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Arkansasbear wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:14 pm
alexwilkins wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:36 pm I’m not sure not getting Marv is the end of the world. Obviously, if you're in position to get the best, you get the best, but this receiver class frickin deep.

FSU didn’t have a super dynamic passing game, especially after Jordan Travis got hurt, but Keon Coleman is an absolute playmaker. 6’3” 215. And he returned punts, so you know he’s got wheels.
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Did a lot of trades. Basically amounts to trading down from 9 for 28, 51, 81, fR3, fR4 and a some spare change

gave up 9, 142
got 28, 51, 84, 169, 170, 177, 195, 234, 251, fR3, fR4, 2fR5, fR6, 2fR7


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* Tip: there's a weird glitch where, when it reports the trade summary at the end of the draft, sometimes it remembers the future picks that were involved and sometimes it doesn't. I wasn't sure at first if I was just confused and misremembering, but I've definitely confirmed it now. *


Draft strategy assumes at least an adequate DE2, WR2, C picked up in free agency


1 Caleb Williams QB | USC USC
6005 215 4.5
Hope: Great athlete who can see and read the field

28 Kamren Kinchens FS | Miami (FL) Miami (FL)TRADE
5112 205 4.5
Hope: Career starter who tackles and produces turnovers

51 Patrick Paul OT | Houston HoustonTRADE
6071 315 5.15
Again, didn't intend this, but was just the best available. If he disappoints, he's a strong backup. But, after a year, if you like him, you could also move Wright inside and Paul to RT. Or Paul to LT and flip Braxton for picks.

75 Zach Frazier C | West Virginia West Virginia
6025 315 5.25
Hope: Power, leverage, experience overcome meh agility, making a career starter, beginning in year 2

84 Jalen McMillan WR | Washington WashingtonTRADE
6005 190 4.45
110 Roman Wilson WR | Michigan Michigan
5104 185 4.3
Hope: Adequate WR3-5 in year 1, growing into quality WR3/4 or even WR2

122 Ben Sinnott TE | Kansas State Kansas State
6040 255 4.65
Hope: solid, well-rounded TE2, good receiver who can be used lots of ways

169 Tory Taylor P | Iowa IowaTRADE
6036 230
Hope: a career plus

170 Rasheen Ali HB | Marshall MarshallTRADE
5113 205 4.45
I see people are finally catching on. 173 is the highest ranking I've ever seen for him. Can take Foreman or Homer's spot. Upside to get much higher on the depth chart.

177 Mason McCormick G | South Dakota State South Dakota StateTRADE
6040 310 5.25
Hope: Stronger depth behind the Unavailable Twins, and maybe makes one expendable in 1-2 years.

195 Brevyn Spann-Ford TE | Minnesota MinnesotaTRADE
6065 265 4.75
Hope: Younger Marcedes Lewis lite. Huge blocker who isn't bad at catching

234 Eyabi Okie DE | Michigan MichiganTRADE
6041 245 4.6
Something of a headcase (5 teams in college), but an ex-5 star recruit, with good measurables and some production. Enough upside for a flyer.

251 Justin Rogers 1T | Auburn AuburnTRADE
6022 340 5.25
Hope: Effective backup
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Moriarty wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:41 am Did a lot of trades. Basically amounts to trading down from 9 for 28, 51, 81, fR3, fR4 and a some spare change
Excellent mock; love the double-down on TEs. That's precisely the way I hope we'll go if we fill out that corps through the draft.
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PFN. One trade: 1.1 (Caleb Williams) to New England for 1.3, 2.34, 3.68, 2025 1st, 2025 2nd.

Let's say our big FA signings are S, swing tackle and IOL. With a rotational DE or two and the usual end-of-the rotation shuffle of WRs and RBs and such.

1.3: Jayden Daniels, QB, LSU.
He's got more to work on than Williams or Maye, but from what I've seen it's all easily correctable if he's got his head screwed on straight. Which he seems to. And then, watch out.

1.9: Brock Bowers, TE, Georgia.
What's better: MHJ against a CB and a safety, or Bowers one-on-one with a LB or safety? Yeah, the answer is probably still MHJ, but not by much. Bowers lets Kmet run the routes he likes best while becoming a young QB room's best friend.

2.34: Jackson Powers-Johnson, C, Oregon.
Because.

3.68: Bralen Trice, DE, Washington.
To be honest, I took Darius Robinson. That'll never happen, so let's say Bralen Trice, who went two picks later. Still, another big, athletic DE.

3.75: Jalen McMillan, WR, Washington.
Athletically gifted and fast, but plays like a guy who needs to run great routes and catch everything cleanly, too. Similar profile to MHJ, really, just a smaller size advantage.

4.110: Braden Fiske, DT, Florida St.
I'm a bigger fan of Justin Jones than most, but adding Fiske would be like sticking a lightly wounded wild boar in the middle of our line.

4.122: Isaiah Adams, IOL, Illinois
He seems solid. He's an Illinois guy. We're still shoring up our IOL. 'Nuf for me.
EDIT: He's also #1 on the CFL Scouting Bureau list. I suggest you let that one marinate.

5.142: Rasheen Ali, RB, Marshall
Why not? I love his balance and vision; while he's not the Weeble that Kareem Hunt was in his prime, he's similar. And faster.
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I've already played through a lot of scenarios when we use the first pick for a QB. The 9th pick usually includes interesting players for whom there are realistic trade offers. I would definitely trade the 9th pick.

I find it interesting to trade from 9 to the middle of the first round. An additional 2nd and 3rd is certainly realistic here. The middle of the first round usually still includes top DE but also WR Coleman.

Trading to the end of the first round would primarily mean more future picks. I'm not sure whether a double trade down, into the middle and then to the end is realistic.

Here's a nice example in which I was able to address important needs. There was only one trade down with the Jaguars grabbing Bowers. You always have to keep in mind that there would be another pick for Fields (for example for a OC/OG).
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Did a dual draft on PFN and NFL Mock Draft Database, was able to grab the same players and make the trade with NE on both sites. This was a run it back with Fields version.

3. Marvin Harrison Jr., WR Ohio State
18. Byron Murphy II, DT Texas
34. Graham Barton, OG Duke
49. Adisa Isaac, EDGE Penn State
68. Calen Bullock, S USC
75. Max Melton, CB Rutgers
110. Jaheim Bell, TE Florida State
122. MarShawn Lloyd, RB USC
142. Tory Taylor, P Iowa

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2025 NE 2nd
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No stud DE in the first round, some depth later on. In keeping with the NFL today and contrary to past Bears drafts, almost entirely offensive players. Either keep Fields while McCarthy sits and learns or trade Fields for a 2nd and ? Beef up the OL even move.
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Fanspeak/Goodberry Consensus board

1.9 for 1.31, 2.17, 2.31, 3.16, 3.30, 4.15 (double trade down)
3.16 for 4.3, 5.2, 6.4, 7.11
4.15 for 4.29, 5.22


1: R1 P1 QB Drake Maye - UNC
6043 230 4.6
Whichever one, I don't have a preference right now

31: R1 P31 FS Kamren Kinchens - Miami FL
5112 205 4.5
Hope: Career starter who tackles and produces turnovers

49: R2 P17 DE Chris Braswell - Alabama
6032 255 4.55
Hope: Starts as 3rd outside rusher on pass downs, maybe grows into 2nd and/or everydown player

63: R2 P31 T/G Kiran Amegadjie - Yale
6050 325 5.1
Should at least be a starter inside or high-end backup outside, maybe an outside starter

75: R3 P11 WR Johnny Wilson - Florida State
6061 235 4.6
WR4 to start with, ideally working his way up to starting, eventually

94: R3 P30 TE Cade Stover - Ohio State
6036 250 4.7
Well-rounded TE2

103: R4 P3 CB/FS Cam Hart - Notre Dame
6026 205 4.45
Depth with upside for either spot

110: R4 P10 WR/PR Ainias Smith - Texas A&M
5092 200 4.35
Possibly pushes Velus out, since he's got the speed and can do the punt returning Velus can't

122: R4 P22 LB Jaylan Ford - Texas
6022 240 4.65
Takes Cole's job on ST and hopefully has more to offer as a backup

129: R4 P29 G/C Beaux Limmer - Arkansas
6044 300 5.15
More OL depth badly needed

138: R5 P2 P Tory Taylor - Iowa
6036 230
Hope: a career plus

145: R5 P9 TE Brevyn Spann-Ford - Minnesota
6065 265 4.75
Hope: Younger Marcedes Lewis lite. Huge blocker who isn't bad in the pass game at all

158: R5 P22 SS Kitan Oladapo - Oregon State
6021 220 4.55
Right now there's Brisker + bodies at S. Hope: Career backup who you can use a little creatively with his size

179: R6 P4 HB Rasheen Ali - Marshall
5113 205 4.45
Whether he just misses camp, or you IR him for some/all of the year, still totally worth it

230: R7 P11 1T Justin Rogers - Auburn
6022 340 5.25
Hope: Effective backup
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I find it weird that so many are mocking a WR to us in the first (in some way, shape or form).

We have Moore. Do we really need two #1 receivers? And, wide receivers are known to be...well, let's be nice and say, "Kinda moody". Aren't you just asking for locker room friction if you draft another #1, just a year after acquiring Moore?
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From Sports Mockery. I like except for Fiske, I'd grab another husky nasty OG for insurance:

Trade Fields and a 3rd to Pitt for 1-20
Trade 1-1 to Washington for 1-2, 2-40 and a 2025 1st
Trade 1-2 to NE for1-3, 2-34, and a 2025 2nd

1-3: MHJ, WR, OSU
1-9: JJ McCarthy, QB, Michigan
1-20: Jackson Powers-Austin, C, Oregon
2-34: Darius Robinsin, DE, Missouri
Trade 2-40 to Cincy for 2-49, a 4th, and a 5th
2-39: Brandon Fiske, DT, FSU
4th: Kalen King, CB, Penn State
Marshawn Lloyd, RB, USC
Jadeyn Hicks, S, Washington State
5th: Cornelious Johnson, WR, Michigan
Theo Johnson, TE, Penn State
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I don't see any point doing these without taking Caleb Williams 1st anymore....I'd be shocked if he is not the Bears' starting QB this fall. I would of liked an Edge somewhere, but there were no good values whenerver I was on the board. Felt good loading up on Day 2 picks from Detroit for #9.

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1. Caleb Williams, QB USC
29. Byron Murphy II, DT Texas
61. Xavier Legette, WR South Carolina
73. Sedrick Van Pran, OC Georgia
75. Cole Bishop, S Utah
92. Audric Estime. RB Notre Dame
123. Ricky Pearsall, WR Florida
143. Jared Wiley, TE TCU

2025 DET 2nd
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Z Bear wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:40 am I don't see any point doing these without taking Caleb Williams 1st anymore....I'd be shocked if he is not the Bears' starting QB this fall. I would of liked an Edge somewhere, but there were no good values whenerver I was on the board. Felt good loading up on Day 2 picks from Detroit for #9.

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1. Caleb Williams, QB USC
29. Byron Murphy II, DT Texas
61. Xavier Legette, WR South Carolina
73. Sedrick Van Pran, OC Georgia
75. Cole Bishop, S Utah
92. Audric Estime. RB Notre Dame
123. Ricky Pearsall, WR Florida
143. Jared Wiley, TE TCU

2025 DET 2nd
Nice! There are lots of good Senior Bowl performers in this group! I like Legette despite his measuring smaller.
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Heinz D. wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:04 pm I find it weird that so many are mocking a WR to us in the first (in some way, shape or form).

We have Moore. Do we really need two #1 receivers? And, wide receivers are known to be...well, let's be nice and say, "Kinda moody". Aren't you just asking for locker room friction if you draft another #1, just a year after acquiring Moore?
I think you want 3 play-makers so opponents can't just put their best defender on one and scheme the other away. Probably Caleb/Justin can count #2 but Kmet, Johnson, and Herbert are good players at their positions who aren't really guys who will always win 1-on-1s against average defenders. Considering the lack of even average talent at the WR position, it makes sense to add to that group.

Plus there's like 1 good TE and no good RBs in this draft so WR it is!
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Heinz D. wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:04 pm I find it weird that so many are mocking a WR to us in the first (in some way, shape or form).

We have Moore. Do we really need two #1 receivers? And, wide receivers are known to be...well, let's be nice and say, "Kinda moody". Aren't you just asking for locker room friction if you draft another #1, just a year after acquiring Moore?
Well there are currently only three receivers on the roster... so they are gonna have to do something.
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crueltyabc wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:19 pm I think you want 3 play-makers so opponents can't just put their best defender on one and scheme the other away. Probably Caleb/Justin can count #2 but Kmet, Johnson, and Herbert are good players at their positions who aren't really guys who will always win 1-on-1s against average defenders. Considering the lack of even average talent at the WR position, it makes sense to add to that group.

Plus there's like 1 good TE and no good RBs in this draft so WR it is!
I'm not gonna pound the table AGAINST taking a WR...but at #9? I dunno. I'm sure they'll add a WR in free agency, and probably even re-sign Mooney.

I'd be happy with something going on where we could get Harrison, or stay put and get Odunze...but to be honest, if we're going for another offensive weapon (this, of course, being for Williams, presumably)--I'd be happier trading up for Bowers.
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