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My pick is Jentry. W/ the hiring of Bieniemy as RB Coach ,a great hire , and the way Coach loves a RB who can catch and run (Though tackles) it's a real no brainer for a guy who is rated the top RB in the draft. He reminds me of Payton. He busts tackles and has top end speed. One thing I really love about him is he NEVER gives up. AND please , don't say he didn't play against any one. Ask Oregon. Who's your 1st. RD. pick?
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Eriebear wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:38 pm Alston Jeffery.
Eriebear wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 7:02 pm My pick is Jentry.
Dont ever change, brother.
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There’s a whole other thread in a whole other forum about this.
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Two things need to happen for Jeanty to go to us at 10:

1. We must have signed at least two high end OL FAs already (low contract guys don’t count).

2. Jeanty must have elite measurable. I don’t often worry about measurables, but given where he played and how high a pick this is, he needs to have special physical traits for this to make sense to me
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I was stupid in love with Bijan Robinson in the 2023 draft -- if he was in this class I wouldn't take him at 10 (pains me to say lol).

We need to take our top-rated OL at #10 or, ideally, trade down and pick up an additional second or third if possible (trading down to 17 or 18 would net us a 2025 second // trading down to 14 would net us a 2025 third and 2025 sixth).

Example for me, including FA:

LT: Winner of Braxton Jones/Kiran Amegadjie
LG: <Insert Rookie Here>
OC: Drew Dalman - 5 yr/$80M
RG: Trey Smith - 5 yr/$110M
RT: Darnell Wright

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10 - Tyler Booker (OG, Alabama): I don't love the idea of drafting an OG in the top 10, but the NFL is changing and you can see it reflected in the contracts FA guards are receiving these days. Per Daniel Jeremiah: "Sources at Alabama compare his leadership qualities to those of former Tide star Will Anderson Jr. Booker should be an immediate starter with Pro Bowl potential." If this means he will be the leader of the OL in a year or two, sign me up.

39 - Quinshon Judkins (RB, Ohio State): NFL comp is Joe Mixon, kid runs with power and speed which is something our RB room is sorely lacking. I thought about going DE here but liked the way the board was shaking out.

41 - Princely Umanmielen (EDGE, Ole Miss): Requisite height/weight/length that Dennis Allen likes in his defenders. Has a little bit of Danielle Hunter in his game if you squint hard enough.
LG - Trey Smith: 5 yr/$110M || OC - Drew Dalman: 5 yr/$80M
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I don't think there is a chance in hell Umanmielen lasts until 41.
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wab wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 9:58 am I don't think there is a chance in hell Umanmielen lasts until 41.
Agreed, he’d have to blow his knee out the week before the draft or something
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wab wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 9:58 am I don't think there is a chance in hell Umanmielen lasts until 41.
Can sub for Landon Jackson in that instance.
LG - Trey Smith: 5 yr/$110M || OC - Drew Dalman: 5 yr/$80M
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If the Bears do sign Dalman/Smith in free agency, I take Umanmielen at 10 and a guard/RB in R2.

We also need to address DT at some point too. There are some that will be in FA or R2/3.
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wab wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 9:58 am I don't think there is a chance in hell Umanmielen lasts until 41.
Thank God we have pick 39😜
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Jack Sawyer, Princely Umanmielen, J.T. Tuimoloau, Landon Jackson are all rated pretty similarly in the second round. Odds are one of them will be available at 41. Keep in mind these are the guys rated in the bottom of the top 10, it's such an insanely rich edge class that odds are someone will fall.
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I'm still in for Mason Graham at 10 if he's there. Broken record alert: this is why it's super important that Poles sign TWO QUALITY STARTERS on the OL in FA. Not one, not low budget guys, but two obvious starters (doesn't have to be Trey Smith, but has to be "Zeitler level guys" at least). By doing this, we free up our options in the draft and don't pigeon hole ourselves like we've done in the past. If we don't, then we basically are forced to draft OL even if Graham falls to 10.
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I prefer a trade down, if possible. We need upgrades at a lot of positions and this is a deep class for OL, DL and RB. I stay at 10 only if Graham or Carter somehow fell.

If the Bears are lucky enough to snag Smith and Dalman, I’d be over the moon.
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dplank wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 10:33 am I'm still in for Mason Graham at 10 if he's there. Broken record alert: this is why it's super important that Poles sign TWO QUALITY STARTERS on the OL in FA. Not one, not low budget guys, but two obvious starters (doesn't have to be Trey Smith, but has to be "Zeitler level guys" at least). By doing this, we free up our options in the draft and don't pigeon hole ourselves like we've done in the past. If we don't, then we basically are forced to draft OL even if Graham falls to 10.
Like DE I just listed above....there are a ton of OL guys with second rounds grades that you could plug in a LG. Aireontae Ersery, Donavan Jackson, Jonah Savaiinaea, Cameron Williams, Marcus Mbow, Grey Zabel, and Wyatt Milum all have second rounds grades and should be plug and play. The draft board lines up perfectly for the Bears' needs in the second round.
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wab wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 10:25 am If the Bears do sign Dalman/Smith in free agency, I take Umanmielen at 10 and a guard/RB in R2.

We also need to address DT at some point too. There are some that will be in FA or R2/3.
You think he goes top 10!?
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Z Bear wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 10:32 am Jack Sawyer, Princely Umanmielen, J.T. Tuimoloau, Landon Jackson are all rated pretty similarly in the second round. Odds are one of them will be available at 41. Keep in mind these are the guys rated in the bottom of the top 10, it's such an insanely rich edge class that odds are someone will fall.
Exactly -- it's a rich class.
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To preface this, I like Planks idea of signing two quality FA OL. That takes the pressure off in the draft and let's you go with a BPA at a position of need.

Ashton Jeanty would be my first pick at 10. Let's see how it works to get the best RB for a change.
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G08 wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 10:53 am
wab wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 10:25 am If the Bears do sign Dalman/Smith in free agency, I take Umanmielen at 10 and a guard/RB in R2.

We also need to address DT at some point too. There are some that will be in FA or R2/3.
You think he goes top 10!?
I think he is the 2nd or 3rd edge rusher off the board.

Abdul Carter, Umanmielen, Mykel Williams, Jalon Walker, and James Pearce are top 20 picks. After Carter, the order they go really depends on what a team is looking for.

You might even throw Mike Green in there too.

Landon Jackson, Shemar Stewart, Kyle Kennard J.T. Tuimoloau, Donovan Ezeiruaku, Jack Sawyer, Jared Ivey and Oluwafemi Oladejo are those tier two guys IMO.

I think a metric shit ton of OL and EDGE players go in R1 this year.
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All depends on what they do in FA. Gun to my head give me the biggest, baddest ass offensive or defensive lineman. I would prefer offensive lineman. Look what the road graders in Philly made swift look like vs what he looks like now.
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wab wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 11:02 am
G08 wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 10:53 am

You think he goes top 10!?
I think he is the 2nd or 3rd edge rusher off the board.

Abdul Carter, Umanmielen, Mykel Williams, Jalon Walker, and James Pearce are top 20 picks. After Carter, the order they go really depends on what a team is looking for.

You might even throw Mike Green in there too.

Landon Jackson, Shemar Stewart, Kyle Kennard J.T. Tuimoloau, Donovan Ezeiruaku, Jack Sawyer, Jared Ivey and Oluwafemi Oladejo are those tier two guys IMO.

I think a metric shit ton of OL and EDGE players go in R1 this year.
I don't think Umanmielen goes higher than Stewart or Scourton myself.

But I'm also not especially high on Mykel Williams or Jalon Walker, so him being ED4 or ED5 would not surprise me at all.
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o-pus #40 in B major wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 11:00 am To preface this, I like Planks idea of signing two quality FA OL. That takes the pressure off in the draft and let's you go with a BPA at a position of need.

Ashton Jeanty would be my first pick at 10. Let's see how it works to get the best RB for a change.
Jeanty is interesting but isn’t this supposed to be a RB rich draft? I understand that the kid out of Carolina - Omarion Hampton - is supposed to be special, yes?

I know this is a cliche but I’m not sure drafting a running back at 10 is the best value. I won’t go as far as to say they’re “a dime a dozen” but I think we don’t have to go that high to get a quality back.

Plus, isn’t Jeanty a little short guy?

EDIT: He is LISTED at 5’9”. That’s probably generous.
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Jeanty is short but not little. He's 5'9, 215. He runs with power and is hard to tackle. I had the same though but changed my mind after I watched some film.

215 is the average weight of an NFL running back. Height is not an advantage for a running back.
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IotaNet wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 11:57 pm
o-pus #40 in B major wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 11:00 am To preface this, I like Planks idea of signing two quality FA OL. That takes the pressure off in the draft and let's you go with a BPA at a position of need.

Ashton Jeanty would be my first pick at 10. Let's see how it works to get the best RB for a change.
Jeanty is interesting but isn’t this supposed to be a RB rich draft? I understand that the kid out of Carolina - Omarion Hampton - is supposed to be special, yes?

I know this is a cliche but I’m not sure drafting a running back at 10 is the best value. I won’t go as far as to say they’re “a dime a dozen” but I think we don’t have to go that high to get a quality back.

Plus, isn’t Jeanty a little short guy?

EDIT: He is LISTED at 5’9”. That’s probably generous.
Okay, I can understand taking the best blue chip OL at 10. But let's not wait until round 4, pick 115, to get a RB - it didn't pan out that well with Roschon.

Omarion Hampton, you bet.
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I’m not that high on Jeanty.

Yes he can explode through tackles in college but at his size, that’s not going to happen in the NFL these days
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DE is the value pick if the Bears fill holes in the OL in FA. Carter, maybe one other may be taken but this is a deep field through the first 2 rounds. Might be able to trade down a few spots, get another 2nd or 3rd, still get your guy. Good DT value in the 2nd as well as OG.
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Oline. Lots of running backs look good behind good Olines. Hardly any running backs look good behind bad Olines. Jeanty would need to be a top 5 player his entire career to justify the pick and the odds on that are slim
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Ditka’s dictaphone wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:14 am I’m not that high on Jeanty.

Yes he can explode through tackles in college but at his size, that’s not going to happen in the NFL these days
Yeah just like the even smaller Jahmyr Gibbs can't break tackles at 5'9, 200. Oh wait.

We need to see what the Bears do in FA. If they deal with both OL and DL that way, a premier RB could be a good choice.
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IotaNet wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 11:57 pm
o-pus #40 in B major wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 11:00 am To preface this, I like Planks idea of signing two quality FA OL. That takes the pressure off in the draft and let's you go with a BPA at a position of need.

Ashton Jeanty would be my first pick at 10. Let's see how it works to get the best RB for a change.
Jeanty is interesting but isn’t this supposed to be a RB rich draft? I understand that the kid out of Carolina - Omarion Hampton - is supposed to be special, yes?

I know this is a cliche but I’m not sure drafting a running back at 10 is the best value. I won’t go as far as to say they’re “a dime a dozen” but I think we don’t have to go that high to get a quality back.

Plus, isn’t Jeanty a little short guy?

EDIT: He is LISTED at 5’9”. That’s probably generous.
Jeanty is the same exact size as Swift.
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Being 5'9 can be a detriment in pass protection, and if we see him as an every down back then that's an element that we have to keep in mind. Just a quick check and 6'0 seems to be a pretty ideal height for RB's, so I would put the height thing down as a negative here. And he doesn't need ANY negatives if we'd consider burning a top 10 pick on a RB.
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Gimme all the Muscle Hamsters and tiny Darren Sproles you got. I'm still sore that we ended Garrett Wolfe's career before it started.
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