Bears Sign TE Durham Smythe to 1Y Deal

[G08]

[RichH55]

Doesn't Count against Compensatory Formula

[Bearfacts]

Is he really a TE or a Member of British Parliament House of Lords?

[Moriarty]

OVERALL

Smythe is an exceptional blocker. His technique, strength and agility all look great. The knock on him is his lack of production and film in the passing game. A run-heavy, two-tight-end-set team will love to find Smythe still on the board on Day 3. He will fill a role and provide depth at tight end while becoming one of the best in-line blockers in the NFL.

Replacement for Marcades

[Grizzled]

And another article said the Bears might look at trading for Vegas' Michael Mayer, another ND TE who's become a bit superfluous with them drafting Brock Bowers last year.

[wab]

And another article said the Bears might look at trading for Vegas' Michael Mayer, another ND TE who's become a bit superfluous with them drafting Brock Bowers last year.

Depends on the pick, but with this being such a sub-par draft, I could maybe see them trading their third for him.

[RichH55]

And another article said the Bears might look at trading for Vegas' Michael Mayer, another ND TE who's become a bit superfluous with them drafting Brock Bowers last year.

Depends on the pick, but with this being such a sub-par draft, I could maybe see them trading their third for him.

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[Arkansasbear]

And another article said the Bears might look at trading for Vegas' Michael Mayer, another ND TE who's become a bit superfluous with them drafting Brock Bowers last year.

Depends on the pick, but with this being such a sub-par draft, I could maybe see them trading their third for him.

That seems way to rich for me.

[o-pus #40 in B major]

Depends on the pick, but with this being such a sub-par draft, I could maybe see them trading their third for him.

That seems way to rich for me.

Me too.

[wab]

Depends on the pick, but with this being such a sub-par draft, I could maybe see them trading their third for him.

That seems way to rich for me.

You are probably right. For some reason I thought he'd been way more productive than he has.

[cblaz11]

Looks like we signed him…

Dudes a good blocker, nasty.

Capable receiver that knows our offense. Good move

[wab]

[G08]

Interesting! Mostly a blocking TE, curious if he takes that role in two TE sets and Cole gets out into passing routes more often.

[Arkansasbear]

That seems way to rich for me.

You are probably right. For some reason I thought he'd been way more productive than he has.

Well I'd say any trade is pretty much off the table now.

[HurricaneBear]

Doesn't Count against Compensatory Formula

What do we need to happen for us to get a comp pick for Keenan Allen?

[Magilla_Gorilla]

Doesn't Count against Compensatory Formula

What do we need to happen for us to get a comp pick for Keenan Allen?

We need him to sign a nice big fat contract with another team and then have a tremendous year - also we then need Chicago to sign fewer free agents that we lose for less money than we lost. Unless Poles is going to trade for every roster addition (I mean he's done good so far) it seems unlikely we'll be getting any comp picks next year.

[UOK]

We need to make sure that he fully fills the role of Lewis by playing 4 snaps a game and getting penalized for each one.

[Moriarty]

Doesn't Count against Compensatory Formula

What do we need to happen for us to get a comp pick for Keenan Allen?

1) We need fewer incoming qualifying players than outgoing

2) We need incoming to be lower level than outgoing, otherwise you get a crappy low comp instead of the high one


Jackson & Thuney were trades, so don't count against us
Smythe was cut, so he won't count


One catch for Keenan is he said he only had 2 teams he wanted to play for (and 1 was the Bears).
If he really means it, he could drive his leverage & price way down or even retire

[Rakshir]

We need to make sure that he fully fills the role of Lewis by playing 4 snaps a game and getting penalized for each one.

That's the amazing low bar we're accustomed to.

[UOK]

We need to make sure that he fully fills the role of Lewis by playing 4 snaps a game and getting penalized for each one.

That's the amazing low bar we're accustomed to.

That and the Bears have been big on bringing in "culture" guys who do fuckall, get hurt, and play poorly. Hopefully this guy isn't one of those.

Also Durham Smythe sounds like a ludicrous villain name for a southern corporate lawyers office that's looking to nefariously steal land from honest ranchers.

[RichH55]

Doesn't Count against Compensatory Formula

What do we need to happen for us to get a comp pick for Keenan Allen?

Keenan Allen will max out as a 5th Rounder no matter how high he gets paid......Basically for Vets (I think its 10 years?)
"Players who have ten or more accrued seasons may only yield a maximum of a 5th round compensatory pick, even if their actual value would otherwise be assigned higher. See Alan Faneca in 2009, who only awarded Pittsburgh with a 5th round pick instead of a 3rd despite his contract, playing time, and postseason honors. However, App. V, §4 revealed that this rule does not apply to quarterbacks."

Basically it will depend on how many UFA (Cut guys do NOT count) we lose that sign decent contracts (I think the cutoff was like 3 million a Year or so last year?)

So depending on like Tevin Jenkins contract....and if a guy like Shelton or Cowart can get over that threshold - It will determine how many you can sign before you cut into that.

This is super helpful:
https://overthecap.com/the-basics-and-m ... raft-picks

Its a Cancelling out system. So if its only Tevin and Allen that sign "qualifying" FA contracts......You can sign one "qualifying" UFA and that will only cancel out one of the picks.

[grendel2000]

That's the amazing low bar we're accustomed to.

That and the Bears have been big on bringing in "culture" guys who do fuckall, get hurt, and play poorly. Hopefully this guy isn't one of those.

Also Durham Smythe sounds like a ludicrous villain name for a southern corporate lawyers office that's looking to nefariously steal land from honest ranchers.

I was gonna say it sounds like a porn star name but I like your answer better...

[RichH55]

What do we need to happen for us to get a comp pick for Keenan Allen?

1) We need fewer incoming qualifying players than outgoing

2) We need incoming to be lower level than outgoing, otherwise you get a crappy low comp instead of the high one


Jackson & Thuney were trades, so don't count against us
Smythe was cut, so he won't count


One catch for Keenan is he said he only had 2 teams he wanted to play for (and 1 was the Bears).
If he really means it, he could drive his leverage & price way down or even retire

Its a fair note on Allen.....But he's Capped at a 5th Round anyway....So it looks like as long as he gets like 9+ APY he should net that. You just don't get any extra upside if someone gives him 20 for next year.

He wouldn't take a paycut last year so I'd say decent odds he gets at least 10 a year

[wab]

I don't really think you can factor in comp picks when you are trying to improve your team. I don't think it's worth it to be like "well we can't sign this guy because we might not get a comp pick".

But you have to get the signings right.

[malk]

Is he really a TE or a Member of British Parliament House of Lords?

Christ I hope not, the Bears have had enough HR issues, if we start recruiting from the Lords it'll be paedogeddon...

[Moriarty]

I don't really think you can factor in comp picks when you are trying to improve your team. I don't think it's worth it to be like "well we can't sign this guy because we might not get a comp pick".

But you have to get the signings right.

There's certainly plenty of times when it's not important enough to be a factor or greatly outweighed by other factors.

I would very strenuously argue against saying it's never something that should influence your decisions, though.

[Z Bear]

This board's obsession with comp picks is hilarious.

1) Very rarely do they hand out 3rd round comp picks anymore
2) Day 3 picks rarely turn into starters
3) Hey...let's not sign a free agent we beleive we can start just so we get an extra Day 3 pick makes absoultely no sense at all.

I will take a proven NFL vet over a Day 3 pick any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

[Moriarty]

3) Hey...let's not sign a free agent we beleive we can start just so we get an extra Day 3 pick makes absoultely no sense at all.

Well, that's not the argument anyone's making anywhere, but aside from that...

[Z Bear]

You literally just rebutted a post essentially saying the same thing.

[wab]

I don't really think you can factor in comp picks when you are trying to improve your team. I don't think it's worth it to be like "well we can't sign this guy because we might not get a comp pick".

But you have to get the signings right.

There's certainly plenty of times when it's not important enough to be a factor or greatly outweighed by other factors.

I would very strenuously argue against saying it's never something that should influence your decisions, though.

I don't think I implied that it should never be considered. But in general it's the last thing that should be.