IOL thoughts

[RichH55]

Guards still grow on trees - Alot of our problems over the years was the lack of Tackle play - Even Chris Williams had a half way decent run at Guard.

And are new injuries better? Like that all of his body can be an issue? I'm not sold there.

There is Guards next year on FA too - pretty much every year - for a reason

If Chris Williams is a yardstick for a "decent" OG then we really do have low standards.

Just because there are OGs available in FA doesn't mean they're any good and those that are come with big price tags. Nate Davis was considered one of the best on the market last year and everyone's been unhappy with the standard of his play so far. Anyone who thinks Jenkins would be easy to replace, especially at a low cost, hasn't watched his tape.

As for injuries, the nature of those injuries are a factor. Jenkins somehow managed to strain both calves shortly before the regular season started. It wasn't something that happened in a game. It accounted for 4 of the 5 games he missed. Is that injury likely to recur? I would think the odds on that are very low.

Any extension would have to factor in injury risk, but the advantage of extending him a year early is that it should reduce the cost of the deal. If structured well the team will have an out in a couple of years if things don't turn out well.

It's not as if other top, highly paid guards have never missed games. It's a tough physical sport and there's contact every play for O-linemen. Brandon Scherff had a run of 5 seasons where he played 14, 8, 11, 13 and 11 games yet made the Pro Bowl in all but one of those years and was a first team All Pro one year too.

He's been hurt every year. So are injuries likely to occur? Ummmm......Yes.

I kind of agree that its good its not the same injury - especially the Back.

But its also not good that seemingly every part of him gets hurt and has led to missed games - but he is at least getting to the point where injuries to New parts of his body - are gonna be harder and harder to come by.

Scherff 14 is out of 16 that year. - and he played how many Full Seasons? Right now- Tevin has ZERO full seasons.

Could he just be snake bit? Yes.

The All Pro thing means more than Pro Bowl. Pro Bowls tended to be Reputation based- especially on OL - Scherff was a Top 5 pick whose first 3 years were really good. But again - I take your point

I'd say 4 out of 5 is a bit of a stretch too - Especially since he missed more time than that in Training Camp (It does help to have the guys together for the OL)- and that the Neck injury happened on what - First Drive of the Eagles game?

So it still shows as both Game Started and Game Played - but not even a full possession. I think Tevin missed games /big chunks of games with 3 different injuries this last season (4 if you want to be a jerk and count each lower leg injury individually).



Question: Why is it an argument FOR Jenkins that the injured Calves (plural) didn't happen in a game? Like you said - its a physical game - so maybe its not good that he can be hurt can kind of hanging out? He wasn't even fully healthy in his College Career either

For the 11 Games Started you get out of Jenkins in a good year (11 is not even his average BTW)- Are you likely to find a better player at a very low cost? Or even as good?

No. Agreed.

Is Guard maybe the easiest position to replace ? Well, yes. (I am not counting specialists)

Injury History: His Neck, His Back.....
(Also both calves (bettors choice on which one), Hip, Concussion (Two concussions in College too BTW),

I hear his Islets of Langerhans remain pristine though

[RichH55]

But the bigger question is can TJ be extended? My belief is Poles has handled the extension of two of his best homegrown players so far so I have no reason to believe he can't get a deal done with Jenkins that suits both parties. But until it's done all we know is he's in the final year of his current deal and Poles is sure to be asked about him sooner than later.

At his presser today Poles was asked about extending Keenan Allen and he said this:

"I try to be intentional in the order we do extensions, so we'll review that and kinda see what our order looks like."

I thought that was interesting.

With Johnson signed, Fields traded and Mooney leaving for the Falcons the only drafted players left who are eligible for an extension this year are Jenkins, Borom and Herbert and of those 3 Jenkins is far and away the best.

Aside from Allen are there any other players not on their rookie deals who Poles might consider for an extension? I can't think of any off the top of my head.

I'm hoping that means Poles is prioritising new deals for young homegrown talent rather than risking upsetting them by rewarding new signings first, even if they are highly accomplished veterans.

Didn't he extend Sweat - pretty much right off the bat while waiting on JJ?

[HisRoyalSweetness]

He did but of course the situation was different. It was midseason and Sweat would have hit free agency at the end of the year. He'd also been working on an extension for Johnson for some time at that point and even thought he was closing in on a deal but it didn't materialise. He knew he wanted to keep Johnson and would therefore likely need to franchise tag him so he didn't have the option to use the tag on Sweat. A new deal was imperative.

Right now he doesn't need to rush through any extensions. He has plenty of time to work on them. It's therefore interesting that he implied Allen was not at the head of the queue.

[RichH55]

He did but of course the situation was different. It was midseason and Sweat would have hit free agency at the end of the year. He'd also been working on an extension for Johnson for some time at that point and even thought he was closing in on a deal but it didn't materialise. He knew he wanted to keep Johnson and would therefore likely need to franchise tag him so he didn't have the option to use the tag on Sweat. A new deal was imperative.

Right now he doesn't need to rush through any extensions. He has plenty of time to work on them. It's therefore interesting that he implied Allen was not at the head of the queue.

I think you might be reading too much into that (Or you read it right) - but just thinking its a bit ...over analyzed?

Keenan did have some leverage there at the trade time - so I am assuming there might have been talks in that regard (could be wrong)

Gentlemans bet on who gets extended first between Allen and Jenkins?

[HisRoyalSweetness]

Poles also said he'd love to have Allen long-term. That statement coupled with giving up a 4th round pick makes it highly likely he will look to extend him. He didn't need to add that caveat about having an order for extensions. Of course it could just be a negotiating tactic to encourage Allen and his agent to be reasonable with their demands and get a deal done more quickly or risk seeing money go another player. On the other hand it could be a signal to those who've been with the team a while that they are valued and he wants to reward them when they've performed well as he did last year with Kmet.