Ravens and Lamar Jackson Contract Talks
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Given their relative costs, I guess part of it depends more on whether the Jets just want a short-term fix to maximise their current 'window' or a long-term investment.
Rodgers' contract is rather complex and it's unclear to me how much the Packers would have to eat and how much his new team would take on, both in terms of cap space and cash. It still sounds like it's going to be at least as much Jackson would require over the same time period, but then with him you'd be paying for another couple of years on top.
Compensation-wise I've seen it suggested the Packers will be after two first round picks, which is the same any team tendering Jackson an offer would have to forfeit to the Ravens if they choose not to match it, but most everyone agrees they won't get that. The most common suggestion seems to be a 2023 2nd rounder and a conditional pick in 2024 that would be at least a 3rd rounder but could become a 2nd or even 1st rounder depending on performance escalators.
Rodgers' contract is rather complex and it's unclear to me how much the Packers would have to eat and how much his new team would take on, both in terms of cap space and cash. It still sounds like it's going to be at least as much Jackson would require over the same time period, but then with him you'd be paying for another couple of years on top.
Compensation-wise I've seen it suggested the Packers will be after two first round picks, which is the same any team tendering Jackson an offer would have to forfeit to the Ravens if they choose not to match it, but most everyone agrees they won't get that. The most common suggestion seems to be a 2023 2nd rounder and a conditional pick in 2024 that would be at least a 3rd rounder but could become a 2nd or even 1st rounder depending on performance escalators.
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The Jets are in a win-now mode. But I'd take Jackson, give up the 13th this year and try to talk the Ravens into a lower pick next year and have a QB for another 10 or so year. Depending, of course, on reaching a contract with Jackson before the trade.
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Why would his own union lie about this?NFL memo warns teams they are prohibited from negotiating with non-NFLPA-certified agent concerning Lamar Jackson
The NFL on Thursday sent a memo to all 32 clubs notifying them of a person who may be reaching out to teams to negotiate a deal for Lamar Jackson, whom the Baltimore Ravens placed a non-exclusive franchise tag on earlier this month.
The man in question, Ken Francis, "may be contacting clubs ... to enter negotiations with or concerning Lamar Jackson," according to the memo distributed across the league and obtained by NFL Network Insider Tom Pelissero. The league stated Francis is "prohibited" from talking to teams on Jackson's behalf.
The biggest issue with Francis' alleged attempts to talk to clubs is the fact he is not certified by the NFL Players Association. It is well known that Jackson does not have an agent, and Francis is not permitted to act as Jackson's agent, per NFLPA operating standards.
"The NFLPA has informed us that a person by the name of Ken Francis, who is not an NFLPA certified agent, may be contacting Clubs and attempting to persuade Club personnel to enter into negotiations with or concerning Lamar Jackson, who is currently under a Nonexclusive Franchise Tender with the Baltimore Ravens," the memo stated.
"As an uncertified person, Mr. Francis is prohibited from negotiating Offer Sheets or Player Contracts, or discussing potential trades on behalf of any NFL player or prospective player or assisting in or advising with respect to such negotiations.
"Clubs are reminded that, under Article 48 of the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement, an Offer Sheet, which may result in an NFL Player Contract, may only be negotiated with the player, if he is acting on his own behalf, or with the player's NFLPA certified agent. To be clear, Mr. Jackson is not currently represented by an NFLPA certified agent.
"Violation of this rule may result in disapproval of any Offer Sheet or resulting Player Contract entered into by Mr. Jackson and the new Club."
Francis most recently was pitching a home fitness invention prior to allegedly attempting to negotiate a contract for Jackson, per Pelissero.
Jackson responded to the release of the NFL memo via Twitter on Thursday, writing "Stop lying, that man never tried to negotiate for me." Jackson then posted a commercial on Twitter for a home fitness equipment he is releasing this summer with Francis.
Jackson's non-exclusive franchise tag, valued at $32.416 million, means he can negotiate with other interested teams and sign an offer sheet. The Ravens will have the first right to match any signed offer.
In order to receive an offer, Jackson will have to communicate directly with any interested club, not through Francis, or any other individual who is not certified by the NFLPA.
https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-memo-warns ... pa-certifi
Shades of the Roquan Smith situation last year. I can't for the life of me understand why these players choose not to engage a professional agent when there are multi-million dollar contracts at stake. The percentage an agent will take is a comparative drop in the ocean.
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Players not wanting to pay a couple of million to a guy/gal just to field phone calls, I can see that. This situation is different. Baltimore doesn't want to go all Deshaun Watson with Jackson. Can't blame them. At the same time no teams wants to give up 2 1sts. Jackson has in mind what he wants. Ravens have in mind what they will pay. They are not close. not sure what an agent can really do. Jackson is a guy who wants full control over negotiations. i can't blame him.
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Sounds like Lamar's gone, via Twitter:
A letter to my Fans
I want to first thank you all for all of the love and support you consistently show towards me. All of you are amazing and I appreciate y’all so much. I want you all to know not to believe everything you read about me. Let me personally answer your questions
in regards to my future plans. As of March 2nd I requested a trade from the Ravens organization for which the Ravens has not been interested in meeting my value, any and everyone that’s has met me or been around me know I love the game of football and my dream is to help a team
win the super bowl. You all are great but I had to make a business decision that was best for my family and I. No matter how far I go or where my career takes me, I’ll continue to be close to my fans of Baltimore Flock nation and the entire State of Maryland. You’ll See me again
A letter to my Fans
I want to first thank you all for all of the love and support you consistently show towards me. All of you are amazing and I appreciate y’all so much. I want you all to know not to believe everything you read about me. Let me personally answer your questions
in regards to my future plans. As of March 2nd I requested a trade from the Ravens organization for which the Ravens has not been interested in meeting my value, any and everyone that’s has met me or been around me know I love the game of football and my dream is to help a team
win the super bowl. You all are great but I had to make a business decision that was best for my family and I. No matter how far I go or where my career takes me, I’ll continue to be close to my fans of Baltimore Flock nation and the entire State of Maryland. You’ll See me again
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That would be........awesome. Cause GB is going nowhere with or without Rodgers at this point.
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SUBTEXT: If they pay me - fully guaranteed - its all good thoughUOK wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:04 am Sounds like Lamar's gone, via Twitter:
A letter to my Fans
I want to first thank you all for all of the love and support you consistently show towards me. All of you are amazing and I appreciate y’all so much. I want you all to know not to believe everything you read about me. Let me personally answer your questions
in regards to my future plans. As of March 2nd I requested a trade from the Ravens organization for which the Ravens has not been interested in meeting my value, any and everyone that’s has met me or been around me know I love the game of football and my dream is to help a team
win the super bowl. You all are great but I had to make a business decision that was best for my family and I. No matter how far I go or where my career takes me, I’ll continue to be close to my fans of Baltimore Flock nation and the entire State of Maryland. You’ll See me again