UPDATE: Bears officially Hire OC Shane Waldron

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Don't know much about him..if he was with Seahawks for awhile..might fit JF1 as well as it did Wilson.
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docc wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 10:41 pm Don't know much about him..if he was with Seahawks for awhile..might fit JF1 as well as it did Wilson.
He did quite well with Russell Wilson and Geno Smith, would be a good get IMO.
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docc wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 10:41 pm Don't know much about him..if he was with Seahawks for awhile..might fit JF1 as well as it did Wilson.
In Waldron's first year as the Seahawks he had Russell Wilson, who is often cited as an analogue for Fields as a dual-threat QB, and the next season Geno Smith made the Pro Bowl and won the Comeback Player of the Year award.

Before joining the Seahawks as their OC he spent 4 seasons with the Rams:

2017: TE coach
2018: Passing game coordinator
2019: Passing game coordinator & QB coach
2020: Passing game coordinator

It's not clear why he lost the designation of "QB coach" a year after being given it.

The Seahawks offense under him:
2021: 20th in yards, 16th in points
2022: 12th in yards, 9th in points
2023: 21st in yards, 17th in points

The Seahawks passing offense under him:
2021: 23rd in yards (3432), 10th in TDs (30), 4th in QB passer rating (103.1)
2022: 11th in yards (3934), tied 6th in TDs (30), 4th in QB passer rating (100.0)
2023: 14th in yards (3910), 20th in TDs (23), 15th in QB passer rating (90.7)
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The dude surely resurrected G. Smith’s career. Kinds of QBs that Smith and Wilson are in terms of out of the pocket threats, makes it seem logical. Definitely worth an interview.
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Didn't see Carroll getting the axe, so I didn't even consider Waldron. From what I've seen (and I see Lumen Field every day when I walk the dog), he's a very

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friendly OC for a defensive-minded head coach. There's that. He's gotten the most out of a pretty dismal offensive line and nondescript RB and TE corps. His WRs get a lot of exercise on the barrage of long routes he calls, and get to rest on the many screen plays he calls. His QBs haven't been great, but he's gotten steady production out of them.

I suspect that much of what we saw in Seattle was a matter of Waldron trying to fit some of his offense into the box defined by his HC.

Considering how easily Eberflus could pass for Pete Carroll's recently divorced son, I can see the interest in Waldron. But I also see a pattern, nd not a terrific one.
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This would be a good get.
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Familiarity with Sean McVay's offense. Coached Russell Wilson one year. Worked under Belichick. Has some decent chops.
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Biggest downside is that if he's good he's getting tagged for a HC gig. But that's a problem for later.
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wab wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:44 am Biggest downside is that if he's good he's getting tagged for a HC gig. But that's a problem for later.
One "problem" the Bears have never had, their OC doing so well that he's tagged for a HC job.
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Grizzled wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:49 am
wab wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:44 am Biggest downside is that if he's good he's getting tagged for a HC gig. But that's a problem for later.
One "problem" the Bears have never had, their OC doing so well that he's tagged for a HC job.
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wab wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:44 am Biggest downside is that if he's good he's getting tagged for a HC gig. But that's a problem for later.
If he's good it means the Bears QB situation is looking fantastic, so if he leaves, whatever, we'll have a fantastic-looking quarterback. Maybe.
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What sort of freedom will the new OC have under Eberflus?
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The Marshall Plan wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:08 am What sort of freedom will the new OC have under Eberflus?
I'd imagine the main caveat would be that they keep the OL and TE coaches, otherwise, be a good man of faith who drinks tea with Virginia on Sundays after church
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HisRoyalSweetness wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:35 pm
docc wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2024 10:41 pm Don't know much about him..if he was with Seahawks for awhile..might fit JF1 as well as it did Wilson.
In Waldron's first year as the Seahawks he had Russell Wilson, who is often cited as an analogue for Fields as a dual-threat QB, and the next season Geno Smith made the Pro Bowl and won the Comeback Player of the Year award.

Before joining the Seahawks as their OC he spent 4 seasons with the Rams:

2017: TE coach
2018: Passing game coordinator
2019: Passing game coordinator & QB coach
2020: Passing game coordinator

It's not clear why he lost the designation of "QB coach" a year after being given it.

The Seahawks offense under him:
2021: 20th in yards, 16th in points
2022: 12th in yards, 9th in points
2023: 21st in yards, 17th in points

The Seahawks passing offense under him:
2021: 23rd in yards (3432), 10th in TDs (30), 4th in QB passer rating (103.1)
2022: 11th in yards (3934), tied 6th in TDs (30), 4th in QB passer rating (100.0)
2023: 14th in yards (3910), 20th in TDs (23), 15th in QB passer rating (90.7)
Their offensive DVOA ranked 7th, 13th, and 12th, respectively.
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UOK wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:25 am
The Marshall Plan wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:08 am What sort of freedom will the new OC have under Eberflus?
I'd imagine the main caveat would be that they keep the OL and TE coaches, otherwise, be a good man of faith who drinks tea with Virginia on Sundays after church
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wab wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:44 am Biggest downside is that if he's good he's getting tagged for a HC gig. But that's a problem for later.
Possible upside: that HC gig could be ours.
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UOK wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:55 am
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One "problem" the Bears have never had, their OC doing so well that he's tagged for a HC job.
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wab wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:44 am Biggest downside is that if he's good he's getting tagged for a HC gig. But that's a problem for later.
‘Member when people were saying that about Getsy. Some to the point of fire Flus and make Getsy HC.
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Arkansasbear wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 2:46 pm
wab wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:44 am Biggest downside is that if he's good he's getting tagged for a HC gig. But that's a problem for later.
‘Member when people were saying that about Getsy. Some to the point of fire Flus and make Getsy HC.
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UOK wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:25 am
The Marshall Plan wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:08 am What sort of freedom will the new OC have under Eberflus?
I'd imagine the main caveat would be that they keep the OL and TE coaches, otherwise, be a good man of faith who drinks tea with Virginia on Sundays after church
Lol

Even with the TE and OL coach, I'd assume there is some flexibility in the exact role and also if it really wasn't a good fit, the Bears would let those guys go pursue another opportunity and it'd be water under the bridge. Saying those guys will be back isn't a blood pact.
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A lot of Seahwaks fans seem very eager to be rid of him. I asked one I know who I don't think is an idiot and he didn't necessarily glow about him but felt Bears could easily do worse.
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The Cooler King wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 3:49 pm A lot of Seahwaks fans seem very eager to be rid of him. I asked one I know who I don't think is an idiot and he didn't necessarily glow about him but felt Bears could easily do worse.
Could do worse isn’t my criteria. I don’t want him now that I’ve taken a closer look. Much better options IMO.
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The Marshall Plan wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:08 am What sort of freedom will the new OC have under Eberflus?
As long as he doesn’t pull something like our last DC or RB coach, probably enough freedom to hang himself anyway.
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The Cooler King wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 3:49 pm A lot of Seahwaks fans seem very eager to be rid of him. I asked one I know who I don't think is an idiot and he didn't necessarily glow about him but felt Bears could easily do worse.
Guys trying to make chicken salad out of the husk of geno smith, and has done it pretty well.
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dplank wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 6:46 pm
The Cooler King wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 3:49 pm A lot of Seahwaks fans seem very eager to be rid of him. I asked one I know who I don't think is an idiot and he didn't necessarily glow about him but felt Bears could easily do worse.
Could do worse isn’t my criteria. I don’t want him now that I’ve taken a closer look. Much better options IMO.
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southdakbearfan wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 7:00 pm
The Marshall Plan wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:08 am What sort of freedom will the new OC have under Eberflus?
As long as he doesn’t pull something like our last DC or RB coach, probably enough freedom to hang himself anyway.
And that's really all the freedom he needs.

The freedom to call enough screens on 3rd and 20 to get fired.

Because that's how all these coaches will end up anyway. Fired.
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