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6'4 298lb former fifth-round draft pick out of Maryland, has one career sack, and is now on his 6th team. Had one not-terrible year for the Pats as a DE.
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Poles has a 90 man roster to fill. He's gonna sign some guys to minimum deals in order to do that because he lacks later round picks. The guy has some previous starting experience but it's tough to see him as any more than a guy competing for roster spot. I expect Poles to pick up a few more players who are cut after the draft or post June 1st. It's just about depth and competition.
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Yeah.Bearfacts wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:23 am Poles has a 90 man roster to fill. He's gonna sign some guys to minimum deals in order to do that because he lacks later round picks. The guy has some previous starting experience but it's tough to see him as any more than a guy competing for roster spot. I expect Poles to pick up a few more players who are cut after the draft or post June 1st. It's just about depth and competition.
He does need a "this is a guy who we could keep on the roster, if we don't draft one" level DL guy, though, and I don't think this qualifies.
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There are some players ranked in round three that have shown some NFL type talent but will end up up more as role players somewhat like the kid they just signed Jake Martin and another we have on the PS. One guy I like who doesn't at all fit Flus typical type of DE is Mo Kamara (6'1"/250lbs). He played here in Ft Collins at CSU and the kid is like a Tasmanian Devil. He reminds me of a guy Denver had in the past, Elvis Dumervil. Dumervil was even shorter but the guy played for 11 seasons and had 105 career sacks and 190 QB hits.Moriarty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:31 pmYeah.Bearfacts wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:23 am Poles has a 90 man roster to fill. He's gonna sign some guys to minimum deals in order to do that because he lacks later round picks. The guy has some previous starting experience but it's tough to see him as any more than a guy competing for roster spot. I expect Poles to pick up a few more players who are cut after the draft or post June 1st. It's just about depth and competition.
He does need a "this is a guy who we could keep on the roster, if we don't draft one" level DL guy, though, and I don't think this qualifies.
There's another kid at Oregon whose a little bit bigger who might also fit a role like Walker has filled moving from DE to DT. As long as we have Walker I'd like to see them find a smaller, quicker, younger much cheaper version of Nagakoue. IMHO we don't need another guy the size of Sweat to play RDE. We've done OK with 250lb guy there and so have other teams. If another team trades up for a QB in the top 5 and MHJr slides down a bit there's a good chance one of the top 3 WR will still be on the board at #9. I'm not sure there's DE in this draft worth a top 10 pick.
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Mostly I don't want to invest in DL until we know what we already have in Dexter & Pickens. And we have so few picks, anyway.Bearfacts wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:23 pmThere are some players ranked in round three that have shown some NFL type talent but will end up up more as role players somewhat like the kid they just signed Jake Martin and another we have on the PS. One guy I like who doesn't at all fit Flus typical type of DE is Mo Kamara (6'1"/250lbs). He played here in Ft Collins at CSU and the kid is like a Tasmanian Devil. He reminds me of a guy Denver had in the past, Elvis Dumervil. Dumervil was even shorter but the guy played for 11 seasons and had 105 career sacks and 190 QB hits.
There's another kid at Oregon whose a little bit bigger who might also fit a role like Walker has filled moving from DE to DT. As long as we have Walker I'd like to see them find a smaller, quicker, younger much cheaper version of Nagakoue. IMHO we don't need another guy the size of Sweat to play RDE. We've done OK with 250lb guy there and so have other teams. If another team trades up for a QB in the top 5 and MHJr slides down a bit there's a good chance one of the top 3 WR will still be on the board at #9. I'm not sure there's DE in this draft worth a top 10 pick.
I'm good with a cheap vet or a late round body as the 4th guy for a year.
The only exceptions are I sim draft McKinnley or Sweat sometimes when I trade for extra picks.
(And I think they are targeting DE in R1, as I do, so that gets you better on the line, even if it isn't inside.)
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Pick good football playersMoriarty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 5:09 pmMostly I don't want to invest in DL until we know what we already have in Dexter & Pickens. And we have so few picks, anyway.Bearfacts wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:23 pm
There are some players ranked in round three that have shown some NFL type talent but will end up up more as role players somewhat like the kid they just signed Jake Martin and another we have on the PS. One guy I like who doesn't at all fit Flus typical type of DE is Mo Kamara (6'1"/250lbs). He played here in Ft Collins at CSU and the kid is like a Tasmanian Devil. He reminds me of a guy Denver had in the past, Elvis Dumervil. Dumervil was even shorter but the guy played for 11 seasons and had 105 career sacks and 190 QB hits.
There's another kid at Oregon whose a little bit bigger who might also fit a role like Walker has filled moving from DE to DT. As long as we have Walker I'd like to see them find a smaller, quicker, younger much cheaper version of Nagakoue. IMHO we don't need another guy the size of Sweat to play RDE. We've done OK with 250lb guy there and so have other teams. If another team trades up for a QB in the top 5 and MHJr slides down a bit there's a good chance one of the top 3 WR will still be on the board at #9. I'm not sure there's DE in this draft worth a top 10 pick.
I'm good with a cheap vet or a late round body as the 4th guy for a year.
The only exceptions are I sim draft McKinnley or Sweat sometimes when I trade for extra picks.
(And I think they are targeting DE in R1, as I do, so that gets you better on the line, even if it isn't inside.)
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Turner is definitely a top 10 pick. From a talent standpoint, Latu absolutely is. Just depends on how teams feel about his health.
The problem is that there are 4 QBs likely to go in the top 10, along with 3 WRs and 3 OTs. That's your top 10.
The problem is that there are 4 QBs likely to go in the top 10, along with 3 WRs and 3 OTs. That's your top 10.
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We were playing top 5 defense with Ngakoue, Walker, Greene across from Sweat. I’d bring Greene back and call it a day, we don’t need all pros at every position.
My mind is really shifting to offense now that CW is going to be our guy. Load up around him.
My mind is really shifting to offense now that CW is going to be our guy. Load up around him.
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Turner is absolutely a top 10 pick, for a 3-4 team. Maybe the Bears think he can play DE, I dunno. I have doubts about it, but I've been wrong before.
I'd bet he's Atlanta's top preference at #8.
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This would surprise me -thunderspirit wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:12 amTurner is absolutely a top 10 pick, for a 3-4 team. Maybe the Bears think he can play DE, I dunno. I have doubts about it, but I've been wrong before.
I'd bet he's Atlanta's top preference at #8.
Though it could be shades of Drake London value (not position) where Atlanta takes a guy Top 10 that you'd be happy with after a trade down and like pick 16, but in the Top Ten without trade down feels like bad value
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I think Turner is the top defensive player and worth a top 10 pick. If I had big board, I think he would be 8th (CW, Maye, Daniels, MHJ, Nabers, Odunza and Alt would be ahead of him - not necessarily in that order).RichH55 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:36 amThis would surprise me -thunderspirit wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:12 am
Turner is absolutely a top 10 pick, for a 3-4 team. Maybe the Bears think he can play DE, I dunno. I have doubts about it, but I've been wrong before.
I'd bet he's Atlanta's top preference at #8.
Though it could be shades of Drake London value (not position) where Atlanta takes a guy Top 10 that you'd be happy with after a trade down and like pick 16, but in the Top Ten without trade down feels like bad value
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Turner and Verse seem closest to what Flus looks for as far as physical traits. Teams are always looking for edge players so Turner may go top ten. I don't believe Verse will. This draft seems to lack a sure fire top five or top ten pass rusher. One kid I really like who might still be on the board in the 3rd round is Mo Kamara. He doesn't meet the size of the typical Flus type guy but the kid is a flat out baller with a non-stop motor who plays "nasty".
I believe Poles will look to draft a 3 down DE before the 3rd round but if he fails to get a guy he likes Kamara is a kid who could platoon with Walker at RDE. He reminds me of Elvis Dumervil a guy the Broncos drafted who most though was too small to play DE in the NFL but he led the NFL in sacks in 2009 playing DE at 5'11"/250lbs. He ended up playing OLB both in Denver and Baltimore but his first three or four years he played as a DE.