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1 Thing for Fields

Hitting the timing routes
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31%
Minimizing turnovers/sacks
7
24%
Getting Moore the ball to double digit receptions
0
No votes
Opening up the passing game with deep balls to Mooney and Scott
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No votes
Accuracy/consistency on the short throws
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10%
At or better 65% completion, 225 yds passing, 60 yds rushing
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21%
Smart scrambling and a few long runs to open up passing lanes
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No votes
Long sustained drives converting third downs with passes
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3%
Throw a hard pass to the Bears sidelines that accidentally hits Getsy upside the head and puts him on the inactive list
3
10%
 
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It almost feels like the start of the season: OL starting line together, RB corps all healthy, defensive starters are ready and show promise. And Fields is back.
What is the one thing you would most like to see, besides a W with decent stats, from Justin Fields this Sunday?

I chose the short passes, as this was something he has struggled with. It seemed like Fields would missthrow, throw it late or not even see an outlet and either take off or get sacked. If and when he can get the deeper passes going then the short passes will add to the Bears offensive arsenal.
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I voted for 65, 225 and 60.

The other metrics would be nice but they aren’t indicative of him being a QB I want to retain. The one I voted for gives me an idea that we have a QB. However I will say that I’m want the passing number closer to 300. I don’t want him running that much. I welcome his dual threat potential but the idea here is to pass the ball.
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I voted hitting the timing routes, which means anticipation and getting the ball out quickly, which would open a whole world of offensive options.
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How about all of the above?
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The Marshall Plan wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 8:37 am I voted for 65, 225 and 60.

The other metrics would be nice but they aren’t indicative of him being a QB I want to retain. The one I voted for gives me an idea that we have a QB. However I will say that I’m want the passing number closer to 300. I don’t want him running that much. I welcome his dual threat potential but the idea here is to pass the ball.
I agree with you on these metrics being the most important - with one exception. I'd like to see the 65% completion rate and 250 yards passing, but also 27 points on the board. None of it really matters if it doesn't turn into points.
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27 PPG would rank 6th in the league, ahead of the 7-2 Lions.

There wasn’t an option for this in the poll, but if I could wish for 1 thing for Fields I think it might be for fans to have reasonable expectations given where we are as a team right now. I keep getting a vibe that if Fields isn’t top 5, right now, then folks want to throw him away.
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Z Bear wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:09 am How about all of the above?
I kinda think the 65% completion yadda yadda yadda is that. So I went with it.

As TMP points out it's more of a whole picture of what you want your QB to be.

As a side note, I think that will be a bit short of what he's going to do to the Kittens. 75% completion, 325 yards passing with 2 TDs and another 60 yards with his legs and a TD.

(note: this may be completely different from what I wrote in the prediction thread, all my predictions are completely stream of consciousness and I've slept since the prior post. In reality whichever one is more outlandish is my true prediction)
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dplank wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:29 am 27 PPG would rank 6th in the league, ahead of the 7-2 Lions.

There wasn’t an option for this in the poll, but if I could wish for 1 thing for Fields I think it might be for fans to have reasonable expectations given where we are as a team right now. I keep getting a vibe that if Fields isn’t top 5, right now, then folks want to throw him away.
Reasonable expectations!?!?!?!?!?

Have you not met me before!?!?!?

27 points is low!!!!!!!!!!!! Gimme 35+
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Z Bear wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:09 am How about all of the above?
That’s my expectation
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For some, all of the above won’t be enough
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dplank wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:29 am 27 PPG would rank 6th in the league, ahead of the 7-2 Lions.

There wasn’t an option for this in the poll, but if I could wish for 1 thing for Fields I think it might be for fans to have reasonable expectations given where we are as a team right now. I keep getting a vibe that if Fields isn’t top 5, right now, then folks want to throw him away.
I understand where 27 pts would put us - and I also understand that if Fields is "the guy" then that goal is perfectly reasonable. Oline is good other than at center. WR's are good, TE is good, RB's are good. None are great, but all are just waiting to be elevated by the play of the QB. I see no reason why if we have "the guy" at QB then we shouldn't also have a top 10 offense.

Fields has had 30 games to become "the guy." It's time to show that he is.
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Mr.Irrelevant wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:31 am
dplank wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:29 am 27 PPG would rank 6th in the league, ahead of the 7-2 Lions.

There wasn’t an option for this in the poll, but if I could wish for 1 thing for Fields I think it might be for fans to have reasonable expectations given where we are as a team right now. I keep getting a vibe that if Fields isn’t top 5, right now, then folks want to throw him away.
I understand where 27 pts would put us - and I also understand that if Fields is "the guy" then that goal is perfectly reasonable. Oline is good other than at center. WR's are good, TE is good, RB's are good. None are great, but all are just waiting to be elevated by the play of the QB. I see no reason why if we have "the guy" at QB then we shouldn't also have a top 10 offense.

Fields has had 30 games to become "the guy." It's time to show that he is.
OK, so just to be clear here. Are you saying that if Fields doesn't deliver a top 6 offense, right now, that you want him gone?

Demanding your QB be Top 6, when this offense hasn't sniffed that, is not at all reasonable IMO.
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Ditka’s dictaphone wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:53 am For some, all of the above won’t be enough
I’m a bit irked that I couldn’t vote for:

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So yes I did vote for the stat option but my real choice is the above.
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The 1 thing I want for Fields is for him to come out and be able to play Justin Fields ball. I don't want him becoming some pocket passer, I want Getsy running an offense like Lamar or Vick or Cam or Kapernick. If he passes the eye test thats all I care about.
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I went with "minimizing turnovers/sacks" but was so, so tempted to go with a fastball to Getsy's cranium :lol:
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HurricaneBear wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:52 am The 1 thing I want for Fields is for him to come out and be able to play Justin Fields ball. I don't want him becoming some pocket passer, I want Getsy running an offense like Lamar or Vick or Cam or Kapernick. If he passes the eye test thats all I care about.
I like this; just go out and play your fucking game to the best of your ability.
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G08 wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:55 am I went with "minimizing turnovers/sacks" but was so, so tempted to go with a fastball to Getsy's cranium :lol:
It was hard to pass on a KO of Getsy.
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G08 wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:55 am I went with "minimizing turnovers/sacks" but was so, so tempted to go with a fastball to Getsy's cranium :lol:
Well I yielded to the temptation - of course I want Fields to target Getsy during warmups when he's not looking - sure, put a good knot on his bean so they check for concussion. Then - when Fields gets benched for doing it over - I want Bags to hit him again when he's warming up - just one short range bullet to the groin.

Can't you just visualize that cheesy f**cker rolling around moaning on the sidelines while the game goes on? Crawling into the tent - then carted away with bags of ice on his gourd and groin?
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So far it has been one vote for upside Getsy's head.

As a fan I have expectations for how a QB should play, and also parts that concern me after watching a QB play for several games/seasons. While we all want to see Fields do well overall and play Justin-ball to rack up the stats, there is a particular "area" that you'll pay attention to during the game to see if he has improved. That's why the poll is "1 Thing".

Irregardless, I'd like to see the Bears be competitive and not keep shooting themselves in the foot. Improvements for Fields' play will go a ways toward that. Maybe the stupid penalties (Bears lead the league?) will go down as Fields play improves.
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dplank wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:45 am
Mr.Irrelevant wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:31 am

I understand where 27 pts would put us - and I also understand that if Fields is "the guy" then that goal is perfectly reasonable. Oline is good other than at center. WR's are good, TE is good, RB's are good. None are great, but all are just waiting to be elevated by the play of the QB. I see no reason why if we have "the guy" at QB then we shouldn't also have a top 10 offense.

Fields has had 30 games to become "the guy." It's time to show that he is.
OK, so just to be clear here. Are you saying that if Fields doesn't deliver a top 6 offense, right now, that you want him gone?

Demanding your QB be Top 6, when this offense hasn't sniffed that, is not at all reasonable IMO.
Nope - this thread is "1 thing for Fields". I interpret that to mean what I want to see from him, not what it will take to keep him around. I do believe the goals I have for him are reasonable, but that doesn't mean something less than those things mean we move on. Which option did you choose? If he doesn't achieve that would you want him gone?
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Sorry, but this should be the least important one: At or better 65% completion, 225 yds passing, 60 yds rushing

Who cares if he hits that but has 2 picks and 2 fumbles. Madden stats shouldn't mean much to judge a QB. What if the Bears are running the shit out of the ball and are up 28-0 with Fields only going 10-20 for 90 yards and no TDs, 5 of those are throwaways when he got rushed or no one was open. Don't pay attention to stats, pay attention to how he is operating as a QB.
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Mr.Irrelevant wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:54 pm
dplank wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:45 am

OK, so just to be clear here. Are you saying that if Fields doesn't deliver a top 6 offense, right now, that you want him gone?

Demanding your QB be Top 6, when this offense hasn't sniffed that, is not at all reasonable IMO.
Nope - this thread is "1 thing for Fields". I interpret that to mean what I want to see from him, not what it will take to keep him around. I do believe the goals I have for him are reasonable, but that doesn't mean something less than those things mean we move on. Which option did you choose? If he doesn't achieve that would you want him gone?
Kind of what ZBear just said. I want to see him operate the offense efficiently, be in control and minimize the bad plays that have held him back this far. If he does that, I want to keep him. I don’t have a stat that will define what that means.
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I mean if he could fit in a laser throw to Getsy’s ear hole I wouldn’t be against it.
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dplank wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:29 am 27 PPG would rank 6th in the league, ahead of the 7-2 Lions.

There wasn’t an option for this in the poll, but if I could wish for 1 thing for Fields I think it might be for fans to have reasonable expectations given where we are as a team right now. I keep getting a vibe that if Fields isn’t top 5, right now, then folks want to throw him away.
He's closer to 25 than 5. Sadly
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I chose minimizing turnovers/sacks (i.e., bad plays).

But the real answer is putting Getsy out of commission.
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dplank wrote:I agree with Rich here
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I went with the %-yards passing-yards eushing but they're based on getting the ball out faster, and taking less sacks. I sin't think anyone's expecting top 5 or 6 from Fields. I'd like a guy who plays consistently, minimizes turnovers, and can lift the team at the end of games.
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NFL games are often close, so assuming at least one of the remaining 7 games falls into that category then I would like to see Fields lead the team to a win in the closing minutes of the 4th quarter. Perhaps someone can remind me, as he ever actually managed that for the Bears?

It's a really key part of winning in the NFL. The Bears are 1 - 3 in one score games this season alone, with last week's win over the Panthers accounting for the only win. Flip that record round and the Bears would be right in the playoff hunt at 5 - 6 and if one of the wins had been against the Vikings, the game Fields wasn't able to finish, then they'd actually be in a wild card spot.
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Would love to see him throw the ball before the receiver makes his break. That’s what I really like about Bagent.
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HisRoyalSweetness wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:14 pm NFL games are often close, so assuming at least one of the remaining 7 games falls into that category then I would like to see Fields lead the team to a win in the closing minutes of the 4th quarter. Perhaps someone can remind me, as he ever actually managed that for the Bears?

It's a really key part of winning in the NFL. The Bears are 1 - 3 in one score games this season alone, with last week's win over the Panthers accounting for the only win. Flip that record round and the Bears would be right in the playoff hunt at 5 - 6 and if one of the wins had been against the Vikings, the game Fields wasn't able to finish, then they'd actually be in a wild card spot.
I don’t think he has, I’m not sure Mitch did it either.

Of course it’s more difficult if your receiver drops the ball in the end zone or another receiver on the sideline allows a defender to strip the ball from your hands.
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Ditka’s dictaphone wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:21 am
HisRoyalSweetness wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:14 pm NFL games are often close, so assuming at least one of the remaining 7 games falls into that category then I would like to see Fields lead the team to a win in the closing minutes of the 4th quarter. Perhaps someone can remind me, as he ever actually managed that for the Bears?

It's a really key part of winning in the NFL. The Bears are 1 - 3 in one score games this season alone, with last week's win over the Panthers accounting for the only win. Flip that record round and the Bears would be right in the playoff hunt at 5 - 6 and if one of the wins had been against the Vikings, the game Fields wasn't able to finish, then they'd actually be in a wild card spot.
I don’t think he has, I’m not sure Mitch did it either.

Of course it’s more difficult if your receiver drops the ball in the end zone or another receiver on the sideline allows a defender to strip the ball from your hands.
…or your defense is dead last in the NFL like last year.

Kinda hard to win games like that.

That said, Fields did flat out look bad in those situations last year. That’s also true. Just to be fair.
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