Game Balls and Horns Wk 10 vs CAR

[spudbear]

In what should have been a game the Bears ran away with based on the stats, Carolina stayed in there and it was close. I'm so tired of seeing the Flus soft zone. Bagent did enough for the W in spite of a shaky first quarter. Yeah he's not a strong downfield passer for now, and he'll probably have to work on it in practice as we should see Fields on the 19th.

GAME BALLS
- Foreman: another strong game has fans asking "Roschon who?" I'd still like to see RoJo get some more carries, but glad to see Foreman keep going north-south.
- Gordon: making big plays, almost had a sack or two and was effective in coverage.

HORNS
- Jenkins: I didn't need the announcers to tell me Tevin was not doing well. I wonder if he saw too many of his videos on youtube and thought he could just sail through. Hopefully he sees the videos from this game and makes the necessary corrections.
- Brisker: Allowed a few big passes and too many arm tackles.
- Stoopid Penalties: So frustrating to see some offensive drives stopped on bad penalties as well as the defense keeping the Carolina offense on the field. The one on Moore was ticky-tacky, and it was unfortunate he kept his hand/arm out to make it look like he was grabbing the defensive back. Then again, the roughing penalty where RoJo got hit on the head was a crucial call to keep the Bears offense on the field.

Bears get a mini-bye before an important two game division stretch starting with the Lions and then the VIkes. No, they're not a playoff team but we all want to see them progress and improve. We also want to see if Fields can be the future franchise QB.

[Noots]

Gotta give kudos to Santos. He nailed that FG after they moved him back after making the first, and was perfect 3/3 on the day.

[UOK]

Balls: the panthers, for being somehow worse

Horns: fate, for letting the bears roll this whole staff into next year due to dead “wins” like this

[dplank]

Game balls - Gordon, Sweat, Foreman - they stood out from the rest

Honorable mentions: Flus and the entire D played really good. Kmet had a few big plays. And Santos was money as usual.

Horns: None. Outside along a punt return fluke, we kicked their ass.

[thunderspirit]

Game balls to Kyler Gordon, who had himself a big day; to Montez Sweat for a good game as well; to Cairo Santos for bailing out his teammate's mistake; and to Darnell Money for a clutch grab on a hospital ball to salt the game away.

Horns to Cody Whitehair, who needed Santos to bail him out from a false start that took points off the board; to Trenton Gill for a pretty lousy performance; and to the Bears coaching staff for trying really hard to give this game away multiple times.

[artbest01]

Game balls:

Santos
Foreman
Gordon
Pickens
Dexter

Horns

Jenkins
Whitehair
Brisker

[Shadow]

Game Balls - Santos and Foremen.

Horns - Special Teams, Whitehair.

[wab]

Balls -
Gordon
Foreman
Sweat
Santos
Dexter
Sanborn

The defense as a whole played well. Sweat's impact is noticeable.

I thought Scott had a nice game even if it didn't show up on the stat sheet.

Pass protection was generally pretty good.

Horns -
Jenkins
Whitehair
Gill

Flus saying "we have some tricks up our sleeve" and then calling draws and screens that didn't work.

[Burl]

I didn't get to watch the game (not really sorry about that) but I notice that Sweat must've had a good game by all the Game Balls awarded here.
I looked up his stat line: no TFL, no sacks, zero tackles, ... what happened??

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

What a pathetic game;

Balls: Secondary, Sanborn, Wright, Sweat, Panthers

Horns: Our coaching staff Getsy specifically. Bagent, Whitehair, The TNF crew for having to bring Jason Kelce into the booth so they could talk about good football teams. Step up, be a man, and sit in the shit Al Michaels.

[dplank]

I didn't get to watch the game (not really sorry about that) but I notice that Sweat must've had a good game by all the Game Balls awarded here.
I looked up his stat line: no TFL, no sacks, zero tackles, ... what happened??

He was in the backfield almost every pass play. Disruptive as hell all night long.

[HurricaneBear]

The TNF crew for having to bring Jason Kelce into the booth so they could talk about good football teams. Step up, be a man, and sit in the shit Al Michaels.

This. I thought that was rather insulting to both teams fan bases that we had to sit and listen about the fucking Eagles during a Bears/Panthers game. I really don't care nor want to listen to Jason Kelce. They couldn't find an ex Bear with nothing to do to come in and talk? Major turnoff to football on prime for me

[Moriarty]

The TNF crew for having to bring Jason Kelce into the booth so they could talk about good football teams. Step up, be a man, and sit in the shit Al Michaels.

This. I thought that was rather insulting to both teams fan bases that we had to sit and listen about the fucking Eagles during a Bears/Panthers game. I really don't care nor want to listen to Jason Kelce. They couldn't find an ex Bear with nothing to do to come in and talk? Major turnoff to football on prime for me

Sure, but Bears fans mostly weren't going to tune out.

They were rightfully panicked about their national audience rightfully getting tired of watching two crappy teams play a crappy game.

[wab]

This. I thought that was rather insulting to both teams fan bases that we had to sit and listen about the fucking Eagles during a Bears/Panthers game. I really don't care nor want to listen to Jason Kelce. They couldn't find an ex Bear with nothing to do to come in and talk? Major turnoff to football on prime for me

Sure, but Bears fans mostly weren't going to tune out.

They were rightfully panicked about their national audience rightfully getting tired of watching two crappy teams play a crappy game.

Yeah, it definitely struck me as a panic move that they stuck with the Kelce segment so long. Usually the guest player or whoever comes in, gives some basic commentary about the game etc... but this was more "tell us about the tush push, what's it like to be an eagle, isn't Jalen Hurts great, what's your brother doing right now, 3rd and 7 on the Bears 45..."

It was weird.

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

The TNF crew for having to bring Jason Kelce into the booth so they could talk about good football teams. Step up, be a man, and sit in the shit Al Michaels.

This. I thought that was rather insulting to both teams fan bases that we had to sit and listen about the fucking Eagles during a Bears/Panthers game. I really don't care nor want to listen to Jason Kelce. They couldn't find an ex Bear with nothing to do to come in and talk? Major turnoff to football on prime for me

Jeff Bezos doesn't care about your feelings HB.

[G08]

I didn't get to watch the game (not really sorry about that) but I notice that Sweat must've had a good game by all the Game Balls awarded here.
I looked up his stat line: no TFL, no sacks, zero tackles, ... what happened??

8 pressures, helped free up other defensive linemen.

[Burl]

I didn't get to watch the game (not really sorry about that) but I notice that Sweat must've had a good game by all the Game Balls awarded here.
I looked up his stat line: no TFL, no sacks, zero tackles, ... what happened??

8 pressures, helped free up other defensive linemen.

I'll take it!

[LacertineForest]

The box score credited him with 3 QB hits, too.

[dave99]

I am giving myself a game ball for only wasting a small portion of my evening and most of that with the sound off.

[dplank]

I am giving myself a game ball for only wasting a small portion of my evening and most of that with the sound off.

To each his own...I thoroughly enjoyed the game last night. We only get 17 a year, and obviously precious few of those are wins so I'm gonna enjoy them.

[HisRoyalSweetness]

Surprisingly Trenton Gill averaged 46.7 yards a punt and landed 3 of 6 inside the 20. That was despite horribly shanking one of them. His one touchback wasn't a bad effort; it bounced a couple of yards into the end zone and then back again, he just slightly overcooked it. His net average sucked because of the TD return.

The problem is he's not only not pushed on in Year 2 but has regressed. His gross average isn't great and his net is the worst in the league, which suggests his hang time and/or directional kicking is lousy. At the very least he's going to have competition next offseason. It's a shame because he had an OK rookie year. Perhaps they should bring his predecessor back for the rest of the season? He's out-of-work after being cut by the Packers.

[HisRoyalSweetness]

DJ Moore deserves a game ball for this:

Bears WR DJ Moore on 2 pass-interference calls against him: ‘Maybe we need other refs’

Wide receiver DJ Moore had five catches for 58 yards to help the Bears topple his former team in a 16-13 win over the Panthers on Thursday. But he was annoyed by two offensive-pass-interference calls against him.

“They was getting on my nerves today,” Moore said of the officials. “They called me twice for it, then they had the nerve to talk to me afterward. Don’t talk to me afterward. Neither of them was pass interference. So that’s OK.”

Moore got flagged for pass interference with 9:25 left in the second quarter on a third-and-19 in which Bears quarterback Tyson Bagent hit running back Roschon Johnson for four yards. The Panthers declined that penalty.

He was penalized again with 1:34 left in the third quarter, and that was more costly. Bagent converted a third-and-nine with a 16-yard pass to Trent Taylor, but Moore drew a flag that negated the play. That dropped the Bears to third-and-19, and they eventually punted.

“They didn’t say nothing about the second one,” Moore said when asked if he got any explanations. “The first one, they said that I drove him downfield too far. I was like, ‘He initiated contact with me first,’ so I don’t know.

“Maybe we need other refs.”

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023 ... t-eberflus

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

DJ Moore deserves a game ball for this:

Bears WR DJ Moore on 2 pass-interference calls against him: ‘Maybe we need other refs’

Wide receiver DJ Moore had five catches for 58 yards to help the Bears topple his former team in a 16-13 win over the Panthers on Thursday. But he was annoyed by two offensive-pass-interference calls against him.

“They was getting on my nerves today,” Moore said of the officials. “They called me twice for it, then they had the nerve to talk to me afterward. Don’t talk to me afterward. Neither of them was pass interference. So that’s OK.”

Moore got flagged for pass interference with 9:25 left in the second quarter on a third-and-19 in which Bears quarterback Tyson Bagent hit running back Roschon Johnson for four yards. The Panthers declined that penalty.

He was penalized again with 1:34 left in the third quarter, and that was more costly. Bagent converted a third-and-nine with a 16-yard pass to Trent Taylor, but Moore drew a flag that negated the play. That dropped the Bears to third-and-19, and they eventually punted.

“They didn’t say nothing about the second one,” Moore said when asked if he got any explanations. “The first one, they said that I drove him downfield too far. I was like, ‘He initiated contact with me first,’ so I don’t know.

“Maybe we need other refs.”

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023 ... t-eberflus

"maybe we need other refs" from your lips to God's ear DJ.

[Arkansasbear]

DJ Moore deserves a game ball for this:

Bears WR DJ Moore on 2 pass-interference calls against him: ‘Maybe we need other refs’

Wide receiver DJ Moore had five catches for 58 yards to help the Bears topple his former team in a 16-13 win over the Panthers on Thursday. But he was annoyed by two offensive-pass-interference calls against him.

“They was getting on my nerves today,” Moore said of the officials. “They called me twice for it, then they had the nerve to talk to me afterward. Don’t talk to me afterward. Neither of them was pass interference. So that’s OK.”

Moore got flagged for pass interference with 9:25 left in the second quarter on a third-and-19 in which Bears quarterback Tyson Bagent hit running back Roschon Johnson for four yards. The Panthers declined that penalty.

He was penalized again with 1:34 left in the third quarter, and that was more costly. Bagent converted a third-and-nine with a 16-yard pass to Trent Taylor, but Moore drew a flag that negated the play. That dropped the Bears to third-and-19, and they eventually punted.

“They didn’t say nothing about the second one,” Moore said when asked if he got any explanations. “The first one, they said that I drove him downfield too far. I was like, ‘He initiated contact with me first,’ so I don’t know.

“Maybe we need other refs.”

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023 ... t-eberflus

I didn't see near enough on the second one to warrant a flag. It was a horrible call.

[HisRoyalSweetness]

The Bears plan to turn in film of those two offensive pass interference calls against Moore:

Eberflus: “With good right, I think that we’re gonna look at those and turn those in and we’ll see what they say. I certainly didn’t see anything there.”

[Middleguard]

Apparently, Edwards is leading the league in tackles and set a Bears' record for most tackles in 10 games. Is this a good thing, i.e. he's really balling out, or a bad thing, i.e. he's having to clean up after someone else failed? Somebody better at this needs to help me.

[Rusty Trombagent]

Apparently, Edwards is leading the league in tackles and set a Bears' record for most tackles in 10 games. Is this a good thing, i.e. he's really balling out, or a bad thing, i.e. he's having to clean up after someone else failed? Somebody better at this needs to help me.

He's getting a lot of love for this, but man i feel like he's a liability in pass coverage, and a healthy amount of those tackles are of dudes who caught the ball right in front of him.

There was a point late in the Panthers game where they were driving down the field, and everyone had that feeling in their gut like, here we go. They were completing everything underneath, death by a thousand cuts, and then in true "no one wants to win this game" fashion, Bryce threw it deep down the right sideline and fucked everything up.

Just look at the drive chart (panthers last drive of the night):
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/gametrack ... 9_CAR@CHI/

Edwards had 4 tackles on that last drive alone, they were completions of 9, 11, 5 and 13

[RichH55]

DJ Moore deserves a game ball for this:

Bears WR DJ Moore on 2 pass-interference calls against him: ‘Maybe we need other refs’

Wide receiver DJ Moore had five catches for 58 yards to help the Bears topple his former team in a 16-13 win over the Panthers on Thursday. But he was annoyed by two offensive-pass-interference calls against him.

“They was getting on my nerves today,” Moore said of the officials. “They called me twice for it, then they had the nerve to talk to me afterward. Don’t talk to me afterward. Neither of them was pass interference. So that’s OK.”

Moore got flagged for pass interference with 9:25 left in the second quarter on a third-and-19 in which Bears quarterback Tyson Bagent hit running back Roschon Johnson for four yards. The Panthers declined that penalty.

He was penalized again with 1:34 left in the third quarter, and that was more costly. Bagent converted a third-and-nine with a 16-yard pass to Trent Taylor, but Moore drew a flag that negated the play. That dropped the Bears to third-and-19, and they eventually punted.

“They didn’t say nothing about the second one,” Moore said when asked if he got any explanations. “The first one, they said that I drove him downfield too far. I was like, ‘He initiated contact with me first,’ so I don’t know.

“Maybe we need other refs.”

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023 ... t-eberflus

I thought the Pick Play was a good call

I also think they should call Pick Plays as Penalties way more often league wide too

[RichH55]

Apparently, Edwards is leading the league in tackles and set a Bears' record for most tackles in 10 games. Is this a good thing, i.e. he's really balling out, or a bad thing, i.e. he's having to clean up after someone else failed? Somebody better at this needs to help me.

I think it's been more just volume - nothing all that spectacular.

I think Sanborn has been a revelation - I think he's made some really drive saving tackles

[HisRoyalSweetness]

I thought the Pick Play was a good call

I also think they should call Pick Plays as Penalties way more often league wide too

You need to watch the JT O'Sullivan's QB School breakdown in the Tyson Bagent thread then. He points out that Taylor is running a return route, i.e. faking to go outside and then turning back towards the middle, and the DB believing it was an out route took himself out of the play.

In other words, there was no reason for Moore to be running a pick; it wasn't part of the play design. Taylor had his man beat. The DB's back was to the play, he was facing the sideline and moving in that direction while Taylor cut back inside. There was no reason whatsoever for Moore to want to impede him in any way. It was just an accidental collision as they clipped heels when they crossed by each other.