Ever since the Bears traded down to 9, Skoronski has been mentioned by many here and he's now the mock draft favorite and I just don't get it.
Someone explain to me why he gets so much love. He's literally Cody Whitehair.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/peter-sko ... 8e7b2fe41f
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/cody-whit ... c67d57a346
Is that worth the 9th overall pick?
Explain the Skoronski love to me please
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I'm with you on this one. I have heard several in the media (mostly people who come on WSCR) mention how he can play anywhere on the line. I guess the one thing that stood out as a differentiator from the combine is that Skoronski is a lot stronger (based on Bench Press reps) than Whitehair was, but this is one pick that wouldn't excite me very much if they made it on draft day.
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Good technique for a college player is my view but I wouldn’t draft him at 9.
Technique only gets you so far, I reckon Floyd Mayweather would think twice about boxing Tyson in his prime.
I wouldn’t draft him, I don’t think any of the OTs in the draft are worth a sub-100 overall draft pick. A real bang average bunch of guys who will get flattened in the NFL.
Technique only gets you so far, I reckon Floyd Mayweather would think twice about boxing Tyson in his prime.
I wouldn’t draft him, I don’t think any of the OTs in the draft are worth a sub-100 overall draft pick. A real bang average bunch of guys who will get flattened in the NFL.
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wab wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:45 am Ever since the Bears traded down to 9, Skoronski has been mentioned by many here and he's now the mock draft favorite and I just don't get it.
Someone explain to me why he gets so much love. He's literally Cody Whitehair.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/peter-sko ... 8e7b2fe41f
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/cody-whit ... c67d57a346
Is that worth the 9th overall pick?
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I mean... they already have a left tackle tho. A good one. Displacing Jones for another Charles Leno (with much shorter arms) would be disappointing.G08 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:51 amwab wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:45 am Ever since the Bears traded down to 9, Skoronski has been mentioned by many here and he's now the mock draft favorite and I just don't get it.
Someone explain to me why he gets so much love. He's literally Cody Whitehair.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/peter-sko ... 8e7b2fe41f
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/cody-whit ... c67d57a346
Is that worth the 9th overall pick?
I think I'd be upset if they took Skoronski at 9 as a LT. At maybe 29 as a center/guard...fine. Not 9.
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The love for Skoronski is
1. He's a Northwestern guy, so meatball express
2. He's the best plug-and-play offensive lineman in the draft, with a low ceiling and high floor
I would be underwhelmed but accepting if he was selected. Sadly my biggest problem with Skoronski is that he was born in the Chicago area but grew up a fucking Packers fan.
1. He's a Northwestern guy, so meatball express
2. He's the best plug-and-play offensive lineman in the draft, with a low ceiling and high floor
I would be underwhelmed but accepting if he was selected. Sadly my biggest problem with Skoronski is that he was born in the Chicago area but grew up a fucking Packers fan.
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Plus just imagine your favorite WSCR caller saying, "dat Skrawnski guy, dere's just sometin' about im, bloo-collar kinda fella, real lunchpail type guy!"The Marshall Plan wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:09 amTHIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
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Kidding aside, I think you can slot this kid anywhere on the offensive line, which has value but not the only reason you draft him at #9 overall.
I like his functional strength, balance and technique. If this indeed is our draft choice, I think you'll see him at RT unless/until Braxton Jones gets hurt or demonstrates he can't play LT well in the NFL. If we are hell-bent on drafting an OT with our first pick, and have similar grades among Skoronski, Johnson and Jones, I'd rather trade back and draft whomever is remaining.
I do think the Charles Leno redux is adding to your disdain for the kid, which warms my cold, dead heart
Leno: 6037/303/1.81-3.03-5.25/9'4" broad/4.40 shuttle/7.57 cone/34.375" arms
Skoronski: 6040/313/1.75-?-5.16/9'7" broad/7.80 cone/32.25" arms
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In Skoronski's defense, his grandfather played for the Packers - so I cut him a little slack there.UOK wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:02 am The love for Skoronski is
1. He's a Northwestern guy, so meatball express
2. He's the best plug-and-play offensive lineman in the draft, with a low ceiling and high floor
I would be underwhelmed but accepting if he was selected. Sadly my biggest problem with Skoronski is that he was born in the Chicago area but grew up a fucking Packers fan.
I follow NU Football (my dad went there), but I don't like Skoronski at 9 - not because he's not a good player, but because I don't want to draft a guard at 9 (and that's what he is, despite the claims of others otherwise). I think if you draft Cody Mauch in Round 2 (probably need to move up for him), you get that same high level of multi-position skill. If you want a tackle at 9 - look at Paris Johnson or my favorite OT Broderick Jones who have the physical traits.
At 9, I go Edge or 3T - Carter, Wilson or Van Ness all work for me.
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If his character checks out, I want Carter at #9. If not or he's not there, Van Ness would be a solid get. Curious if we want him at 3T or DE thoughwulfy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:17 amIn Skoronski's defense, his grandfather played for the Packers - so I cut him a little slack there.UOK wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:02 am The love for Skoronski is
1. He's a Northwestern guy, so meatball express
2. He's the best plug-and-play offensive lineman in the draft, with a low ceiling and high floor
I would be underwhelmed but accepting if he was selected. Sadly my biggest problem with Skoronski is that he was born in the Chicago area but grew up a fucking Packers fan.
I follow NU Football (my dad went there), but I don't like Skoronski at 9 - not because he's not a good player, but because I don't want to draft a guard at 9 (and that's what he is, despite the claims of others otherwise). I think if you draft Cody Mauch in Round 2 (probably need to move up for him), you get that same high level of multi-position skill. If you want a tackle at 9 - look at Paris Johnson or my favorite OT Broderick Jones who have the physical traits.
At 9, I go Edge or 3T - Carter, Wilson or Van Ness all work for me.
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I don’t have disdain for him, I just don’t get why people think he’d be a good pick at 9.G08 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:14 amKidding aside, I think you can slot this kid anywhere on the offensive line, which has value but not the only reason you draft him at #9 overall.
I like his functional strength, balance and technique. If this indeed is our draft choice, I think you'll see him at RT unless/until Braxton Jones gets hurt or demonstrates he can't play LT well in the NFL. If we are hell-bent on drafting an OT with our first pick, and have similar grades among Skoronski, Johnson and Jones, I'd rather trade back and draft whomever is remaining.
I do think the Charles Leno redux is adding to your disdain for the kid, which warms my cold, dead heart
Leno: 6037/303/1.81-3.03-5.25/9'4" broad/4.40 shuttle/7.57 cone/34.375" arms
Skoronski: 6040/313/1.75-?-5.16/9'7" broad/7.80 cone/32.25" arms
Also - remember how absolutely terrible Leno was when they tried him at RT?
Anywho, he’s more Whitehair to me than Leno.
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At least he came by it honestly: his granddad is the vet who told Bill Curry not to cut Doug Atkins, "because if you do, first thing he does, he's going to kill you. And then he's going to kill me."UOK wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:02 am The love for Skoronski is
1. He's a Northwestern guy, so meatball express
2. He's the best plug-and-play offensive lineman in the draft, with a low ceiling and high floor
I would be underwhelmed but accepting if he was selected. Sadly my biggest problem with Skoronski is that he was born in the Chicago area but grew up a fucking Packers fan.
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I feel the Leno hate flowing through you my brother (do you still have the shirt, btw?)wab wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:20 amI don’t have disdain for him, I just don’t get why people think he’d be a good pick at 9.G08 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:14 am
Kidding aside, I think you can slot this kid anywhere on the offensive line, which has value but not the only reason you draft him at #9 overall.
I like his functional strength, balance and technique. If this indeed is our draft choice, I think you'll see him at RT unless/until Braxton Jones gets hurt or demonstrates he can't play LT well in the NFL. If we are hell-bent on drafting an OT with our first pick, and have similar grades among Skoronski, Johnson and Jones, I'd rather trade back and draft whomever is remaining.
I do think the Charles Leno redux is adding to your disdain for the kid, which warms my cold, dead heart
Leno: 6037/303/1.81-3.03-5.25/9'4" broad/4.40 shuttle/7.57 cone/34.375" arms
Skoronski: 6040/313/1.75-?-5.16/9'7" broad/7.80 cone/32.25" arms
Also - remember how absolutely terrible Leno was when they tried him at RT?
Anywho, he’s more Whitehair to me than Leno.
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His football IQ and athleticism, especially his footwork, allow him to hold his own despite his arm length. He is the top rated OT by more than one analyst. He's also rated by Poles in his top tier of prospective draft picks at #9.
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Totally with you on this, I don't understand it at all. Paris Johnson or Broderick Jones at 9. I'm one of the few who wanted to draft an oline with our first rounder weeks ago and yet I'd still be pretty upset if they go with Skoronski. I'd rather have them just draft defense if Skoronski is the pick. The let down would make me feel the same way I felt when we picked Shea instead of any of the other better DEs available.wab wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:45 am Ever since the Bears traded down to 9, Skoronski has been mentioned by many here and he's now the mock draft favorite and I just don't get it.
Someone explain to me why he gets so much love. He's literally Cody Whitehair.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/peter-sko ... 8e7b2fe41f
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/cody-whit ... c67d57a346
Is that worth the 9th overall pick?
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I would be more than underwhelmed. It would generate many questions in my mind about the Bears' ability to correctly assign valuation to a draft pick.UOK wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:02 am The love for Skoronski is
1. He's a Northwestern guy, so meatball express
2. He's the best plug-and-play offensive lineman in the draft, with a low ceiling and high floor
I would be underwhelmed but accepting if he was selected. Sadly my biggest problem with Skoronski is that he was born in the Chicago area but grew up a fucking Packers fan.
Skoronski is a nice player. He's skilled, is a solid NFL athlete, and appears to have good intangibles.
His size and athleticism are not NFL-rare, and he is unlikely to play a high-demand position in the NFL. Those factors make it difficult to justify a top-20 pick on him.
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That's all well and good, but as a Polish-American, I dont think that you have considered the following: SKORONSKIthunderspirit wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:51 amI would be more than underwhelmed. It would generate many questions in my mind about the Bears' ability to correctly assign valuation to a draft pick.UOK wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:02 am The love for Skoronski is
1. He's a Northwestern guy, so meatball express
2. He's the best plug-and-play offensive lineman in the draft, with a low ceiling and high floor
I would be underwhelmed but accepting if he was selected. Sadly my biggest problem with Skoronski is that he was born in the Chicago area but grew up a fucking Packers fan.
Skoronski is a nice player. He's skilled, is a solid NFL athlete, and appears to have good intangibles.
His size and athleticism are not NFL-rare, and he is unlikely to play a high-demand position in the NFL. Those factors make it difficult to justify a top-20 pick on him.
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Was just gonna post this .... his last name ends in SKI, 'nuff said
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His athleticism is pretty great actually. It's just the arms and height that are cause for question.thunderspirit wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:51 amI would be more than underwhelmed. It would generate many questions in my mind about the Bears' ability to correctly assign valuation to a draft pick.UOK wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:02 am The love for Skoronski is
1. He's a Northwestern guy, so meatball express
2. He's the best plug-and-play offensive lineman in the draft, with a low ceiling and high floor
I would be underwhelmed but accepting if he was selected. Sadly my biggest problem with Skoronski is that he was born in the Chicago area but grew up a fucking Packers fan.
Skoronski is a nice player. He's skilled, is a solid NFL athlete, and appears to have good intangibles.
His size and athleticism are not NFL-rare, and he is unlikely to play a high-demand position in the NFL. Those factors make it difficult to justify a top-20 pick on him.
But just as few point of references
RAS as OT and OG
Skoronski : 9.02 - 9.71
Whitehair : 7.11 - 8.08
B Jones : 8.42 - 9.37
Jenkins : 9.71 - 9.97
So he's at least a 90% rare prospect. In NFL it's probably still 80-85% percentile. Even as a OT.
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Skoronski started at RT as a true freshman. If you’re not dogmatic about arm length, he can potentially play all five positions.wab wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:20 amI don’t have disdain for him, I just don’t get why people think he’d be a good pick at 9.G08 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:14 am
Kidding aside, I think you can slot this kid anywhere on the offensive line, which has value but not the only reason you draft him at #9 overall.
I like his functional strength, balance and technique. If this indeed is our draft choice, I think you'll see him at RT unless/until Braxton Jones gets hurt or demonstrates he can't play LT well in the NFL. If we are hell-bent on drafting an OT with our first pick, and have similar grades among Skoronski, Johnson and Jones, I'd rather trade back and draft whomever is remaining.
I do think the Charles Leno redux is adding to your disdain for the kid, which warms my cold, dead heart
Leno: 6037/303/1.81-3.03-5.25/9'4" broad/4.40 shuttle/7.57 cone/34.375" arms
Skoronski: 6040/313/1.75-?-5.16/9'7" broad/7.80 cone/32.25" arms
Also - remember how absolutely terrible Leno was when they tried him at RT?
Anywho, he’s more Whitehair to me than Leno.
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I'll certainly concede his explosion tests (vertical and broad) are terrific, well above the 75% percentile. At G, his agility is right about the 50th percentile (7.80 vs. 7.805 median), and his 10-yard split is a little above average.The Cooler King wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:08 pmHis athleticism is pretty great actually. It's just the arms and height that are cause for question.thunderspirit wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:51 am
I would be more than underwhelmed. It would generate many questions in my mind about the Bears' ability to correctly assign valuation to a draft pick.
Skoronski is a nice player. He's skilled, is a solid NFL athlete, and appears to have good intangibles.
His size and athleticism are not NFL-rare, and he is unlikely to play a high-demand position in the NFL. Those factors make it difficult to justify a top-20 pick on him.
But just as few point of references
RAS as OT and OG
Skoronski : 9.02 - 9.71
Whitehair : 7.11 - 8.08
B Jones : 8.42 - 9.37
Jenkins : 9.71 - 9.97
So he's at least a 90% rare prospect. In NFL it's probably still 80-85% percentile. Even as a OT.
A good prospect, and some elite traits (not least of which are his intangibles and intelligence). I absolutely think he's a first-rounder. Just, I'd let someone else roll dice on him as high as he's being projected.
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Yea I'm not necessarily trying to stan him at 9. If I had a strong opinion of him at OT, maybe, but I don't want a G in top 10.thunderspirit wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:34 pmI'll certainly concede his explosion tests (vertical and broad) are terrific, well above the 75% percentile. At G, his agility is right about the 50th percentile (7.80 vs. 7.805 median), and his 10-yard split is a little above average.The Cooler King wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:08 pm
His athleticism is pretty great actually. It's just the arms and height that are cause for question.
But just as few point of references
RAS as OT and OG
Skoronski : 9.02 - 9.71
Whitehair : 7.11 - 8.08
B Jones : 8.42 - 9.37
Jenkins : 9.71 - 9.97
So he's at least a 90% rare prospect. In NFL it's probably still 80-85% percentile. Even as a OT.
A good prospect, and some elite traits (not least of which are his intangibles and intelligence). I absolutely think he's a first-rounder. Just, I'd let someone else roll dice on him as high as he's being projected.
But whoever drafts him, whether they plop him at OT and OG is definitely getting a athlete and not just a technician/try hard.
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@wab He's basically a slightly less athletic Rashawn Slater (went #13 overall to the Chargers and is playing quite well at LT for them).
Slater: 6042/304/1.68-2.89-4.91/33 reps/33" vert/9'4" broad/4.45 shuttle/7.48 cone/33" arms
Skoronski: 6040/313/1.75-?-5.16/30 reps/34.5" vert/9'7" broad/no shuttle/7.80 cone/32.25" arms
Slater: 6042/304/1.68-2.89-4.91/33 reps/33" vert/9'4" broad/4.45 shuttle/7.48 cone/33" arms
Skoronski: 6040/313/1.75-?-5.16/30 reps/34.5" vert/9'7" broad/no shuttle/7.80 cone/32.25" arms
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But at #9?G08 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:45 pm @wab He's basically a slightly less athletic Rashawn Slater (went #13 overall to the Chargers and is playing quite well at LT for them).
Slater: 6042/304/1.68-2.89-4.91/33 reps/33" vert/9'4" broad/4.45 shuttle/7.48 cone/33" arms
Skoronski: 6040/313/1.75-?-5.16/30 reps/34.5" vert/9'7" broad/no shuttle/7.80 cone/32.25" arms
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Admittedly we all end up with arbitrary cutoffs, but 9 to 13 isn't far off, before we even get into judging the individual classes and how that impacts where two equal prospects might fall.wab wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:49 pmBut at #9?G08 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:45 pm @wab He's basically a slightly less athletic Rashawn Slater (went #13 overall to the Chargers and is playing quite well at LT for them).
Slater: 6042/304/1.68-2.89-4.91/33 reps/33" vert/9'4" broad/4.45 shuttle/7.48 cone/33" arms
Skoronski: 6040/313/1.75-?-5.16/30 reps/34.5" vert/9'7" broad/no shuttle/7.80 cone/32.25" arms
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If he’s the guy at 9 then I’ll be displeased. But we will cross that bridge when we get there.
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Of all the players mocked in that range I like him the least.wab wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:45 am Ever since the Bears traded down to 9, Skoronski has been mentioned by many here and he's now the mock draft favorite and I just don't get it.
Someone explain to me why he gets so much love. He's literally Cody Whitehair.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/peter-sko ... 8e7b2fe41f
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/cody-whit ... c67d57a346
Is that worth the 9th overall pick?
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He could be a starter or YEARS if he plays like he shows..Would be good to have his area locked down for a long time and a guy RBs and Fields could absolutely depend on. Yes I would like to get him as later..but this guy will go..
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G08 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:45 pm @wab He's basically a slightly less athletic Rashawn Slater (went #13 overall to the Chargers and is playing quite well at LT for them).
Slater: 6042/304/1.68-2.89-4.91/33 reps/33" vert/9'4" broad/4.45 shuttle/7.48 cone/33" arms
Skoronski: 6040/313/1.75-?-5.16/30 reps/34.5" vert/9'7" broad/no shuttle/7.80 cone/32.25" arms
Who's the shortest armed LT in the league of average or better quality?
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