cblaz11 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:00 am
RichH55 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 6:54 pm
Most of my draft ideas have been (as of late) trading down from #9 to get Latu - So fully on board there. (Ill ignore the Fields stuff)
Definitely conservative on the trade down value
Hate the Rice pick - I think his game is extremely limited - My best comp for him was ESB - I think if his last name is Jones (in a normal year - this year is weak on overall depth) he'd be going later than the 3rd
Like the LSU pick (Though if Sweat can somehow make it that far???)
and the Oklahoma Center is a good consolation prize at Center (I still want the West Virginia kid)
It’s always a great day when I get to read the Picnic Basket…rumor is Mel Kiper waits to release his final mock until he gets his on the famous CBFans Picnic Basket.
I like the picks, don’t love them.
I like Latu but I have concerns with his core strength, gym commitment, and ability to get off the blocks. That said, if he has the love for the game, the possibilities are endless with him.
I can understand concerns about his injury and his ability to set an edge against dominant run blocking OTs like Fuaga, but I don't think you need to worry about his love for the game. He came back from a devastating neck injury, risked paralysis, and shopped for a team who would medically clear him. Plus with his repertoire of moves, he's clearly studied and practiced his position in depth. I don't think his love of the game can be questioned.
His ability to get off blocks is amazing with the wide selection of moves at his disposal. In fact, it's why I want him. Core strength is something that's hard to judge. He does need to anchor better in the run game. But his gym commitment shouldn't be a concern when you look at his Combine testing. It wasn't like Verse, but it was still pretty effing good.
I agree with Rich on the WR and OC…I really don’t like the USC WR that early in a very deep class and would prefer the WV Center.
My favorite center is JPJ. By far. But he's supposed to go in the first. We're not taking him. Fraizer is supposed to go in the second. After the two moves Poles made, I don't think he's going to take a center there. My intention with Limmer was to take a center in the fourth in order to develop him. I did intentionally over drafted both Rice and Smith, so I guess you could take Fraizer with our second pick and drop each of those down a slot, but I don't see Poles doing something like that.
Comparing Limmer and Fraizer side by side, I think Fraizer has a higher floor, but Limmer has a much higher ceiling. Fraizer's somebody who can come in and start immediately. His wrestling background makes him real effective in the box, but he doesn't have near the athleticism of Limmer to pull or get to the second level. When Fraizer gets to a linebacker, it's a guy in the box too--a short burst to get to him. He's not going much further than that. Limmer, however, has to learn how to handle counters. His initial functional strength is amazing. Hell, he had the most Reps (39) at the Combine, couple that with a 700 lb. Squat.
I ovrdrafted Rice because of his familiarity with Caleb, but Rice is an enigma to me. He was supposed to kill at the Combine (ran 23 MPH on the GPS), but he bombed instead. How do you lose 4 reps on the bench and an inch and a half on your vertical? But whatever the case, he seems to be like his father and be a much different player on the field. How does a guy with 4.5 speed collect so many deep balls? A CB will running with him step for step, and all of a sudden Rice gets a step or two on him. He appears as the bail out guy in many of Caleb's "hero" plays. But like I said, I overdrafted him to make Caleb more comfortable. This might well be a place where you could trade down and still get him. I took him where I did, because the Bears grabbing Rice just makes too much sense.