Daniel Jones - What the Everloving

[Moriarty]

Fuck?

https://www.si.com/nfl/giants-ripped-by ... s-benching

Giants Ripped by NFL Fans for Playing Daniel Jones as Scout Safety After Benching

[thunderspirit]

Wow, that feels like Brian Daboll trying to get fired.

[Ditka’s dictaphone]

They’re clearly tanking, but I don’t know what that means for Daboll

[alexwilkins]

What an absolute disaster. Let Saquon walk to a division rival, OOOOOOOOOVERPAY Daniel Jones, and release him less than two years later. Damn.

[LacertineForest]

Hard to believe they outright released him - that's almost $70MM in dead cap between this year and next (although most of that is this year, and he played through the first 10 games of the season, so it's not hamstringing them so much for the future aside from the $22MM they owe him next year).

[HisRoyalSweetness]

Jones statement after getting benched, which proved to effectively be his farewell speech:

[HisRoyalSweetness]

An article about him being released:

Giants releasing QB Daniel Jones after six seasons

After six years with the Giants, one day of practice spent as the scout-team safety and one heartfelt farewell statement, Daniel Jones is leaving New York.

The Giants are granting Jones' request to be released Friday, the team announced.

"Daniel came to see me this morning and asked if we would release him," owner John Mara said in a statement. "We mutually agreed that would be best for him and for the team. Daniel has been a great representative of our organization, first class in every way. His handling of this situation yesterday exemplifies just that. We are all disappointed in how things have worked out. We hold Daniel in high regard and have a great appreciation for him. We wish him nothing but the best in the future."
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Logically, Jones was demoted because of his performance...

The financial element also played a significant factor. While Jones' salary and bonuses were fully guaranteed in 2023 and 2024, $23 million of his salary was guaranteed only for injury in 2025. If the Giants were going to move on from Jones at the end of this season, they had to eliminate the risk of injury, leading to his fall from the top to the bottom of the depth chart.
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"We had a really good talk, Daniel and I," Daboll said Friday. "Got a lot of respect for him. Again, not the way we wanted it to turn out by any stretch, but he's been nothing but a pro since I've been here with him. He's a great young man."

Daboll added that he announced Jones' release to the team ahead of Friday's walkthrough for New York's Week 12 game against Tampa Bay.

"I let them know," the Giants coach. "I wanted them to hear it."

The sixth-year QB will be subject to waivers. Any team claiming him would be responsible for the remaining $11,833,333 he's guaranteed in 2024, making a claim highly unlikely, NFL Network Insider Tom Pelissero reported.
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Full article: https://www.nfl.com/news/giants-release ... nt-request

The Giants were obviously going to move on from him and they weren't going to play him again this year to ensure they weren't on the hook for $23m if he got injured. Jones wanted out now and they were happy to let him go. He can take a break and focus on preparing for next season where I'm sure a team will give him an opportunity to earn a vet minimum backup role. Other QBs have got a second shot so you never know, but that's likely all he has left for a playing career.

[Grizzled]

The poster child case for what every team wants to avoid both from a monetary situation and from wasting years with the wrong guy.

[Arkansasbear]

Hard to believe they outright released him - that's almost $70MM in dead cap between this year and next (although most of that is this year, and he played through the first 10 games of the season, so it's not hamstringing them so much for the future aside from the $22MM they owe him next year).

So it looks like his signing bonus and first 2 years of base salary were guaranteed. Most of '25 was guaranteed only due to injury (which I think played a huge part in him getting benched).

His signing bonus was $36 million or $8M/season. So I think the only hit they take that hasn't been accounted for yet is $18M plus part of his '25 salary. Looks like they take a dead cap hit of $22.5 next year, but will still save $19M in cap space.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id ... niel-jones

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/new ... dd8ea37ad1

[Rakshir]

Once he clears waivers, he could sign at vet minimum with any team this year correct? Any playoff team need a cheap vet backup QB? Maybe Minnesota or the Lions?

[Heinz D.]

Once he clears waivers, he could sign at vet minimum with any team this year correct? Any playoff team need a cheap vet backup QB? Maybe Minnesota or the Lions?

[HisRoyalSweetness]

Once he clears waivers, he could sign at vet minimum with any team this year correct? Any playoff team need a cheap vet backup QB? Maybe Minnesota or the Lions?

From Ian Rapoport:

Daniel Jones expected to quickly sign with new team after clearing waivers next week
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Jones, who requested and received his release from the Giants on Friday, is expected to clear waivers on Monday at 4 p.m. ET. At that point, when he's a free agent and allowed to talk to other teams, Jones should sign relatively quickly.
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Jones will be able to sign with a team immediately once he becomes a free agent. Perhaps he will do what so many veterans have done and sign with a practice squad -- meaning his new team would not have to cut a player on the 53-man roster to sign him.
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Among Jones' possible options:

• The San Francisco 49ers are dealing with a shoulder injury to starter Brock Purdy, who will miss Sunday's game against the Packers. Head coach Kyle Shanahan left open the possibility that Purdy could miss more than Sunday, with Purdy to be re-evaluated on Monday. If Purdy is deemed in danger of missing more time, San Francisco would make a lot of sense and could be very real.

• A team like the Baltimore Ravens could also make sense, with Jones' athleticism and speed fitting what Baltimore does on offense. Journeyman Josh Johnson currently is Lamar Jackson's backup. Jones could sign with the Ravens' practice squad and work his way up, and general manager Eric DeCosta is always looking to improve the roster.

• The Raiders are said to like Jones as an organization, and if he's a free agent, they could emerge as an option. Why? Because Las Vegas expects to be a team in the market for a bridge starter in the 2025 offseason, while simultaneously also looking for its QB of the future. Jones could audition for his future role and maybe earn an even bigger one, while the Raiders get a look at a free agent-to-be. Las Vegas likely won't make the playoffs, but that might be Jones' best choice for his future.

There will be others, especially if a significant QB injury happens on Sunday or Monday.

[Rakshir]

I was just thinking the 49rs would be a good fit before I saw your reply. They were saying on the pregame show that 10 teams have reached out to him. I'd bet he'd want to rejoin a playoff team and see how the other half lives. But I guess we'll see.

If not the Bears, I'm all for the Lions winning the Super Bowl. Anybody but the Chiefs is my second choice.

[Ditka’s dictaphone]

I hope he goes to a team with more losses than us and helps them get a few wins.
The tank is on

[HisRoyalSweetness]

I hope he goes to a team with more losses than us and helps them get a few wins.
The tank is on

Um, you do remember this is Daniel Jones we're talking about right?

[Rusty Trombagent]

Daniel Jones to the Raiders this year would make a ton of sense. Audition for the job next year basically in a year where the incoming QB class looks not super inspiring.

[dplank]

Teams are gonna stop with these huge QB contracts for non-elite players. Tua, Lawrence, and Jones have really highlighted the problem with this approach.

[wab]

Teams are gonna stop with these huge QB contracts for non-elite players. Tua, Lawrence, and Jones have really highlighted the problem with this approach.

Agreed.

[Moriarty]

Teams are gonna stop with these huge QB contracts for non-elite players. Tua, Lawrence, and Jones have really highlighted the problem with this approach.

I agree completely with the second part, but I don't know about the first.


When the demand exceeds the supply on something perceived as crucial...

[Rusty Trombagent]

Yeah, fans have been saying stuff like that for years. Until magically a bunch of competent QB's appear out of the ether, teams will still hand out monster contracts to QB's who are completely average.

Brandon Allen just made Brock Purdy a shit ton of money yesterday.

[RichH55]

Yeah, fans have been saying stuff like that for years. Until magically a bunch of competent QB's appear out of the ether, teams will still hand out monster contracts to QB's who are completely average.

Brandon Allen just made Brock Purdy a shit ton of money yesterday.

That was my thought too.........The fact that they SHOULD doesn't mean they WILL

[Shadow]

When being competent at your job nets you $50 million per year.
There was a time when Running backs got paid stupid sums too.
How many Watson, Rodgers, Tua, Jones contracts are needed before owners wise up?
McCaskey will show the League how it is done when they low ball Caleb after his fifth season and they go the Cousins route and just Tag him for two more years.

[HurricaneBear]

When being competent at your job nets you $50 million per year.
There was a time when Running backs got paid stupid sums too.
How many Watson, Rodgers, Tua, Jones contracts are needed before owners wise up?
McCaskey will show the League how it is done when they low ball Caleb after his fifth season and they go the Cousins route and just Tag him for two more years.

It's either that or Caleb's getting 100 million a year with his next deal

[Shadow]

When being competent at your job nets you $50 million per year.
There was a time when Running backs got paid stupid sums too.
How many Watson, Rodgers, Tua, Jones contracts are needed before owners wise up?
McCaskey will show the League how it is done when they low ball Caleb after his fifth season and they go the Cousins route and just Tag him for two more years.

It's either that or Caleb's getting 100 million a year with his next deal

If Caleb gets $100 million per year, it will definitely not be with the Bears.