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This.The Grizzly One wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2023 12:07 pm Kadarius Toney was the Lions MVP for the game.
Dude single-handedly lost the game.
Coaching, passing threat help a lot.crueltyabc wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:28 pm David Montgomery looking like everything he said was right
Jared Goff is an NFL QB - so Montgomery doesnt need to split time in the backfield with multiple other Running Backssouthdakbearfan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:46 pmCoaching, passing threat help a lot.crueltyabc wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:28 pm David Montgomery looking like everything he said was right
His ypc has dropped from 4.0 last year with the Bears to 3.8
I had more fun watching them spank the Packers than I did watching any Bears game this season. Fucking hell.
Well when you're busy running in TDs from 3, 2 and 1 yards that will bring your ypc down a bit. So will being used at the end of games to run down the clock.
Whereas Getsy would use him on 3rd and 18 in the second quarterHisRoyalSweetness wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:40 pmWell when you're busy running in TDs from 3, 2 and 1 yards that will bring your ypc down a bit. So will being used at the end of games to run down the clock.
His quarter splits are 3.9/3.7/3.5/3.9 so late game isn't wrecking his average.HisRoyalSweetness wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:40 pm Well when you're busy running in TDs from 3, 2 and 1 yards that will bring your ypc down a bit. So will being used at the end of games to run down the clock.
I knew Moriarty was going do the work on this one before I even got to this post.Moriarty wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:50 amHis quarter splits are 3.9/3.7/3.5/3.9 so late game isn't wrecking his average.HisRoyalSweetness wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:40 pm Well when you're busy running in TDs from 3, 2 and 1 yards that will bring your ypc down a bit. So will being used at the end of games to run down the clock.
And if you take out all 4 TD runs (and assume lengths of 3,2,1,1) (which you'd also need to do to his Bears numbers to be comparable), you still only bump up from 3.8 to 3.9
No matter how you dice, the numbers still say "Montgomery did the same or slightly better with the Bears "terrible OL" than he does with the Lions "good OL".
David Montgomery knew it was better to take less money and go to the Lions versus staying with the Bears. He was smarter than us Bears Fans as he had inside knowlege of this Staff.crueltyabc wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:28 pm David Montgomery looking like everything he said was right
wow, David got ground to a pulp for 4 years behind the bear's OL and now he's not quite as effective at breaking tackles. Glad you're on the case, sherlock!Moriarty wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:50 amHis quarter splits are 3.9/3.7/3.5/3.9 so late game isn't wrecking his average.HisRoyalSweetness wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:40 pm Well when you're busy running in TDs from 3, 2 and 1 yards that will bring your ypc down a bit. So will being used at the end of games to run down the clock.
And if you take out all 4 TD runs (and assume lengths of 3,2,1,1) (which you'd also need to do to his Bears numbers to be comparable), you still only bump up from 3.8 to 3.9
No matter how you dice, the numbers still say "Montgomery did the same or slightly better with the Bears "terrible OL" than he does with the Lions "good OL".
I second ... that really was fun
Well, I think it would have helped to know.RustinFields wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 7:41 amwow, David got ground to a pulp for 4 years behind the bear's OL and now he's not quite as effective at breaking tackles. Glad you're on the case, sherlock!Moriarty wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:50 am
His quarter splits are 3.9/3.7/3.5/3.9 so late game isn't wrecking his average.
And if you take out all 4 TD runs (and assume lengths of 3,2,1,1) (which you'd also need to do to his Bears numbers to be comparable), you still only bump up from 3.8 to 3.9
No matter how you dice, the numbers still say "Montgomery did the same or slightly better with the Bears "terrible OL" than he does with the Lions "good OL".
Also, i'm not even sure what you're arguing about?
With the ‘real deal’ Lions, David Montgomery ready to face his former team
When the Lions ran onto the turf at Soldier Field a year ago this week, David Montgomery had little reason to respect them. The running back had only lost to them once in his Bears career. He viewed the contests as “stat games,” he told Lions reporters this week, and would, at least figuratively, circle the dates of their games.
“Last year it was a whole different story,” Montgomery said.
The first time they met, in Week 10 last year, the Lions won 31-30.
“I’m like, ‘Maybe it was a fluke,’” he said.
The next time they met, in Week 17, the Lions won 41-10.
“They did it to us again a second time,” Montgomery said. “I’m like, all right, maybe they’re the real deal.
“Then I got over here and I’m like, yeah, it’s the real deal.”
The Bears were surprised in March when Montgomery turned down their offer of a contract extension for similar money from, of all teams, the Lions. Until last year, they’d finished last in the NFC North in each of Montgomery’s seasons.
To lose one of their best-known players outside of Halas Hall and one of their most respected inside of it to the Lions was a bad look for the Bears. It stung even more when, two months after he signed a three-year, $18 million deal, Montgomery said that the Bears’ losing “sucked the fun out of the game for me.”
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Montgomery averages 83.5 rushing yards per game, the most by any player who’s appeared in more than four games. He’s played in six games because of a ribs injury, but was strong in his return Sunday, totaling 116 yards on 12 carries. He’s the physical component of the Lions’ thunder-and-lightning timeshare; only four players have more runs of 20 yards or more than Jahmyr Gibbs, the running back the Lions drafted No. 12 overall in April.
“He’s aggressive, he’s relentless, he’s a punisher,” Bears safety Eddie Jackson said.
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There’s no denying the physicality Montgomery brought to the Bears in his four years with the team. Last year, it helped the offense figure out its identity.
“His play style, period, was contagious,” offensive coordinator Luke Getsy said Thursday.
Montgomery still talks to Getsy and his former teammates.
“They’re my guys, but they understand,” Montgomery said. “I understand, too, what it means — what’s getting ready to happen, too.”
Jackson said his understanding was that Montgomery “wanted to be here.” He doesn’t fault him from finding a place where he’s happy..
“He’s balling,” he said.” He’s getting that recognition he deserves.”
Receiver Darnell Mooney hasn’t talked to Montgomery this week — and won’t until after the game — but said he’s happy for him.
“Obviously, he’s seeing a little red this week, for sure, playing us,” he said.
Montgomery knows facing his former team for the first time will be special — but he’s trying to make sure it won’t be different. He said nerves won’t keep him up Saturday night. He’ll fall asleep the same way he always does — at 10:15 p.m., with a movie on the television.
“I’m just going to be me, man,” he said. “I’m not going to try to play out of the lines of myself. I’m going to be me. I think me being who I am is enough. I go out and play the way I play, play the way I know how.”
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Full article: https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023 ... ell-mooney
dplank wrote:I agree with Rich here
RichH55 wrote: Dplank is correct
