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I would put a NSFW tag up there, but I'm not even gonna post a link. If you wanna see it you're gonna have to dig it up yourself. I found it while watching the reaction video on funnyordie. ( I only bring it up because, well... I can't sleep now.

Anyway... I'm usually that last to know about these things so I'm surprised I'm the first to mention it. I don't even know why I'm bringing it up. Discuss? I guess?

Worse than 2 girls 1 cup... worse than Pain Olympics even (for sheer volume only as Pain Olympics would still be the worst on this video). What do you guys think?




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This post is directed at those that have already seen it. Please don't go looking for this video and if you do don't blame me for what you see. But then... I couldn't resist looking either.
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I'll give this thing a couple days before I ponder locking it up. This thing is just...wrong on all counts.
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I'll go ahead and not look for it...
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Like I posted elsewhere when the other vid gaba mentioned was brought up - I consider the people in exploitive videos to be victims (definitely under duress), and consider the people who film them to be criminals.
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For "pushing the envelope" vids, I'll stick with Andy Samberg ... I almost blew my beer out my nose when I saw this one...

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pushing the envelope videos?

you mean like the Brazilian fart porn? where naked Brazilian women simply fart in each others faces?

I'm actually not sure which came first - the South Park episode where such a thing was mentioned and THEN people did the actual videos, or if the videos were in place first and South Park merely alluded to them

as for what gaba might be talking about, I'm not sure I want to look it up ... there is some really demented stuff available, some of which I have seen even though it was not by intent
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The video is pretty twisted, but I wouldn't consider anyone featured to be a "victim." Exploited, maybe... but only in the sense that someone is profiting from the video. I just don't think anyone was pressured into doing any of those things. It's not as simple as someone being asked to slurp down a cup of feces. No amount of money or pressure could force people to do the things pictured in this new video. As for the people being criminals for taping this sh*t, many of them are self-filmed. These people really do get some sort of pleasure out of not only the acts, but sharing the acts with people.

It is pretty sick stuff though.
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UrlachersOranjKleats wrote:I'll give this thing a couple days before I ponder locking it up. This thing is just...wrong on all counts.
That's why I didn't post a link. I would never share this video here. I just thought it'd be an interesting conversation.
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Apparently the video is a fake. I don't know how they did it. I don't care why. I just wish I had never seen it.

Ever.

No amount of human curiosity should bring someone to watch that video. It's just...saddening.
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UrlachersOranjKleats wrote:Apparently the video is a fake. I don't know how they did it. I don't care why. I just wish I had never seen it.

Ever.

No amount of human curiosity should bring someone to watch that video. It's just...saddening.
So I went ahead and googled it. I have absolutely no desire to actually watch it, but I had to know what it is...

WHY....WHY....WHY in creation would someone even PRETEND that shit???? Real or fake, it's fucking disturbing. I have no sympathy for the human condition after reading what I just did.
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I'll give this thread until tomorrow before I take it down.

No offense but I really don't want anyone coming across this and using it as a basis to see something that screwed up. I'm not blaming Gaba, I'm blaming the internet for the very nature of this video's existence.
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Really?

Okay, the basis for this post was to discuss this stuff. I'm not encouraging anyone to go look for it, anymore than the posts about p*cker fans f*&king dead deer is encouraging people to go looking for roadkill. I could certainly see your point if I'd posted a link, but I think we're all grown ups here. I've seen FAR more offensive things posted here as news.
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... and just for the record...

How is a subincision (done by an adult to himself for his own pleasure and pictured a few times in the video in question) worse than a circumcision done to an infant for some twisted religious reason? As f*&ked up as it might look, these are things that people actually enjoy. Far worse things are tolerated by people in this country. I am far more offended by the total lack of concern for the deaths in Iraq or the murder of children in our own country that illicits little more reaction that "oh, how sad" while things like this... graphic in nature but still done by an adult to themselves for their own pleasure... create such overwhelming controversy and outrage.

It really does seem to mirror the attitude of this entire f*&ked up country. We can watch our own friends and neighbors die in Iraq or our fellow Americans suffer in poverty, but the most important issue is making sure gay people don't get married. "So what if 4,000 Americans and over 100,000 Iraqis have died... at least Chuck and Larry can't get matching rings."
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Yeah, I don't know that I agree with the thread being locked. We are a discussion board...and it's not like we are condoning this vid. But hey, I'll stand by whatever you decide.
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gaba wrote:... and just for the record...

How is a subincision (done by an adult to himself for his own pleasure and pictured a few times in the video in question) worse than a circumcision done to an infant for some twisted religious reason? As f*&ked up as it might look, these are things that people actually enjoy. Far worse things are tolerated by people in this country. I am far more offended by the total lack of concern for the deaths in Iraq or the murder of children in our own country that illicits little more reaction that "oh, how sad" while things like this... graphic in nature but still done by an adult to themselves for their own pleasure... create such overwhelming controversy and outrage.

It really does seem to mirror the attitude of this entire f*&ked up country. We can watch our own friends and neighbors die in Iraq or our fellow Americans suffer in poverty, but the most important issue is making sure gay people don't get married. "So what if 4,000 Americans and over 100,000 Iraqis have died... at least Chuck and Larry can't get matching rings."
Without turning this into some social, religous, or political commentary....

A) Circumcisions are often done for health reasons, and are not always religious in nature.

B) This video is a choice...it was chosen to be made and you and others choose to watch it. War, suffering, and poverty aren't always choices...at least not by the people who are most impacted.

If a person were to get sick twisted enjoyment out of watching children or soldiers being hurt or killed, or got off on the general suffering of others...then yeah I would reserve the same shock and awe for them that I did for this video.
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A... in some third world countries, maybe. Not here. No one asked if I wanted someone to cut a chunk of my d*ck and I've never gone more than a day or two without access to proper bathing facilities. The reasons that we, as a nation and/or culture, choose circumcision is almost always religious in nature, or at the very least just simple habit derived from the religious tradition. Okay, I don't really remember having that chunk of skin, so it's not like I'm upset about it, but if given a choice, I certainly would not have chosen to have someone cut a hunk of skin of my pecker. In the case of the video in question though... these men chose to cut on their junk.

B... no one is outraged at the VICTIMS of war and poverty. It is those that, either through their action or inaction, create the environment for war, poverty or any type of suffering that deserve the outrage. You're trying to compare the makers of this video to AIDS orphans when you should be comparing them to the war-mongers that make war. However, in this case even that isn't a fair comparison unless Mr. Bush was going to war himself.

C... you seem to misunderstand what you're seeing (if you have indeed seen it). No one in this video is suffering. As sick as it may look to us, they are getting pleasure from it. Whether it is the act itself or the end product of the act, it makes them happy. So why should we be outraged? Because it's f*&king nasty? My wife's C-section was pretty f*&king nasty but the end result was something pretty awesome. Okay, I can't really compare the birth of a child to a subincision. The point is, it's the graphic nature of the act that is disturbing. The end result, whether it be a child or radically altered genitals, is something that makes the act worthwhile to the "victim." Although, I believe many of them enjoy the act of cutting, pulling, stretching and/or burning itself. Some people just dig pain.



Maybe it's just me. I certainly wouldn't say I enjoyed this video. It was shocking and somewhat disturbing, but that doesn't make it wrong. I would react pretty much the same way to a video of Hugh Hefner's wrinkly 80-year-old ass having sex... but that doesn't make it wrong. You know it happens and I for one am happy for him, I just don't want to see it. Gruesome and shocking doesn't make it wrong.
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Fair enough. I'll let it lie, lol I just have horrible things burned into my head from it.
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UrlachersOranjKleats wrote:Fair enough. I'll let it lie, lol I just have horrible things burned into my head from it.
well, I didn't see this, and have no intention of doing so based on this discussion, but I have some things burned into my brain from other things ... a couple of them courtesy of a smartass who did it as a perverted Rickroll, having it titled one thing but having it be something else, and that something else being almost beyond description
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I did show wifey 2girls1cup without proper warning... but she knew Pain Olympics was going to be something nasty. I don't think either of us knew just HOW nasty though. I haven't shown her this one, nor do I intend to. She wouldn't go for it anyway.
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Sigh. I'm not going to watch this video. Zero interest. Pain Olympics? I know from the name I don't want to see that. But I have GOT to google 2girls1cup the next time I'm alone.
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2G1C is really nasty mama. You DON'T want to see it. Pain Olympics cannot be even partially understood by the name. It is the single most disturbing thing I have ever seen. The only thing Spankwire's got on it is volume. It's kind of a compilation of nasty sh*t.

The best thing about all these videos is watching the reaction videos people post on youtube. Some are clearly rehearsed and semi-staged, but you'll occasionally get a person that has NO IDEA what they're about to see. It's quite amusing.
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