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Grizzled wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 11:52 am Read the Steelers have made Rodgers an offer. Cousins to the Browns is being bandied about also as is Russell Wilson to the Giants. If these 3 teams bring in geriatric QBs, they're going to have to draft young blood.
Who needs Rodgers when you've got Rudolph!

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thunderspirit wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 11:19 pm I might offer the Steelers Bagent...for this year's #1.
Let's be realistic here... it would have to be at least this year's and next year's R1!
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Fields gets $40m with $30m guaranteed. Mack gets $7m with $5m guaranteed.

After their rookie season I seem to recall people being higher on Mack than Fields...
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Not sure what one gets paid makes that person better or worse than another. They are both journeymen at this point. Both on their 3rd teams in their short careers. I would not want either as my starter.
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Otis Day wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 3:24 pm Not sure what one gets paid makes that person better or worse than another. They are both journeymen at this point. Both on their 3rd teams in their short careers. I would not want either as my starter.
Pay certainly doesn't make a person better or worse than another. It's an interesting reflection of their perceived value as players though, especially given that they were both drafted in R1 in the same year and only 4 picks apart.
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I just do not understand why some of these teams are holding out for A A Ron. Do they not read the paper? Do they not see this dude is a quack and is definitely a "me" player? His skills have diminished. These teams to get a young guy and begin the process of starting over. A A Ron will not bring them a ring. It is sickening.
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Otis Day wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 8:49 am I just do not understand why some of these teams are holding out for A A Ron. Do they not read the paper? Do they not see this dude is a quack and is definitely a "me" player? His skills have diminished. These teams to get a young guy and begin the process of starting over. A A Ron will not bring them a ring. It is sickening.
He's a cancer.

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Cam Heyward on potential addition of Aaron Rodgers: 'Either you want to be a Pittsburgh Steeler or you don't'

Pittsburgh Steelers All-Pro defensive tackle Cam Heyward is tired of waiting to find out who will quarterback his club in 2025.

During the latest episode of the Not Just Football with Cam Heyward podcast, the star said he's "tired of talking about the quarterback situation."

"I'd rather have it done. I don't know what ends up happening," he added. "Ugh, I'm ready to move on from free agency."
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Asked specifically what his pitch would be to Rodgers, Heyward gave an indifferent answer.

"I ain't doing that darkness retreat. I don't need any of that crap," Heyward said, referencing Rodgers' well-publicized retreat before he joined the Jets two years ago. "Either you want to be a Pittsburgh Steeler or you don't. That's simple. That's the pitch. If you want me to recruit, that's the recruiting pitch. Pittsburgh Steelers. If you want to be part of it, so be it. If you don't, no skin off my back."

Heyward added that he would never push a player to make a quick decision. The 35-year-old essentially gave one big metaphorical shrug at the entire situation.

"I will never tell a man what to do or how to do it, but if you want to be part of the group, be part of the group," he said.
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Aaron is washed. That is why GB traded him away when they did. They tired of his me first attitude, weird beliefs, constant passive aggressive words.

Jets found out he wasn't worth his salt and it was better to take a cap hit then to keep him. That says all anyone needs to hear.

P.S. I do hope the Vikes pay him buckets of money to play for them. Bears can end his career just like they did Farve's. Plus cripple a division rival for the next 4+ years.
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I assume those trade enquiries occurred before it became clear the Vikings weren't keeping Darnold. I can see no other reason teams would think the Vikings would contemplate trading away a guy they drafted 10th overall only last year especially when they have no realistic chance of replacing him as a prospect in this year's draft.
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HisRoyalSweetness wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:45 am

I assume those trade enquiries occurred before it became clear the Vikings weren't keeping Darnold. I can see no other reason teams would think the Vikings would contemplate trading away a guy they drafted 10th overall only last year especially when they have no realistic chance of replacing him as a prospect in this year's draft.
You would think.
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I would also think it speaks to the lack of quality QB prospects in the upcoming draft.
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Shadow wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:29 am Aaron is washed. That is why GB traded him away when they did. They tired of his me first attitude, weird beliefs, constant passive aggressive words.

Jets found out he wasn't worth his salt and it was better to take a cap hit then to keep him. That says all anyone needs to hear.

P.S. I do hope the Vikes pay him buckets of money to play for them. Bears can end his career just like they did Farve's. Plus cripple a division rival for the next 4+ years.
So much for my hopes of the Vikes going down the A A Ron hole....Vikes are out on Rodgers and his entire schtick.
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I'm not certain that you will see Rodgers sign with anyone before the draft. Same probably goes for Russell Wilson.
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So it's down to Pittsburg, the Giants, the Browns, or retirement for Erin. Unless he'd accept a backup role for much less $$, which ain't happening.
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Grizzled wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:59 pm So it's down to Pittsburg, the Giants, the Browns, or retirement for Erin. Unless he'd accept a backup role for much less $$, which ain't happening.
Or, he can skip training camp and wait for an injury. Pretty sure that's what is going to happen here, unless one of those three teams you listed gets really desperate.
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LacertineForest wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:27 pm
Grizzled wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:59 pm So it's down to Pittsburg, the Giants, the Browns, or retirement for Erin. Unless he'd accept a backup role for much less $$, which ain't happening.
Or, he can skip training camp and wait for an injury. Pretty sure that's what is going to happen here, unless one of those three teams you listed gets really desperate.
Pittsburgh really f'd things up. Fields was playing pretty well but they pulled him for Wilson. However, when Wilson cratered at the end of the season, they didn't pull him him and put Fields back in. Even a fair number of players were upset by this. So, of course, why would Fields re-up with the Steelers?
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Grizzled wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:15 pm Pittsburgh really f'd things up. Fields was playing pretty well but they pulled him for Wilson. However, when Wilson cratered at the end of the season, they didn't pull him him and put Fields back in. Even a fair number of players were upset by this. So, of course, why would Fields re-up with the Steelers?
Yeah, it's really hard to fathom Pittsburgh's strategy. They're a perennial playoff contender and Tomlin's famously never had a losing season yet they've left themselves without a starting QB and the music's wound down.
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HisRoyalSweetness wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:58 pm
Grizzled wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:15 pm Pittsburgh really f'd things up. Fields was playing pretty well but they pulled him for Wilson. However, when Wilson cratered at the end of the season, they didn't pull him him and put Fields back in. Even a fair number of players were upset by this. So, of course, why would Fields re-up with the Steelers?
Yeah, it's really hard to fathom Pittsburgh's strategy. They're a perennial playoff contender and Tomlin's famously never had a losing season yet they've left themselves without a starting QB and the music's wound down.
I think the shine is wearing off Tomlinson. He just isn't the Wunderkind any more. He was great as a motivator, payers always played hard for him. But, I feel like he is losing his lockerroom now with some of his decisions. Benching Fields for Wilson was the beginning of the end. Now the whole, "I know what I am doing, Trust me" phase is going to wear very thin. They traded away Picket, their first rounder, and brought in two Veterans. Now they have managed to let both of those leave in FA. It is obvious to all they do not have a real plan. If they did have a plan, it was a bad one and there is no plan B. A A Ron is not anyones plan B.
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I have no idea what the Steelers are doing. They have good WRs and an above average OL so maybe they think they can get by with a 2nd round rookie. Will Howard and Jalen Milroe might be options. I wouldn't over-draft Jaxson Dart in R1 though (even though someone probably will). If Sanders slides, do they make a big move up for him?

Or maybe they make a play for Cousins?

They surely don't think bringing back Mason Rudolph (who I loved at one point) is going to do it... right? Do they bring in someone like Trey Lance?

It's not a good place to be in.
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Lance would be an interesting reclamation project, though you have to ask whether Arthur Smith is the right guy to be assigned that project.

And that's before you get to legitimate questions about what, if anything, there is to reclaim.
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Moriarty wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 9:39 am
Otis Day wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 8:49 am I just do not understand why some of these teams are holding out for A A Ron. Do they not read the paper? Do they not see this dude is a quack and is definitely a "me" player? His skills have diminished. These teams to get a young guy and begin the process of starting over. A A Ron will not bring them a ring. It is sickening.
He's a cancer.

But - coaches/GMs who don't feel that they'll be allowed to rebuild and/or search for a QB for 2-3 years get desperate.
And fan bases don't like it when teams tear down also.
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