Tua Tua’d himself again.

[alexwilkins]

Last NFL snap? Maybe? Hopefully?

[Otis Day]

Not sure why he didn't dive to the left or right of the Bill defender. As soon as he went head on I knew he was done. His head is a noodle. Time for him to walk away.

[malk]

Last NFL snap? Maybe? Hopefully?

Poor guy. Definitely needs to hang his boots up.

Never heard it called the fencing pose, I've done that before but didn't know it was a concussion thing (took three weeks off after that, amateur play is definitely not worth the risk lol).

[UOK]

Yeah, fencing response is reaction to brain trauma. It's happened to Tua before.

I imagine he'll retire at the end of the season, but will try to play again this year. I'm glad he's gotten the bag and can retire, hopefully to enjoy his wealth and ideally not suffer many long-term consequences.

[dplank]

Dude just isn't built for the NFL and didn't adjust his play style to accommodate for his lack of size. My fantasy teams are in shambles right now.

[LacertineForest]

This kind of stuff will absolutely be used to show young NFL QBs why they need to learn to slide. I can't think, for the life of me, how Tua, knowing his history with head injuries, decided he needed to go head-first on that play.

[malk]

Yeah, fencing response is reaction to brain trauma. It's happened to Tua before.

I imagine he'll retire at the end of the season, but will try to play again this year. I'm glad he's gotten the bag and can retire, hopefully to enjoy his wealth and ideally not suffer many long-term consequences.

Apparently I passed the concussion protocol when it happened to me but I've no recollection of being asked the questions. Very odd, and scary, things concussions...

You've got to wonder if the league will step in with come kind of cap relief for the Dolphins here, unless there's an existing rule I'm forgetting? His contact will have $122,646,000 of dead money if they move on at the end of this season, that's an insane barrier to overcome. They'd have to find $50m of cap savings and I'm not sure they'll be able to. Doesn't strike me as particularly fair...

[Ditka’s dictaphone]

Dude just isn't built for the NFL and didn't adjust his play style to accommodate for his lack of size. My fantasy teams are in shambles right now.

just found it funny that you mention your fantasy teams

Give it up Tua, live your life in health

[LacertineForest]

You've got to wonder if the league will step in with come kind of cap relief for the Dolphins here, unless there's an existing rule I'm forgetting? His contact will have $122,646,000 of dead money if they move on at the end of this season, that's an insane barrier to overcome. They'd have to find $50m of cap savings and I'm not sure they'll be able to. Doesn't strike me as particularly fair...

Why should they? They gave him the contract knowing fully well he was one concussion away from this.

[LacertineForest]

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I mean, obviously, I hope that Tua is healthy and able to live a normal life outside of football. Worst-case scenario, he made $40+ million this year, which ought to set him up pretty well. I wonder who makes the determination as to whether he's medically able to play - NFL/team doctors? Or independent doctors?

[HurricaneBear]

Yeah, fencing response is reaction to brain trauma. It's happened to Tua before.

I imagine he'll retire at the end of the season, but will try to play again this year. I'm glad he's gotten the bag and can retire, hopefully to enjoy his wealth and ideally not suffer many long-term consequences.

Apparently I passed the concussion protocol when it happened to me but I've no recollection of being asked the questions. Very odd, and scary, things concussions...

You've got to wonder if the league will step in with come kind of cap relief for the Dolphins here, unless there's an existing rule I'm forgetting? His contact will have $122,646,000 of dead money if they move on at the end of this season, that's an insane barrier to overcome. They'd have to find $50m of cap savings and I'm not sure they'll be able to. Doesn't strike me as particularly fair...

Why would the league ever do that? The Dolphins gambled and lost. It happens. That would be terrible for the league to step in

[dplank]

No way the league can step in...what if Sweat tears an ACL, or anything else? can't make exceptions or they run out of control...

[Otis Day]

This isn't the NHL where they have the Long Term Injured Reserve bullsh!t. As HB stated, they took a gamble and could lose. Feel sorry for Tua, but not the phins.

[dplank]

This isn't the NHL where they have the Long Term Injured Reserve bullsh!t. As HB stated, they took a gamble and could lose. Feel sorry for Tua, but not the phins.

But do you feel sorry for my fantasy teams?

[malk]

You've got to wonder if the league will step in with come kind of cap relief for the Dolphins here, unless there's an existing rule I'm forgetting? His contact will have $122,646,000 of dead money if they move on at the end of this season, that's an insane barrier to overcome. They'd have to find $50m of cap savings and I'm not sure they'll be able to. Doesn't strike me as particularly fair...

Why should they? They gave him the contract knowing fully well he was one concussion away from this.

I don't think retirements and permanent injuries should carry ongoing cap penalties. It creates perverse incentives and also benefits the owners more than the teams.

[malk]

No way the league can step in...what if Sweat tears an ACL, or anything else? can't make exceptions or they run out of control...

Retirements and permanent injuries. Off the top of my head the latter would be the duration of the original contract or the signing team takes on that proportion of the cap hit (unless I'm missing something obvious).

[Otis Day]

This isn't the NHL where they have the Long Term Injured Reserve bullsh!t. As HB stated, they took a gamble and could lose. Feel sorry for Tua, but not the phins.

But do you feel sorry for my fantasy teams?

I can do that.

Son of a bitch!! I hope your team can overcome this tragedy. Your #2 QB is going to be your savior.

First year not doing FF. I had been doing around 30 yrs. Just lost the passion and it just wasn't fun anymore. Everybody quit talking shit. It just became setting a lineup and waiting for results. Not sure what happened to the shit talking but it ended.

[LacertineForest]

Why should they? They gave him the contract knowing fully well he was one concussion away from this.

I don't think retirements and permanent injuries should carry ongoing cap penalties. It creates perverse incentives and also benefits the owners more than the teams.

I would be okay if they did something in the CBA, but it would have to apply to all teams. Honestly, I'd love to see all contracts fully guaranteed, but the NFL/ownership will fight that tooth and nail and I think it's highly unlikely we'll ever see it in the NFL. If there was at least some kind of standard injury protection which would allow teams some cap relief for long-term/permanent injuries, that would benefit both players and teams.

[Rusty Trombagent]

[Grizzled]

I don't know why he didn't slide. He needs to hang it up, he's had too many severe concussions. I'm sure he and team can reach an equitable injury settlement.

[HisRoyalSweetness]

I don't know why he didn't slide.

Yeah, it was a really odd not to mention dangerous decision. He had the first down and there was no way he was going to make it into the end zone. Just be smart and slide down.

[Moriarty]

Ethics aside, that's probably the right call

[Shadow]

I don't know why he didn't slide.

Yeah, it was a really odd not to mention dangerous decision. He had the first down and there was no way he was going to make it into the end zone. Just be smart and slide down.

On top of the fact the Phins were in a no win situation, makes it even worse. Down 21 that far into the game was just crazy the he even tried to go head first.

[Rusty Trombagent]

Ethics aside, that's probably the right call

First it was "would you kill a fan to win 10 superbowls," then it quickly became "would you kill 5 players to trigger a redraft?"

Only a matter of time til

[Moriarty]

Ah, Blood Bowl.

You can play free online here.
https://fumbbl.com/

I loved and hated it. Developed rage issues and had to quit.

[HisRoyalSweetness]

Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa has no plans to retire after suffering latest concussion

Miami Dolphins quarterback Tua Tagovailoa has no plans to retire after suffering his latest concussion, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Sunday on NFL GameDay Morning, per sources informed of the situation.

While there is no current timeline for a return, Tagovailoa has already begun the process of seeing concussion specialists and will continue do so until he and his doctors deem him ready and healthy, Rapoport reported.
...

In the wake of Tagovailoa's latest concussion, Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel said he has "zero idea" what any timeline might be and doesn't want to put that sort of pressure on the 26 year old.

"First and foremost, I'm not assessing the injury through the lens of, 'Alright, so what does this mean for him playing?' " McDaniel said Friday. "Really, for me, I know the facts are that it's important that he gets healthy day by day, and in that, the best thing I can do is not try to assess what this even means from a football standpoint."
...

Full article: https://www.nfl.com/news/dolphins-qb-tu ... concussion

[HisRoyalSweetness]

Dolphins placing QB Tua Tagovailoa (concussion) on injured reserve

Tua Tagovailoa's latest concussion will sideline him until at least Week 8.

The Miami Dolphins are placing Tagovailoa on injured reserve, NFL Network Insiders Ian Rapoport and Mike Garafolo reported on Tuesday.

The Dolphins later officially announced the move.

Tagovailoa will miss at least the next four games before he's eligible to return, per NFL rules. Miami has its bye in Week 6, so the earliest Tagovailoa could return is the Dolphins Week 8 game against the Arizona Cardinals on Oct. 27.

Rapoport and Garafolo added that the decision was made to give Tagovailoa ample time to progress through the stages of league's concussion protocol and meet with outside neurologists.
...

Full article: https://www.nfl.com/news/dolphins-placi ... ed-reserve

[Moriarty]

That's a step in the right direction.

They ought to leave him there all season - to protect him from himself and to send a message about his NFL future - and tank the rest of the season as best they can.

[dplank]

It's his life and decision to make. But he really needs to be careful that he doesn't end up like Floyd Wetherton.

[HisRoyalSweetness]

Tua Tagovailoa (concussion) to practice Wednesday; Dolphins hopeful QB plays vs. Cardinals on Sunday

Miami Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel told reporters on Monday that Tua Tagovailoa will practice on Wednesday for the first time since he suffered a concussion on Sept. 12 and the team is hopeful he will be able to play in their Week 8 game against the Cardinals.

Tagovailoa will need to clear the league's concussion protocol in order to play on Sunday.

"Our plan is to start him practicing on Wednesday," McDaniel said. "The clearing (of the league's concussion protocol) doesn't come until after some of the activity, but we're doing so in the hope of everything going well so that he can play Sunday. But that is to be determined."

McDaniel added: "The reason he's coming back now is because the medical experts have deemed it safe for him to return. So I don't mess with timelines or try to overcook or forecast. You lean on experts on matters of the career, and that's what we're doing here."

Tagovailoa told reporters later on Monday that he was "very excited" to return to action and said that it has been "frustrating" to watch from the sidelines for the past month.
...

McDaniel was asked on Monday if Tagovailoa will wear a Guardian Cap when he returns to action. The NFL has permitted players to wear Guardian Caps during regular-season games for the first time this year in an effort to increase player health and safety and prevent head injuries.

"You know, that's a great question for Tua," McDaniel said. "I think contrary to popular belief, as it's collectively bargained, we aren't allowed to mandate things that aren't mandated in terms of their attire. I think in terms of his career we just have a high priority to pass forth information and knowledge so that decisions can be made with the full breadth of information.

"I think that I preach that it is the individual player's determination if they want to do so. So what you don't do is skirt the information-gathering process. You make sure they're well informed and they have access to all the available options, which is supremely important to me. Then, players, when they're making choices that relate to their play and their careers as it's negotiated in the collective bargaining agreement, I appreciate the individual determination for how they play."
...

Full article: https://www.nfl.com/news/dolphins-qb-tu ... -cardinals