to Houston

Payton to Denver
(some incomplete reporting on terms but seems to be a 2023 first (via SF via Miami, Chubb trade), a 2024 2nd, and NO is sending back a pick as well.

Ditka’s dictaphone · Tue Jan 31, 2023 5:13 pm

NO sending back a R3 pick.

Good deal for Denver really. Though Payton could prove to be a “one team wonder”.

Grizzled · Tue Jan 31, 2023 5:28 pm

Denver is sending a 1st this year and a 2nd next year and getting a 3rd back in '24. Vic to the Dolphins may be premature. Shanahan, knowing he was going to lose his DC, reached out to him. They have a strong relationship.

Wed Feb 01, 2023 9:19 am

Grizzled wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 5:28 pm Denver is sending a 1st this year and a 2nd next year and getting a 3rd back in '24. Vic to the Dolphins may be premature. Shanahan, knowing he was going to lose his DC, reached out to him. They have a strong relationship.

Vic is basically getting to choose between the golf scene in Florida vs California. Florida has no income tax and is a natural retirement destination. I would bet on Florida, but he could afford either.

pus · Wed Feb 01, 2023 9:41 am

California won't have water for their fairways, so no bet.

Otis Day · Wed Feb 01, 2023 9:50 am

My nephew out in Denver is NOT a happy camper about this move. I talked with another Bronc fan and they are not happy either. No real draft capitol, an aging, declining Russ and a coach they feel is overrated.

Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:08 am

Payton might give them a little boost because he will be able to design an offense around Russ, but I don't think it's sustainable.

dplank · Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:12 am

Payton is a great coach IMO. I don’t like the match with Russ but do think long term he will greatly improve that franchise.

RustinFields · Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:21 am

wab wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:08 am Payton might give them a little boost because he will be able to design an offense around Russ, but I don't think it's sustainable.

If anyone can though, it's probably Payton? 2017-2020 heat maps for Drew Brees and Russ, both short guys who dont like throwing to the middle of the field:

I still would have rather seen him take a stab at Kyler, since he's not getting that running ability with Russ that Payton's been craving all his life.